ORF responsible Böhm disapproves of withdrawing.....
Shouldn't you be excited? Withdrawal would suck!
AUSTRIA 2012 - Trackshittaz - Woki mit deim Popo
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Shouldn't you be excited? Withdrawal would suck!
I really don't get why this song didn't make it to the final... It was fresh, crazy and just funny and the people in the hall loved it. I'm sure that the juries kicked it out... And now, there is something like Albania in the final :s
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No it would be a statement. But Austria withdrawing without company would look odd.... maybe the Swiss could join us? There qualification rate is even less than ours.
In the past it make look Austria look like sore losers. I mean they withdraw immediately after their first non qualification for a year. Then came back, failed to disqualify and decided to withdraw again for several years. They qualified in 2011 and didn't do the same this year. So if they withdraw again, it would look really silly.
Withdrawing would be a shame for Austria... You just can't join and quit Eurovision how and when you like and it'd be very shameful to withdraw because they didn't reach the final one year - They should get over it and try to do it better next year.
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So be it. Maybe it would look less silly if Netherlands, Belgium and Switzerland joined us. All of them have a less than 50% chance to qualify, even if 10 out of 18 proceed.
No one cared about Monaco, Andorra, San Marino, even Czech Republic.
btw. JESC also became irrelevant, when it became an exclusive Easternly event.
No one cared about Monaco, Andorra, San Marino, even Czech Republic.
btw. JESC also became irrelevant, when it became an exclusive Easternly event.
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Unless you can bring Germany with you no one would care. All you'd achieve is to stop Austrian fans from voting, force them to find other ways to watch and make ESC less relevant to the public. You also definitely wouldn't qualify for the final if you didn't enter.
I understand you're upset, I am too. Trackshittaz were my favourites and would have also been my favourites last year if they had qualified. The simple fact is that they were never likely to get jury support and their televote support was compromised by Jedward's and the Babushki's fun acts. In semi 2, they would have probably got through. All we can do is accept sometimes the votes don't go our way and move on. Withdrawing does nothing.
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I think it's serious business and justified to evaluate chances before investing money in national selections and bidding for the contest. It's a fact that yesterday 9 countries qualified with a higher than 66.67% chance of qualifying just for the reason of being this particular country.
And sorry, Eurovision is far from being relevant in Austria. It's a minority program and mpst people are not even motivated to vote. I hardly ever took the phone to vote for a song, although i've been watching since 1989, when I was 9 nine years old. It's no wonder, only the yugos get the high scores.
And sorry, Eurovision is far from being relevant in Austria. It's a minority program and mpst people are not even motivated to vote. I hardly ever took the phone to vote for a song, although i've been watching since 1989, when I was 9 nine years old. It's no wonder, only the yugos get the high scores.
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And you think the fact you only enter for a couple of years at a time before withdrawing has no effect on this?
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It's like putting your wet finger in the wind, to check where it comes from. And then you can decide what to do. What's wrong with that? Are we doomed to stay in?
I am afraid we will stay in for another year. Depends on the actual winner this year and revelation of the Semifinal votes maybe.
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I think Austria deserved to qualify, I'm pretty sure the juries HATED this and put it in the bottom, they want that wailing annoying Disney ballad girl from last year back... eew.
Not sure about the televoters, but I believe that it faired better with them than with juries. This so deserve to be in final much more than Jedward atleast.
Not sure about the televoters, but I believe that it faired better with them than with juries. This so deserve to be in final much more than Jedward atleast.
I could totally see a UK 2011. But while I agree with you that it should have qualified, if it actually ended up in the televoters top 5 Austria has all the chances in the world to qualify cause they certainly can have the jury support (which was proven in 2011). The trick is to win both televotes and juries.
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I wouldn't go as far and say you were top. 5 in televote, maybe top. 10... but most definitely juries blocked you from qualifying
Undeservingly so when letting a totally bland and generic song like the Irish one through.Norman7
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rajo, calm down.
in germany was the same thoughts, before Lena rocks europe.
it was like "esc is old, bad, we will never win, only east europe, dam* points giving inside of neighbor countrys....
its important to hold on the esc in austria and finding a new concept to choose the entry.
I remember esc decision in germany 2004 - ARD created a new concept including new sounds of tv program VIVA.
Prominent bands and singers joins esc, the result was Max.
Yesterday it was a great performance and a good party song, but I think it was too much at the side of the grandmothers and europe didnt believe that image of austria, no authenticity...
It reminds my of germany 2009 with dita von teese and oscar sings... good, new, clubbing sound - but too much sex, glamour and more...
in germany was the same thoughts, before Lena rocks europe.
it was like "esc is old, bad, we will never win, only east europe, dam* points giving inside of neighbor countrys....
its important to hold on the esc in austria and finding a new concept to choose the entry.
I remember esc decision in germany 2004 - ARD created a new concept including new sounds of tv program VIVA.
Prominent bands and singers joins esc, the result was Max.
Yesterday it was a great performance and a good party song, but I think it was too much at the side of the grandmothers and europe didnt believe that image of austria, no authenticity...
It reminds my of germany 2009 with dita von teese and oscar sings... good, new, clubbing sound - but too much sex, glamour and more...
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Only difference is that Germany 2009 had ZERO authenticity and ZERO connection to Germany, while in fact Austria's entry this year is authentic (well sort of)...
That's true however I don't think that viewers really care about that "Oh that's so Austrian, I have to vote for that". They just go with what they like.
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That's true, but also I don''t think that Germany's 2009 entry had any appeal either.. but that's just my own opinion.
There's a more youthful current touch with Austria 2012. Frankly I don't even get the resemblance, they're two complete different entries.
That's true, Germany 2009 was horrible which is why it scored really low with the televoters and I agree these two songs are very different.
I can't wait for the Full Semi Final results.
I can't wait for the Full Semi Final results.