ESC 2018 General Discussion Thread

[Alaska49]

bosnia is 9th because they did pretty well between 2009 and 2012 and non-participations don't bring their average placement down. same reason turkey stayed high. i also don't think countries with five years or less of participation shouldn't be included because that's not a lot to work with.

 

[mauve]

Interesting video.

It is! Never thought that for example Romania would be among the best 10. Loved that Italy is second. They keep sending wonderful entries!

 

[Preuss]

In fact, there are many results this year that is really weird both in the final and in the semi, no "röd tråd" as we say in Swedish, you can´t see any kind of patterns at all between the split results in the semis and the final.

I mean, I could probably somehow see/understand if Australia was like 20-15 with the televote, but last... LAST??

 

[Preuss]

I miss Turkey...
I miss Greece sending songs I like
Ukraine's declined for me the two last years...

and with the declination of those countries, luckily Bulgaria and Belgium have stepped up their games the last years

 

[Citelis]

We miss good old Eurovision days in Greece too!

 

[lolita]

I miss Turkey...
I miss Greece sending songs I like
Ukraine's declined for me the two last years...

and with the declination of those countries, luckily Bulgaria and Belgium have stepped up their games the last years

I agree with every word of your post, it is exactly what I think!

 

[lolita]

We miss good old Eurovision days in Greece too!

In the past decade, from 2003, when I started to watch ESC, was my favorite country at the contest. I want these days back. You were always in top 10 then, and it was completely deserved. I don't like entries from 2010 untill now, only Yianna is exception, that song I adore. I am still sad she hasn't qualified, such a quality entry, but unluckily staging messed things up, and that semi was too strong.

 

[joancamo]

Fake qualifiers from semi 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlcxeVjct_E

 

[musicfan]

i won't begrudge sweden as #1 because only truly dislike two of their last ten entries and they were in years melfest was good and i just didn't like the winner. australia at #3 though? *hairflip*

i love how spain could not place lower than 26th by default since they are big 5 and they still placed only 21st. eurovision capital of incompetence.

I really liked some Spanish entries, such as Edurne and Pastora. I'd put them top of the big 5 in this period and just based on those two efforts alone near the top overall.

 

[Alaska49]

I really liked some Spanish entries, such as Edurne and Pastora. I'd put them top of the big 5 in this period and just based on those two efforts alone near the top overall.

i actually agree and think spain has no shortage of good SONGS. they are just so, soooo bad at staging and promoting, though, it's unbelievable. even pastora who was 10th felt like she could have done better with more effort.

 

[ag89]

I did a bit "what would have happened if..." game and instead of points I did the average scoring for sf1. This system with average scoring is good for eliminating songs that get a few high scores and plenty of bottom scores (the case of Serbia and Bosnia in 2016 - both countries made it into top 10 with televote, but mostly because both countries received high scores from 5-6 countries, but with many other countries they were 14th, 15th, 16th etc.), but it's good for countries that come 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th... with many countries (the case of Switzerland this year and San Marino in 2016 - San Marino would have been 10th with televote back in 2016 if this system was used. Bosnia would have been 11th (compared to 7th with the system used right now).

Jury:
01. Israel 3.90
02. Albania 5.90
03. Bulgaria 6.48
04. Austria 6.62
05. Czech R. 7.14
06. Cyprus 8.19
07. Estonia 8.29
08. Ireland 8.57
09. Switzerland 8.95
10. Belgium 9.43
11. Croatia 9.76
12. Lithuania 10.05
13. Finland 10.76
14. Armenia 11.38
15. Greece 11.81
16. Azerbaijan 12.10
17. Iceland 13.43
18. Belarus 14.33
19. Macedonia 14.76

