ESTONIA 2012 - Ott Lepland - Kuula
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eerik
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Horrible outfit. I do not like her but she has success abroad.Kerli singing in Estonian (the guy with weird blonde haircut on guitar produces Iiris' songs, by the way):
And one patriotic song:
Feels bit out of place but I'm positively surprised.
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Until the ESC rules are changed to make cover versions mandatory and introduce a team of bitching, self-promoting judges who sit next to the stage, then I really don't see how Eurovision is at all like Pop Idol/X-Factor.
Over the course of Eurovision history, it's been quite rare for winners to have written their own songs, but it is getting much more common. Between 1970 and 1999 only 4 winners wrote or co-wrote their songs (ABBA, Brotherhood of Man, Johnny Logan and Toto Cotugno). This century, we've already had seven such winners, including Alexander Rybak who did it under the 50:50 jury system. If the juries had had their way this year, there would have been another in the form of Raphael Gualazzi.
I don't think the identity of the songwriter really matters anyway. Lena would be the archetypal example of an Idol-concept Eurovision entrant, but her two songs were both fantastic and it didn't matter to me one jot that she didn't write them. The songs are far more responsible for Lena's success than her voice alone.
Getting back to Estonia, I totally agree that Ithaka Maria had the better entry. However, I liked Rockefeller Street too and was happy to settle for Getter. I disagree with the Estonian jury's opinion, but I feel that if they had based their choice purely on vocal abilities they would have picked Ithaka.
Until the ESC rules are changed to make cover versions mandatory and introduce a team of bitching, self-promoting judges who sit next to the stage, then I really don't see how Eurovision is at all like Pop Idol/X-Factor.
Over the course of Eurovision history, it's been quite rare for winners to have written their own songs, but it is getting much more common. Between 1970 and 1999 only 4 winners wrote or co-wrote their songs (ABBA, Brotherhood of Man, Johnny Logan and Toto Cotugno). This century, we've already had seven such winners, including Alexander Rybak who did it under the 50:50 jury system. If the juries had had their way this year, there would have been another in the form of Raphael Gualazzi.
I don't think the identity of the songwriter really matters anyway. Lena would be the archetypal example of an Idol-concept Eurovision entrant, but her two songs were both fantastic and it didn't matter to me one jot that she didn't write them. The songs are far more responsible for Lena's success than her voice alone.
Getting back to Estonia, I totally agree that Ithaka Maria had the better entry. However, I liked Rockefeller Street too and was happy to settle for Getter. I disagree with the Estonian jury's opinion, but I feel that if they had based their choice purely on vocal abilities they would have picked Ithaka.
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That Estonian jury totally sucks!
I remember very clearly what said one of the jury members, a singer Chalice (real Jarek Kasar), when he gave points.C: "I gave 10 points to Orelipoiss (Valss), because he is my cousin." I was soooo soooo angry after that! And that's true... Orelipoiss (Jaan Pehk) is Chalice's uncleson. I hope I wrote in right way...anyway that jury don't vote for the song...they vote for their friends or cousins.
I found also now a video, where Chalice repeat that. Gave highest points to his cousin. And seems that also another jury member gave him high points, because of "friend cousin" thing. That's just unbelievable.
Probably they will be in jury also next year
That all makes me really angry... jury should choose of the song not of the person. Or I have got it wrong? That's why sometimes we dont send out the best songs from our NF.
Btw, Orelipoiss got 3rd place. 1 point difference with Outloudz and Getter.
Here is the video. (In Estonian)
http://tv.delfi.ee/en/video/Now8QEPl/
That Estonian jury totally sucks!
I remember very clearly what said one of the jury members, a singer Chalice (real Jarek Kasar), when he gave points.C: "I gave 10 points to Orelipoiss (Valss), because he is my cousin." I was soooo soooo angry after that! And that's true... Orelipoiss (Jaan Pehk) is Chalice's uncleson. I hope I wrote in right way...anyway that jury don't vote for the song...they vote for their friends or cousins.
I found also now a video, where Chalice repeat that. Gave highest points to his cousin. And seems that also another jury member gave him high points, because of "friend cousin" thing. That's just unbelievable.
Probably they will be in jury also next year
That all makes me really angry... jury should choose of the song not of the person. Or I have got it wrong? That's why sometimes we dont send out the best songs from our NF.
Btw, Orelipoiss got 3rd place. 1 point difference with Outloudz and Getter.
Here is the video. (In Estonian)
http://tv.delfi.ee/en/video/Now8QEPl/
eerik
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Estonian jury is awesome!
Even if they are related, the sentence by Chalice was clearly meant as a joke. Other jury members gave high points to Orelipoiss as well.
We won't have the same jury next year. Pre-selection, semi-final and final juries were different, although some members were probably on all three of them.
Estonian jury is awesome!
Even if they are related, the sentence by Chalice was clearly meant as a joke. Other jury members gave high points to Orelipoiss as well.
We won't have the same jury next year. Pre-selection, semi-final and final juries were different, although some members were probably on all three of them.
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Gee, Egyptians are making a film in Tallinn and Cairo and Liis has been cast as female lead. It is called "I am Egyptian" and centers aroud Omar El Ghazaly (played by himself) who lost a close friend during the revolution earlier this year. Directed by Karim Ali Ismail and scheduled for August 2012 release.
Gee, Egyptians are making a film in Tallinn and Cairo and Liis has been cast as female lead. It is called "I am Egyptian" and centers aroud Omar El Ghazaly (played by himself) who lost a close friend during the revolution earlier this year. Directed by Karim Ali Ismail and scheduled for August 2012 release.
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No problem! My ultimate goal is to upload all Eurolaul and Eesti Laul entries to my new youtube channel but I'm missing a lot of stuff, at least in high quality. I'll upload the ones that I currently have in random order and then try to get my hands on the missing recordings.
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Ingrid Lukas signed to Universal Music Baltics and her next album will be released on 10th October.
More from and about her: http://www.ingridlukas.com/musik/index_en.php
Ingrid Lukas signed to Universal Music Baltics and her next album will be released on 10th October.
More from and about her: http://www.ingridlukas.com/musik/index_en.php
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Shirubi Izakuchi has a different style, i liked St. Cabah and still do listen it. I'm waiting for a better song.
I didn't like MID and their song Smile much this year. But i hope for better one too.
I don't know anything about other two. Let's wait.
Shirubi Izakuchi has a different style, i liked St. Cabah and still do listen it. I'm waiting for a better song.
I didn't like MID and their song Smile much this year. But i hope for better one too.
I don't know anything about other two. Let's wait.