CHINA 2016 - not taking part
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Sabiondo
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I see a "China 2016 - not taking part thread" and I all I can think is "duuuuuh" 
I've been out of touch for a while though so is this/has this ever been an actual possibility?
took part, I get it, but most Australians have European ancestry...::na is like a whole different thing. I'd be up for Wordlvision but I think it's time to start setting some boundaries for the ESC. Let's have two contests - double the fun 
I've been out of touch for a while though so is this/has this ever been an actual possibility?
took part, I get it, but most Australians have European ancestry...::na is like a whole different thing. I'd be up for Wordlvision but I think it's time to start setting some boundaries for the ESC. Let's have two contests - double the fun 
Okay so China Hunan TV is the first non-participating broadcaster that will show Eurovision 2016:
Now we have to wait and see if any other non-participating broadcasters will show Eurovision 2016 all eyes on Canada and New Zealand.
Now we have to wait and see if any other non-participating broadcasters will show Eurovision 2016 all eyes on Canada and New Zealand.
Who knows? The EBU could do like Australia last year: announce their participation way after the other participants to make it a "surprise". Australia competes in the semis while China gets the prequalified status Aussies had last year.
Personally I don't think that will happen because China first wants a guest performance then to participate, However currently Hunan TV is busy with other projects so Eurovision is not on the main objective. Also they will probably get blocked by other broadcasters before they can even think of participating.
It may not happen now but if Jon Ola Sand doesn't change his mind about the "truly global event" he was talking about a few days ago, I would find it difficult to reject China if further expansion is planned. Chinese people can be persuasive ($$$
) and relentless.As it shows in the link you posted, they're already anticipating ways of being introduced to the contest by showing interest, so I wouldn't be surprised to gradually see them in the contest in the years to come.
I would add that if their viewing rates are increasing, I guess the EBU would consider it as it's a big potential market there.
Yeah interest is pretty low in China I mean if you go to their website the numbers are disappointing they only have just one video (about Eurovision) with over 100.000 views:It may not happen now but if Jon Ola Sand doesn't change his mind about the "truly global event" he was talking about a few days ago, I would find it difficult to reject China if further expansion is planned. Chinese people can be persuasive ($$$
As it shows in the link you posted, they're already anticipating ways of being introduced to the contest by showing interest, so I wouldn't be surprised to gradually see them in the contest in the years to come.
I would add that if their viewing rates are increasing, I guess the EBU would consider it as it's a big potential market there.
And most of the videos about Eurovision have less than 10.000 views. So like I said Eurovision is not their number one priority so it won't happen in 2016 because interest is pretty low and without interest it will probably never happen.
And about money if the EBU were really that greedy they would have allowed Kazakhstan (a very wealthy country) years ago instead they have been in the waiting room for years with no end in sight (deservedly). While SBS (a relatively poor broadcaster) has managed thanks to interest to squeeze through the cracks and managed to impress everybody so much that they were invited back (the decision to bring them back was unanimous).
I see where you're going
and you probably know my opinion about Australia. As you said, Chinese viewing rates aren't quite there, but Canada and New Zealand don't have high ones either to my knowledge, so I'm just wondering what will happen next. For Worldvision to happen - if that's what the EBU wants - they'll have to accept countries whose population doesn't have that much interest in the contest (yet), it won't advertise itself outside groups of fans.But with Australia's inclusion in the Eurovision family, I can't see why they would reject requests from broadcasters that want to take part, since the EBU overlooked its own considerations and criteria. That's where I cease to understand their logic: if one wants a global event, then accept as many countries as you can. Or maybe the world is limited to Anglo-Saxon culture, which may explain the situation of Kazakhstan.
Or maybe I'm overthinking it and Australia will be the last country ever to debut.
It can be as simple as that.
From the Hunan TV website it shows that around 200.000 watched the contest. Which for China second biggest channel is relatively poor.
Sammy
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Would the average European listener be at least interested in an australian pop song? rather yes
Would the average European be at least be interested in a chinese pop song? rather not. (or have you EVER even heard the name of a chinese pop singer?)
plus: chinese viewers also seem to be quite unimpressed by the esc.
does this answer your question?
GWTW1939
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So basically because Australia is English friendly their in and that's it. I thought it was suppose to be about different cultures (of Europe!) coming together and sharing not the Anglo Song contest Apparently being different and acceptance only extends to a certain point
The whole Australia is close to European values therefore its okay for them to be in is a shit excuse anyway. Its not the European values contest The truth, no matter what some fanboys say, is Australia are in because their Western friendly and are willing to follow the current agenda set by Saand and the EBU. Not because they share values similar to Europe or that they have a big ESC following.
Apparently being different and acceptance only extends to a certain point The whole Australia is close to European values therefore its okay for them to be in is a shit excuse anyway. Its not the European values contest
The truth, no matter what some fanboys say, is Australia are in because their Western friendly and are willing to follow the current agenda set by Saand and the EBU. Not because they share values similar to Europe or that they have a big ESC following.
AuroraBorealis
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And for a country of 1.357 billion.. that's only a 0.014% share. I don't think there is much interest in Eurovision for China unfortunately
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Would the average European listener be at least interested in an australian pop song? rather yes
Would the average European be at least be interested in a chinese pop song? rather not. (or have you EVER even heard the name of a chinese pop singer?)
plus: chinese viewers also seem to be quite unimpressed by the esc.
does this answer your question?
Thank you for bothering to answer but I was actually not serious
Sammy
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