Australia AUSTRALIA 2019 - Kate Miller-Heidke - Zero Gravity

[A-lister]

With Australia's position and the Netherlands being squeezed oddly, I am leaning more towards a win for Australia hmm...

 

[Milos-BC]

Israel won last year and the name of the contest remains unchanged.
Also we had cases in the past when the winner country didn't host the contest so it won't be a first.
If an act is worth winning then let them win regardless of where they come from.

Not to mention that, for example, when Conchita won in 2014, nobody said "yeah, let's change the name of the contest". And I think it's obvious that, in that case, she didn't win only because of the song. The same can be said for Mans and even Lordi.


Kate deserves to win totally, she has a full package, and unlike many first-time listeners are impressed with both the vocals, the song, and (of course) the staging itself.


Realistically, she is a winner already simply because of the fact that she is unlike anyone else this year, but I will definitely be disappointed if people choose a cliche song that we can hear on the radio every day instead of this.

 

[grazy2266]

I'm so glad Australia got to the final and the position in the contest is a good one, I'm sure the jury will give decent points tonight to Australia in the jury final,however I think they could struggle a little with the public televote, I get the feeling people at home don't really vote for Australia we saw this last year.

 

[grazy2266]

Not to mention that, for example, when Conchita won in 2014, nobody said "yeah, let's change the name of the contest". And I think it's obvious that, in that case, she didn't win only because of the song. The same can be said for Mans and even Lordi.


Kate deserves to win totally, she has a full package, and unlike many first-time listeners are impressed with both the vocals, the song, and (of course) the staging itself.


Realistically, she is a winner already simply because of the fact that she is unlike anyone else this year, but I will definitely be disappointed if people choose a cliche song that we can hear on the radio every day instead of this.

Yeah I agree with most of what you are saying, I feel the performance and staging does the trick and is totally needed for this song to work, the power of songwriting is not so remarkable but like i said people like the full package and with the current staging it has that and will certainly attract attention as it did the semi finals.

 

[MalagaToledo]

Not to mention that, for example, when Conchita won in 2014, nobody said "yeah, let's change the name of the contest". And I think it's obvious that, in that case, she didn't win only because of the song. The same can be said for Mans and even Lordi.


Kate deserves to win totally, she has a full package, and unlike many first-time listeners are impressed with both the vocals, the song, and (of course) the staging itself.


Realistically, she is a winner already simply because of the fact that she is unlike anyone else this year, but I will definitely be disappointed if people choose a cliche song that we can hear on the radio every day instead of this.

Losmi, don't put conchita in the same line with man's or even lordi. Conchita won both jurry and televote, mans lost televote. Conchita won because of the song and her vocal. Man's won because its Sweden and his staging. Lordi won because at that time they were smth never seen before, new genre and those outfits and masks played crucial role.

Katie's opera song is not for everyone. The staging is what brought her to final. I would never listen to that song after esc. It's not catchy, It doesn't impress u on first. Nevertheless, she got the best position so like always top 10 or 15 is expected for AUS.

 

[Vektor]

Not to mention that, for example, when Conchita won in 2014, nobody said "yeah, let's change the name of the contest". And I think it's obvious that, in that case, she didn't win only because of the song. The same can be said for Mans and even Lordi.


Kate deserves to win totally, she has a full package, and unlike many first-time listeners are impressed with both the vocals, the song, and (of course) the staging itself.


Realistically, she is a winner already simply because of the fact that she is unlike anyone else this year, but I will definitely be disappointed if people choose a cliche song that we can hear on the radio every day instead of this.

I am sorry, but what? How does she have the "full package", when she clearly doesn't have the song to win an ESC in the 50/50 voting system. I feel like everybody has amnesia and you all forgot how Grande amore wasn't even in the Jury Top5. The jury doesn't like opera, and even among the ESC pop-opera songs, Zero Gravity is basically a joke both lyrically and musically. It doesn't matter how good the staging and the performance is, the jury won't let it win. We are either in another 2015 situation where the opera song wins the televote, but the jury makes sure that a well-liked radio song wins instead, or the Netherland simply wins both the jury and the televote.

 

[LakZaNokte]

Well, my 1st impression on Thursday (never heard the song before) was that it’s a wacky staging with non-existing song.

Every now and then some opera-ish entry shows up and half of the forum goes beserk (not sure why tho) and the song ends up somewhere in top 10.
Most likely this will be the case as well.

Probably it’s because not that many voters are impressed with opera singing and will rather vote for something “easier”.

Also, this song really isn’t good. Actually, I have no idea where is the song in all this.

If I’m wrong, u may as well quote it on saturday night and rub it in my face, I won’t be mad 2, but I stand by my prediction.

 

[Milos-BC]

I am sorry, but what? How does she have the "full package", when she clearly doesn't have the song to win an ESC in the 50/50 voting system. I feel like everybody has amnesia and you all forgot how Grande amore wasn't even in the Jury Top5. The jury doesn't like opera, and even among the ESC pop-opera songs, Zero Gravity is basically a joke both lyrically and musically. It doesn't matter how good the staging and the performance is, the jury won't let it win. We are either in another 2015 situation where the opera song wins the televote, but the jury makes sure that a well-liked radio song wins instead, or the Netherland simply wins both the jury and the televote.

