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That first semi though, a bloodbath

Apart from Italy and France, currently my whole top 10 is in semi 1 and I can't even vote in that semi. I have never seen such unbalanced semi finals.
 

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If :bg: doesnt deliver, we will have a Winner with <500 Points definitely.
 

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Semi 1 is so strong....
 

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The first Semi has with :ch: :al: :is: :ie: :il: and probably :lt: and :mk: lots of save Non-Qualifiers. Not to forget the bad songs from :fi: and :az:
The Second Semi is still the much stronger One.
 

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As far as the semi allocation goes - yeah, SF1 is looking a lot more competitive at the moment despite SF2 having the stronger list of countries. May as well make a bit of an early prediction here before the usual qualification thread pops up:

From SF1, I'm already seeing 12 countries that seem to be likely qualifiers, and even about half of the others should at least stand a good chance, I think. But clearly we can't have like 14 qualifiers, so for now I'll try to cut things down and make some guesses:

SF1 1st Half: :be::bg::cz::ee::il:
SF1 2nd Half: :am::at::cy::fi::gr:

Biggest uncertainties here are perhaps Belgium (might not grab the televoters enough), Armenia (depends on revamp/staging), Bulgaria (likely in but we haven't seen the song yet) and Cyprus/Greece (I'm not sure both of those similar songs can get through the same half). They could be replaced by Azerbaijan (similar situation to the two I've just mentioned), Belarus (probably borderline support), Albania (depending on the revamp) and Switzerland.


SF2 feels a little harder to predict, given that we've got less in the way of competitive songs and more just have a lot of countries with successful records, and I've never been quite as good at analysing that sort of thing. Here, I have the opposite issue to SF1, and I'm struggling to get 10 songs that are more likely in than out. Nonetheless, my guesses for qualifiers from each half would be:

SF2 1st Half: :au::dk::nl::ru::no:
SF2 2nd Half: :se::ua::hu::lv::mt:

For this semi, I'm not too confident about predicting Russia (weak singer, and no song yet), Norway (the opposite situation - good, well-liked singer with an average song), Hungary (could go absolutely anywhere), Latvia (probably high with juries but not televoters) and Malta (possibly amateurish; needs good staging). They could be replaced with Moldova, Serbia, Poland or Slovenia without really surprising me.
 

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The first Semi has with :ch: :al: :is: :ie: :il: and probably :lt: and :mk: lots of save Non-Qualifiers. Not to forget the bad songs from :fi: and :az:
The Second Semi is still the much stronger One.

I don't know if :ch: and :il: are safe NQ but there are more than 10 songs that can qualify and it's sure that a good song will not qualify...
 

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Oh my, I truly love this year. It‘s really a pleasure and even with some songs missing it‘s by far the best ESC since 2012 (2015 was good too). I enjoy most of the different songs and it‘s hard to guess if people will like the dance songs more because simple and catchy or if they go for something outstanding and special (Belgium, Estonia...). I‘m really not sure and it will be very exciting.
 

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Still no clue whos winning. At the Moment its :se: vs :at: vs :ee:
Lets see what :bg: brings.
 

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Austria? No way! It‘s a good song that I like but no winner vibes at all. He won‘t get much points from the juries.
This year is really hard to guess. At the moment, I think the most probable winner is Estonia, but not like a clear winner.
 

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The problem is - I think I wrote that last year - I‘m sure the juries are influenced by the odds. Most won‘t give their points to an artist that is at 24, 25, 26 in the odds. Because the votes are made public most of them will choose „safe songs“. Otherwise they have to justify their descision. „What? Country x why do your twelvies go to country y? It‘s last in the odds but it‘s your neighbour country!“ „Because I really like the song???“ „Not possible. Smells like cheating!“
 
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