Creating new contests on the forum

[Hele.]

Well, I would like this idea if that means that if singers are really representing their regions. Because then regions are just here that we give names to juries (players actually) and with all those un famous names can be very confusing for the players. It would be simplier than if we have for example. Croatia 1, Croatia 2, etc.

But I think that here juries will not be overbooked, 1) Because not all people that play FSC and NSC will play this game 2) If someone is unhappy to share jury can take another country to play with alone 3) People in jury can agree to maybe exchange juries from time to time (for example, Lak and I play 2,3 months for another country while daniels is playing for Croatia, then he took another country while some of us 2 plays for Croatia, etc.). This kind of rule doesn't need to exist officially but I believe people are reasonable enough to accept some kind of this agreement internally between them.

 

[Trece]

Well, I would like this idea if that means that if singers are really representing their regions. Because then regions are just here that we give names to juries (players actually) and with all those un famous names can be very confusing for the players. It would be simplier than if we have for example. Croatia 1, Croatia 2, etc.

But I think that here juries will not be overbooked, 1) Because not all people that play FSC and NSC will play this game 2) If someone is unhappy to share jury can take another country to play with alone 3) People in jury can agree to maybe exchange juries from time to time (for example, Lak and I play 2,3 months for another country while daniels is playing for Croatia, then he took another country while some of us 2 plays for Croatia, etc.). This kind of rule doesn't need to exist officially but I believe people are reasonable enough to accept some kind of this agreement internally between them.

xgood

to Hele

 

[daniels1000]

Well, I would like this idea if that means that if singers are really representing their regions. Because then regions are just here that we give names to juries (players actually) and with all those un famous names can be very confusing for the players. It would be simplier than if we have for example. Croatia 1, Croatia 2, etc.

But I think that here juries will not be overbooked, 1) Because not all people that play FSC and NSC will play this game 2) If someone is unhappy to share jury can take another country to play with alone 3) People in jury can agree to maybe exchange juries from time to time (for example, Lak and I play 2,3 months for another country while daniels is playing for Croatia, then he took another country while some of us 2 plays for Croatia, etc.). This kind of rule doesn't need to exist officially but I believe people are reasonable enough to accept some kind of this agreement internally between them.

xyeah xgood

 

[RomanFromRussia]

Imho
But Maybe it would be better if instead of regions we can take little countries (For example: like Vatican with Italian singer) and Dependent territories (For example: Jan Mayen with Norwegian singer)

 

[Stargazer]

I'd love to join a contest like this, if it wasn't for the fact that it seems to be a NSC/FSC part 2. Why do we have to have national juries, where everyone who is from that particular country must group together? It seems like so many of you who play the other contests have it ingrained in your brain that's how a contest should work. Why not make it more like the Big Tournament? Why can't everyone who wants to send a song, just send a song? Who cares if there are three songs from Sweden, five from Croatia, ten from the US (and so on). I could represent Sweden and send my song of choice, and somebody else could represent Sweden too and send their song of choice. I want to be able to pick songs for myself and not have to take other Swedes into consideration (and have their entries win over mine every time to represent Sweden), because there should only be one entry from each country in the final?

Why not just make it like this: Everyone who is a member of the contest send in their song of choice, we vote, there's a winner and we move on to the next round? Simple and fun. And we could spice it up with themed rounds, like a particular year, decade or genre.

 

[daniels1000]

I'd love to join a contest like this, if it wasn't for the fact that it seems to be a NSC/FSC part 2. Why do we have to have national juries, where everyone who is from that particular country must group together? It seems like so many of you who play the other contests have it ingrained in your brain that's how a contest should work. Why not make it more like the Big Tournament? Why can't everyone who wants to send a song, just send a song? Who cares if there are three songs from Sweden, five from Croatia, ten from the US (and so on). I could represent Sweden and send my song of choice, and somebody else could represent Sweden too and send their song of choice. I want to be able to pick songs for myself and not have to take other Swedes into consideration (and have their entries win over mine every time to represent Sweden), because there should only be one entry from each country in the final?