She has a full package because she is awesome vocally, she has a great staging, and the song is dynamic and memorable. Not for everyone, yes, but it stands out. What you wrote here is your opinion, and that's ok, I said mine as well. But it's not a common fact.

Losmi, don't put Conchita in the same line with man's or even lordi. Conchita won both jurry and televote, mans lost televote. Conchita won because of the song and her vocal. Man's won because its Sweden and his staging. Lordi won because at that time they were smth never seen before, new genre and those outfits and masks played crucial role.

Katie's opera song is not for everyone. The staging is what brought her to final. I would never listen to that song after esc. It's not catchy, It doesn't impress u on first. Nevertheless, she got the best position so like always top 10 or 15 is expected for AUS.

The point of that comparison was not to underestimate those victories, I think they were well deserved. But I do remember some comments from back then but I also never saw anyone saying "Let's change the name of the contest". Whereas now, if Kate wins, we have a situation that she would win "because of the show" and the song is "undeniably bad".


It is not. We can't have double-edge standards if we are to have serious discussions. I am not refering to you in this case, though, it's a broader picture.

 

[MalagaToledo]

She has a full package because she is awesome vocally, she has a great staging, and the song is dynamic and memorable. Not for everyone, yes, but it stands out. What you wrote here is your opinion, and that's ok, I said mine as well. But it's not a common fact.





The point of that comparison was not to underestimate those victories, I think they were well deserved. But I do remember some comments from back then but I also never saw anyone saying "Let's change the name of the contest". Whereas now, if Kate wins, we have a situation that she would win "because of the show" and the song is "undeniably bad".


It is not. We can't have double-edge standards if we are to have serious discussions. I am not refering to you in this case, though, it's a broader picture.

Losmi nisi upravu! Zelmerow's victory should have never happened not only because he won only because of jurry, but because that song didn't deserve to win. If we were to grade songs ita, rus, Estonia all had better vocals and songs. Kate won't win. Crucial role that will secure her top 10-15 place is staging, 2nd half and maybe because its aus.

 

[Milos-BC]

Losmi nisi upravu! Zelmerow's victory should have never happened not only because he won only because of jurry, but because that song didn't deserve to win. If we were to grade songs ita, rus, Estonia all had better vocals and songs. Kate won't win. Crucial role that will secure her top 10-15 place is staging, 2nd half and maybe because its aus.

As you can see, this is the kind of discussion I wanted to avoid from the beginning........


2015 was also massively overrated back then in a similar way that (for me) is this year. wasn't even close to winning at the end.


was not my #1 back then ( was ), but his victory was as deserved as Kate's victory will be this year (if it happens).


I apologize to all fans of the song, but to me everything is fake about it and I didn't enjoy his performance yesterday Casual viewers around me don't understand the hype around it at all either. One of them ranked the song at the bottom.


I respect other opinions of course, but I stand by mine.

 

[crashworld]

I seriously applaud the changes the delegation has made to this entry. The performance of the national finals is a huge mess but they managed to transform it to an amazing product in the end by refining the "prototype". I enjoy it, I don't think it will or should win. But a top 3 is very well deserved.

 

[EvNickGR]

The performance is amazing but the song is bad, they did a great jod on staging!

 

[Preuss]

Seeing how odds were the last couple of years before the final, I am confident that this will do top 5 and should perhaps statistically according to the odds do so although it might not be 2nd then something between 3-5 at least
And if this just happen to do bad with televote (which i don’t think it will at this point but anyway) and place outside the top 5 i will seriously be mad

 

[Ana Raquel]

the insult on 2015

 

[Ana Raquel]

and THERE IS NO SONG!!!1 or THE SONG IS TOO POLARIZING!!!!!! doesn't really work here because let's not forget a LOT of people calling Toy "chicken noises where is the song!!!!!!" and, well, it won by a significative margin

and most of the winners this decade have been polarized (netta, salvador, jamala, conchita, azerbaijani duo.......) so let me believe in it!!!!

 

[Gordon_Shumway]

Israel won last year and the name of the contest remains unchanged.

You can hate my opinion as much as you like, but what does Israel have to do with this?

 

[Ana Raquel]

You can hate my opinion as much as you like, but what does Israel have to do with this?

israel is not european. idk if your first comment was about australia not being european (as i know some people who dont want them to win because a european country should win!!!!!)

 

[Gordon_Shumway]

israel is not european.

Can we at least agree that Israel is NEXT to Europe and Australia is on the other side of the planet?
I just don't understand why Australia is invited to participate and all those other countries around the world are not?
Why not have China, Indonesia, Brasil, South Africa? Then we can call it World Vision or something similar.

 

[Milos-BC]

Oh yes and that argument again.........yet another reason why victory would be so epic.


With dedication and passion that has shown towards this contest, they have shown that they belong here 100% . has shown more passion for this competition in 5 years than some countries for 50+ years of active participation.


If that's the best argument against her victory, she's on a good road, no doubt.

 

[FilipFromSweden]

I really really really would love to see Australia win, and this the year's most dynamic and joyfull entry