Televote:
01. Cyprus 3.38
02. Czech R. 4.90
03. Estonia 5.67
04. Israel 5.71
05. Austria 5.86
06. Ireland 6.57
07. Finland 8.29
08. Bulgaria 8.38
09. Lithuania 9.38
10. Greece 9.71
11. Switzerland 10.05
12. Albania 10.33
13. Azerbaijan 10.71
14. Belarus 11.24
15. Belgium 11.95
16. Armenia 12.29
17. Croatia 14.57
18. Macedonia 16.33
19. Iceland 16.52

Overall:
01. Israel 4.81
02. Cyprus 5.79
03. Czech R. 6.02
04. Austria 6.24
05. Estonia 6.98
06. Bulgaria 7.43
07. Ireland 7.57
08. Albania 8.12
09. Switzerland 9.50
10. Finland 9.53
11. Lithuania 9.71
12. Belgium 10.69
13. Greece 10.76
14. Azerbaijan 11.40
15. Armenia 11.84
16. Croatia 12.17
17. Belarus 12.79
18. Iceland 14.97
19. Macedonia 15.55

 

[ag89]

And the same thing for semi final 2.

Jury rank:

01. Sweden 3.60
02. Norway 4.75
03. Australia 5.05
04. The Netherlands 5.05
05. Malta 6.55
06. Latvia 6.95
07. Slovenia 8.20
08. Moldova 8.30
09. Romania 8.45
10. Ukraine 8.70
11. Serbia 9.85
12. Denmark 10.45
13. Poland 11.75
14. Hungary 12.10
15. Georgia 13.30
16. Montenegro 13.30
17. Russia 13.40
18. San Marino 13.60

Televote rank:

01. Denmark 3.50
02. Moldova 4.00
03. Norway 4.60
04. Ukraine 5.60
05. Hungary 6.80
06. Sweden 7.10
07. Australia 7.25
08. Slovenia 7.90
09. Serbia 8.60
10. The Netherlands 8.85
11. Poland 9.70
12. Russia 9.90
13. Latvia 11.60
14. Romania 12.05
15. Georgia 13.00
16. Malta 13.15
17. Montenegro 14.60
18. San Marino 15.15

Overall:

01. Norway 4.68
02. Sweden 5.35
03. Australia 6.15
04. Moldova 6.15
05. The Netherlands 6.95
06. Denmark 6.98
07. Ukraine 7.15
08. Slovenia 8.05
09. Serbia 9.23
10. Latvia 9.28
11. Hungary 9.45
12. Malta 9.85
13. Romania 10.25
14. Poland 10.73
15. Russia 11.65
16. Georgia 13.15
17. Montenegro 13.95
18. San Marino 14.38

 

[Chorizo]

Eurovision: The Movie
https://deadline.com/2018/06/will-ferrell-netflix-eurovision-screen-comedies-in-trouble-adam-sandler-chris-rock-1202412396/

 

[LalehForWD]

Eurovision: The Movie
https://deadline.com/2018/06/will-ferrell-netflix-eurovision-screen-comedies-in-trouble-adam-sandler-chris-rock-1202412396/

Perhaps part of Netflix' Europe venture? Who will play Christer?

 

[lolita]

Eurovision: The Movie
https://deadline.com/2018/06/will-ferrell-netflix-eurovision-screen-comedies-in-trouble-adam-sandler-chris-rock-1202412396/

Hahahahahaha, that's why Will Ferrell was watching rehearsals at this year's Eurovision. I can't believe it! [MENTION=10594]LalehForWD[/MENTION] Christer will be probably portrayed as main villain, if everyone sees him as fandom does.

 

[lolita]

I am only surprised with the 4th place here , about other placements I was sure.

 

[mauve]

I am only surprised with the 4th place here , about other placements I was sure.

Also surprised about the 4th place, but actually also about the 9th place (Moldova 2017). But most of the placements, I do understand.

 

[popavapeur]

What are those conversations with New Zealand ? are we creating a new bloc voting ?

Can't wait to see how this turns out

 

[GRE]

It seems that these countries are interested in taking part in the near future:

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[mauve]

It seems that these countries are interested in taking part in the near future:

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They would definitely enrich the contest.