Why not just make it like this: Everyone who is a member of the contest send in their song of choice, we vote, there's a winner and we move on to the next round? Simple and fun. And we could spice it up with themed rounds, like a particular year, decade or genre.

NONO Everyone can join whatever jury they want.So,you are from Sweden,you can be in Nigerian,Australian,Chinese,Croatian,Burundi and whatever jury you want,and also you can be in Swedish one.

 

[No Name]

I'd love to join a contest like this, if it wasn't for the fact that it seems to be a NSC/FSC part 2. Why do we have to have national juries, where everyone who is from that particular country must group together? It seems like so many of you who play the other contests have it ingrained in your brain that's how a contest should work. Why not make it more like the Big Tournament? Why can't everyone who wants to send a song, just send a song? Who cares if there are three songs from Sweden, five from Croatia, ten from the US (and so on). I could represent Sweden and send my song of choice, and somebody else could represent Sweden too and send their song of choice. I want to be able to pick songs for myself and not have to take other Swedes into consideration (and have their entries win over mine every time to represent Sweden), because there should only be one entry from each country in the final?

Why not just make it like this: Everyone who is a member of the contest send in their song of choice, we vote, there's a winner and we move on to the next round? Simple and fun. And we could spice it up with themed rounds, like a particular year, decade or genre.

I suggest you read the NSC-rules properly then, 'cause that's almost exactly how it works out there.
Each member is represented by fictional country and we can send whatever we want every edition regardless of nationality of the artist.

 

[LakZaNokte]

here are my thoughts on all this:
1. some sort of regions/whatever must exist.
if we go with regions, they should be determined somehow. even the smallest countries can be divided into at least 10 regions. no need for that. 4 or 5 regions is enough for every1. like I already mentioned, try thinking about your own country and u'll see how many u really do need. not every part of any country has music industry (it usually develops in big cities etc). countries that will have regions (and that will happen when u have more than 1 person for a country) will automaticly correct themselves. for example, if a complete stranger shows up and joins UK jury, he can't take some singer from London and claim that it's Scotland entry cause others in that jury will know that it's not. in short, less work for mods cause they don't have to check every single entry.
if we use something else (UK 1, UK 2 etc) the result will be the same except every player will have to send a proof of origin when entering a song (suggesting this cause it would help the mods, and they will need help cause number of players could increase in time).
-please note that some sort of limits must exist with jury system cause otherwise we could end up with 20 USA regions and entries (I am mentioning USA cause they could be the biggest problem here).

2. after some brainstorming, I suggest removing rule 3 from regions. for those who don't know, it says that in one month, we can have UK and Scotland competing together. imo, that's very bad. why would any1 bother about UK NF if he can send any other song as well? pointless.

3. yes, all this might end up very similar to NSC. NSC is currently trying to resolve it's big problem with waiting list. obviously, interest for individual playing is there so it is reasonable to have one more contest that would offer something like that. with 2 individual playing contest, waiting lists could become history.

 

[Steffan]

I am against regions if we have to send artist from them while there is only 1 person per region...

 

[LakZaNokte]

I suggested previously that each month every player sends a song from any country (like nsc) but victories count to countries, not players (like fsc)
tbh, something like that would be very simple and understandable for every1. no arguing, no more discussions....

 

[Trece]

I am against regions if we have to send artist from them while there is only 1 person per region...

I did not understand. What you mean?

I'd love to join a contest like this, if it wasn't for the fact that it seems to be a NSC/FSC part 2. Why do we have to have national juries, where everyone who is from that particular country must group together? It seems like so many of you who play the other contests have it ingrained in your brain that's how a contest should work. Why not make it more like the Big Tournament? Why can't everyone who wants to send a song, just send a song? Who cares if there are three songs from Sweden, five from Croatia, ten from the US (and so on). I could represent Sweden and send my song of choice, and somebody else could represent Sweden too and send their song of choice. I want to be able to pick songs for myself and not have to take other Swedes into consideration (and have their entries win over mine every time to represent Sweden), because there should only be one entry from each country in the final?

