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[QwaarJet]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

Actually, it's not that easy considering Parken's age and bad acoustics... it may look easy on paper, but reality is a bit difference.

Age? It's only 20 or so years old. It's still modern. As for the acoustics, well I'm sure there is more that can be done for that since ESC was last there. Besides, there doesn't really seem to be an alternative. Boxen is fine but is too far out of the way and Herning would be even harder than Malmo to host in.

 

[No Name]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

Parken would be my favourite, if they just cut off half the stadium and had a real stage unlike in 2001.

I'm pretty sure they won't pull off a similar stage this time. The past 5 years our DMGP-stages have almost been ESC-worthy, and imo far more advanced and beautiful than the ones in Melodifestivalen. Admittedly, DMGP has a questionable musical quality with only little diversity in the line-ups, but our stages have been the best.

To get a feeling of what might await you in Herning (either as TV-viewers or live-audience) I've picked a song from DMGP 2013 which was held in the arena now bidding to host ESC 2014:

 

[No Name]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

Actually, it's not that easy considering Parken's age and bad acoustics... it may look easy on paper, but reality is a bit difference.

There are ways to work around this issue and DR's got an entire year to work it out. I attended a Muse-concert in Parken myself a few years ago, and the sound was more than fine to me, so it very much depends on the event, it seems. The concert was even reviewed by Gaffa (one of our leading alternative music magazines, usually very critical of the sound in Parken) and they even described the sound and acoustics as phenomenal.

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[A-lister]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

Age? It's only 20 or so years old. It's still modern. As for the acoustics, well I'm sure there is more that can be done for that since ESC was last there. Besides, there doesn't really seem to be an alternative. Boxen is fine but is too far out of the way and Herning would be even harder than Malmo to host in.

Well, 20 years is "kinda" old, and being primarily a stadium and not a modern multi-arena aswell has to be taken into account.

If they can manage with the acoustics amongst other things, then sure go ahead with Parken! I mean I agree that ideally Copenhagen would be the best place, and I would love a big ESC...

I just hope Denmark learned something from 2001, that was the most awful stage and audience plan solution in an ESC since 2000... it literary looked liked a convention center meeting with some random entertainment on stage

 

[A-lister]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

There are ways to work around this issue and DR's got an entire year to work it out. I attended a Muse-concert in Parken myself a few years ago, and the sound was more than fine to me, so it very much depends on the event, it seems.

But the problem with Parken is how it'll sound and look like in a TV production, sure for regular concerts it might be good enough...

 

[Quent91]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

Yeah, I'm sure that about the acoustics, technology has evolved a lot in 12 years so we I'm pretty confident they can do it in Parken and still get a good sound

 

[A-lister]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

Yeah, I'm sure that about the acoustics, technology has evolved a lot in 12 years so we I'm pretty confident they can do it in Parken and still get a good sound

But the problem is that Parken hasn't really evolved, it's still the same stadium...

Maybe someone from Denmark here can confirm if they upgraded or re-built it somehow?

 

[No Name]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

DR officially started the process of finding a city and venue today, and rumor has it that it's been suggested to host the semi-finals in Herning and the final in Copenhagen. No idea if it's actually true.

 

[A-lister]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

DR officially started the process of finding a city and venue today, and rumor has it that it's been suggested to host the semi-finals in Herning and the final in Copenhagen. No idea if it's actually true.

Hmm, that'd be logistically stupid

 

[Matt]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

Anything but Copenhagen is unacceptable. Just think about those poor delegations, press and fans having to travel to a remote city. Malmo at least was easily accessable via train from Copenhagen.

 

[No Name]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

Hmm, that'd be logistically stupid

It'd be a total mess.
Denmark may not be that big as far as travelling within the country goes, but I still prefer the traditional solution with one city/region hosting the event. Hopefully it's just a rumor made out of thin air.

 

[A-lister]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

Anything but Copenhagen is unacceptable. Just think about those poor delegations, press and fans having to travel to a remote city. Malmo at least was easily accessable via train from Copenhagen.

Well, Denmark is hardly a huge country, so it wouldn't take that long traveling...

I think there are two main arguments for choosing Jylland instead that are being discussed in DK:

- The arena is newer and better fit for this purpose
- A political argument to boost Jylland and not just the capital... in Denmark there's always a fight between Själland and Jylland with poor Fyn being stuck in between

 

[No Name]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

Anything but Copenhagen is unacceptable. Just think about those poor delegations, press and fans having to travel to a remote city. Malmo at least was easily accessable via train from Copenhagen.

Actually this situation reminds me a bit of last year where everyone expected ESC 2013 to be hosted in Stockholm.
Aarhus is within reach from Herning though, so if Herning gets chosen, I could easily see Aarhus playing a role in ESC 2014. Aarhus has the hotel-capacity, great nightlife etc. so I'm guessing that Herning's infrastructure and connection to Aarhus would be massively improved.

Living in Aarhus myself, I wouldn't mind an ESC-vibe here, but I dunno...for the good of ESC I guess Copenhagen is the optimal solution for most people.

