anto475
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She's worth over half a billion USD, how much more money does she need???
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She's worth over half a billion USD, how much more money does she need???
anto475
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That is raw greed!! There's no way she's going to be able to spend all that money in her lifetime, it's a disgusting way to live your life!
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For all of you who keep saying again & again that Eurovision has 200 million viewers,
do you know how EBU counts the viewers ?
Viewers of SM1 + Viewers of SM2 + Viewers of GF.
So, for EBU I am 3 persons.
The amount of people who watch at least 1 minute Eurovision each year, is approximately 60 millions.
This is not even the 1/5 of the population of the countries that broadcast Eurovision.
Nobody really cares, despite the fact that EBU is trying to show us the opposite.
But you are assuming that everybody watches the 3 shows! A huge majority of people just watch the final, and then many less watch the SF where their country is performing, and then even less people watch the three shows. For example, here in France semis are broadcasted only since maybe 2015 on a channel with poor wieving figures and a lot of people even don't know that there are semis (I just looked an online article, 500 000 viewers for the semis, 4.7 billions for the GF in 2017).
It is not like that. When you become succesful you know you deserve a big fee for reward because you are among the best. If you accept lower money is like accepting that you are not that good. People when become very succesful in every kind of profession will get a lot money as reward and won't accept to work for less!
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Madonna in Tel Aviv? I have nothing against Madonna. I belong to the generation that still remember Madonna's "Like a Virgin" video... I loved her True Blue album. Like a Prayer is my all time favourite of Madonna. It's quite an achievement what she has done in her music carreer - keeping herself and her music relevant for decades!! All kudos to Madonna!
BUT - I still dont feel it's relevant to put Madonna as one of the interval acts in Tel Aviv. I found it utterly silly that Justin Timberlake was brough to Europe for his act, and I feel the same way about flying in Madonna. I am sure Israel has many artists to choose from. Bringing big names in for interval acts just takes the focus away from the actual competing artists. It's actually quite unfair to them.
If they wanted to bring in some forreign superstar they should at least be a bit more relevant to the Eurovision and it's history.
I would NOT mind seing Celine Dion on the ESC stage again.
BUT - I still dont feel it's relevant to put Madonna as one of the interval acts in Tel Aviv. I found it utterly silly that Justin Timberlake was brough to Europe for his act, and I feel the same way about flying in Madonna. I am sure Israel has many artists to choose from. Bringing big names in for interval acts just takes the focus away from the actual competing artists. It's actually quite unfair to them.
If they wanted to bring in some forreign superstar they should at least be a bit more relevant to the Eurovision and it's history.
I would NOT mind seing Celine Dion on the ESC stage again.
anto475
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It is absolutely not like that! When you become rich enough and successful enough you should be aware that your worth is not tied to your income. Plus you should be gracious enough and have enough common sense not to be charging stupid amounts of money. It's called having a heart and being human. She is worth an insane amount of money, charging a million for a concert is greed, plain and simple. If she had a heart at all she would donate half of her wealth, not that it would make a bit of difference to her lifestyle already.
Thats not how capitalism works! The more succesful you become the more money you get and since there is no limit to success then there is no limit to money you you can make. As for donations and charity many famous and rich people do, is usually to improve their public image so they can make even more money! Most of famous people (footballers, singers, actors etc) use several dark ways to avoid paying taxes for their huge incomes when at the same time they donate money to charity.
anto475
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Yes, exactly! And so if Madonna, or any of these super rich people, had any ethics or morals at all, they would do their best to get rid of this rotten system that encourages hoarding and greed rather than helping one another. Anyway I recognise that we are going off course for this forum, apologies.
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You do realize that Madonna does a lot for charity, from building schools for girls and orphanages in Malawi through her own charity Raising Malawi to donating millions to AIDS research, ever since the 80s. The fact she doesn't brag about it doesn't mean she doesn't do it. A quick google search would have given you all that info though.
A performer getting paid for a show is business like any other. It would be like saying that because Apple or Samsung are already huge, rich companies, so they shouldn't be charging money for their phones anymore 
Besides, a professional music career is a demanding job (it was brought up when Avicii died for example, how exhausting his career was for him).
Besides, a professional music career is a demanding job (it was brought up when Avicii died for example, how exhausting his career was for him).
anto475
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A performer getting paid for a show is business like any other. It would be like saying that because Apple or Samsung are already huge, rich companies, so they shouldn't be charging money for their phones anymore
They shouldn't be charging huge money for their phones! And it's demanding, but so is being a doctor or a dedicated teacher or a carer, yet those people don't get half of what popstars make.
She gives pennies compared to what she's worth. She could really really afford give so much more and her life wouldn't change a bit.
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Didn't know you were her accountant and had detailed insight in her charity donations. My bad.
It stems from much deeper aspects of society though, like a superstar will make that much money because of the celebrity/idol culture which unfortunately doesn't affect other professions the same way. Or for that matter the phone prices are ridiculously expensive for similar reasons, because some people are willing to pay that much for a status symbol/the brand image. I mean, my phone is a Galaxy J3 that just cost slightly over 100€ and it's perfectly fine for me lol.
For some people their status symbol is important so they can buy expensive phone. I don't see any problem with it. You cannot judge how people spend their money and you cannot force them to do charity just because they are rich! Money is the key for personal happiness most of all!
And back ontopic i read that Madonna will perform one new and one old song. My favorite of her songs songs is ''Like a prayer''.
And back ontopic i read that Madonna will perform one new and one old song. My favorite of her songs songs is ''Like a prayer''.
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Her back catalogue is as impressive as it is huge, so it's hard to guess what it will be. I'm thinking either Music or Hung Up (ABBA + Madonna @ Eurovision will make the crowd go wild), but I guess it will also depend on what song will fit best with the new song, and she's known for throwing in a different arrangement of an old song to make it cohesive.