If we have a regions' rule , the competition can have in the same time 1,2,3... songs from Sweden
For example:
In the Swedish jury there are 5 members: Trece, Lak, Daniels, Hele and Stargazer
Trece wants to send Swedish song separately and chose region Stockholm

Stargazer wants to send Swedish song separately too, so chose region Uppsala

Hele wants too and chose Västernorrland

but Daniels and Lak don't want, so they left in Swedish jury and send song from Sweden

So we have 4 Swedish songs in contest in the same time: Song from Sweden-Stockholm, song from Sweden-Uppsala, song from Sweden-Västernorrland and song from Sweden

 

[AdelAdel]

So we have 4 Swedish songs in contest in the same time: Song from Sweden-Stockholm, song from Sweden-Uppsala, song from Sweden-Västernorrland and song from Sweden

This sucks.

 

[Trece]

This sucks.

This is just an example. I'm sure this will not happen.

At least we can try. If something does not work, then change the rules. We can not say that it was "great" or "this sucks" is not checked.

 

[AdelAdel]

This is just an example. I'm sure this will not happen.

At least we can try. If something does not work, then change the rules. We can not say that it was "great" or "this sucks" is not checked.

Too much of a hassle - searching for artists from one particular region, and even if that's implemented, then on what basis a full country should compete alongside them?

 

[Trece]

Too much of a hassle - searching for artists from one particular region, and even if that's implemented, then on what basis a full country should compete alongside them?

why not? For example at the Olympics in one discipline can compete few athletes from one country. Only the names of athletes there out, but here is the name of the region.

 

[AdelAdel]

why not? For example at the Olympics in one discipline can compete few athletes from one country. Only the names of athletes there out, but here is the name of the region.

But should a song contest be like the Olympics?

 

[Trece]

But should a song contest be like the Olympics?

why not? In any case we can try it and see how it would work. Why just say categorical "no"

 

[Stargazer]

But let's say I choose to be the jury if... I don't know.. Faroese Islands or whatever. Would I have to send only Faroese songs or could I send Swedish songs? And would you be able to send songs from different countries? Like one round I'll send a Swedish song and the next round I'll send a Finnish song?

All I want to do is:
Be able to send songs from whatever decade.
Be able to send songs of my own choosing.
Be my own jury group with me as the only member.

 

[Trece]

But let's say I choose to be the jury if... I don't know.. Faroese Islands or whatever. Would I have to send only Faroese songs or could I send Swedish songs? And would you be able to send songs from different countries? Like one round I'll send a Swedish song and the next round I'll send a Finnish song?

Yes, only Faroese. But you can choose the region of Sweden and send Swedish song. You must be in the Swedish jury at least 3 moths, and then you can change the jury (for example Finnish) but you can change the region (of one country) every month

Be able to send songs from whatever decade.

Fixed. You can choose ANY song (1960 or 1985 or 2006 year)

Be my own jury group with me as the only member.

If the regions' rule will be fixed, you will can

vvvvvvv You will can vvvvvvv

Be able to send songs of my own choosing

 

[daniels1000]

But let's say I choose to be the jury if... I don't know.. Faroese Islands or whatever. Would I have to send only Faroese songs or could I send Swedish songs? And would you be able to send songs from different countries? Like one round I'll send a Swedish song and the next round I'll send a Finnish song?

All I want to do is:
Be able to send songs from whatever decade.
Be able to send songs of my own choosing.
Be my own jury group with me as the only member.

If you are in jury of Faroese Islands you must send song from there.

But you can switch juries every three months,so you can send songs from other countries.

You can send whatever song you want.
You can choose your song on your own only if you're the only one in the jury(but we will maybe have one person jury )