 

[Matt]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

Actually this situation reminds me a bit of last year where everyone expected ESC 2013 to be hosted in Stockholm.
Aarhus is within reach from Herning though, so if Herning gets chosen, I could easily see Aarhus playing a role in ESC 2014. Aarhus has the hotel-capacity, great nightlife etc. so I'm guessing that Herning's infrastructure and connection to Aarhus would be massively improved.

Living in Aarhus myself, I wouldn't mind an ESC-vibe here, but I dunno...for the good of ESC I guess Copenhagen is the optimal solution for most people.

We also need to take into consideration that Aarhus doesn't have an international airport and imagine getting people from Copenhagen takes four hours or so.

 

[No Name]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

Well, Denmark is hardly a huge country, so it wouldn't take that long traveling...

I think there are two main arguments for choosing Jylland instead that are being discussed in DK:

- The arena is newer and better fit for this purpose
- A political argument to boost Jylland and not just the capital... in Denmark there's always a fight between Själland and Jylland with poor Fyn being stuck in between

Yeah, immediately after Emmelie's fight there was a huge verbal fight going on between the inhabitants of Jylland and Copenhagen (by people from Jylland anyone from Sjælland is automatically referred to as a person from Copenhagen though).

People from Jutland uses the argument that Copenhagen always get all the attention and that people from Copenhagen are just arrogant people being into themselves afraid to acknowledge the fact that Denmark is more than just Copenhagen. People from Copenhagen on the other hand argues that Jutland is only fields and cows and that it would be an embarrassment for Denmark to host it there...neither of them are correct.

I myself was born and raised just outside Copenhagen, but living in Aarhus now I don't really mind that much who's gonna host. Slightly preferring Copenhagen but I could see them working something acceptable in Herning too.

 

[cassio]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

I think Herning would be the biggest revenge over the fans........ no near by airport no train connection to Billund Airport, Bus drive 1 1/2 hour.

No Hotel Room for fans the will have to rent removable Barracks or Camping no tourist attractions within 70 - 100 km.

Herning will make so much money on drunken "Dancing Queens" (I love that expression)

 

[anto475]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

I'm pretty sure they won't pull off a similar stage this time. The past 5 years our DMGP-stages have almost been ESC-worthy, and imo far more advanced and beautiful than the ones in Melodifestivalen. Admittedly, DMGP has a questionable musical quality with only little diversity in the line-ups, but our stages have been the best.

To get a feeling of what might await you in Herning (either as TV-viewers or live-audience) I've picked a song from DMGP 2013 which was held in the arena now bidding to host ESC 2014:

This is what's got me most excited for DR hosting the Eurovision next year. I said it when I saw DMGP this year, you guys always have the best stages, it makes the stages SVT commissions for MelFest look like a cardboard box held up with planks.

It'd be a total mess.
Denmark may not be that big as far as travelling within the country goes, but I still prefer the traditional solution with one city/region hosting the event. Hopefully it's just a rumor made out of thin air.

Wasn't there a similar rumour last year, like Goteborg/Malmo/Stockholm? Total nonsense!

 

[A-lister]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

This is what's got me most excited for DR hosting the Eurovision next year. I said it when I saw DMGP this year, you guys always have the best stages, it makes the stages SVT commissions for MelFest look like a cardboard box held up with planks.

Yeah, the DMGP stages the past years have really been some of the best national selection stages, probably THE best ones (for sure better than MF)... so I agree that makes one excited about hosting...

However, then I'm always reminded by the fact that DR had the ugliest staging in any ESC since 00's in the 2001 contest (even worse than in poorer countries).

I mean it was just so cheap and boring, and the way the public were placed made it look like a convention center meeting (and this came right after Stockholm 2000 that had a small, but in comparison nice stage).

 

[cassio]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

Actually I think that DR is waiting to see what the city of Herning and the City of Copenhagen are willing to pay (give as a gift) for the event...

The size of the ESC in 2014 will only make it possible for Copenhagen to host but I really do hope that Århus one day will build a proper sized Arena .......... Denmark's second largest town and a arena with only 5.000 seats.... I really don't get it ....... next year Denmark is host to European Handball cup.... and were do we put the final in Herning of cause..... man I do envy that brilliant mayor in Herning who came up with the idea of building and arena out in no were.... now all huge concerts and sports events in Jutland are hold in Herning and not in Århus, Aalborg, Vejle or even Odense.

 

[No Name]

Re: ESC 2014 in Denmark - where should we host it?

Yeah, the DMGP stages the past years have really been some of the best national selection stages, probably THE best ones (for sure better than MF)... so I agree that makes one excited about hosting...

However, then I'm always reminded by the fact that DR had the ugliest staging in any ESC since 00's in the 2001 contest (even worse than in poorer countries).

I mean it was just so cheap and boring, and the way the public were placed made it look like a convention center meeting (and this came right after Stockholm 2000 that had a small, but in comparison nice stage).

Yeah, it was awful.
In comparison, take a look at this video of the danish X-factor final 2011 that was also hosted in Parken:

So to draw conclusions from above I believe the key-factors of hosting ESC 2014 in Parken =

have a similar huge stage that gets more in touch with the audience + fixing whatever acoustic problems it might have + use half capacity (or less) for at least the two semi-finals = success!