Australia AUSTRALIA 2016 - Dami Im - Sound Of Silence

[Mii11]

Also, I think that if Dami was 4th in the televotes, it's because people in Europe are still afraid to vote for country that is so far away from Europe. I think many of the Europeans watching the contest don't understand why and what Australia does in the ESC and yet they don't vote for them, even if the song is marvellous.

I think it is actually the opposite.

 

[ParadiseES]

So pleased that this didn't win. I liked the song, but this was more of the same American thing over and over again and we should avoid that colonization in Eurovision at least.

Plus the staging wasn't good (sitting for almost the whole performance wtf) and she wasn't vocally good in the final like she was in the semi.

In the end an authentic song with soul (even if I'm not a fan of it) won over two plastic and soulless entries. That's called justice from heaven.

 

[A-lister]

No it isn't political from all sides. The jury is now less political than it used to be. Australia was pushed so much because they were obviously the best!

Well that's your opinion, I can just say that I disagree. The juries are maybe even more political than voters even... in fact the biggest probably with public vote is blind diaspora voting, not so much more "political" than that...

Well, people disagreed that they were "obviously the best" as you put it... and I'm happy for that... I'm happy that plastic soulless ballad didn't win but taste differs of course.

And Australia has been blatantly pushed by the EBU and it's proven that juries work for EBU agenda, they want to have another rich English speaking western country in the contest... it's so obvious... should I remind you EBU broke their own rules and their own promise with making Australia permanent member?

 

[ParadiseES]

AEurope. I think many of the Europeans watching the contest don't understand why and what Australia does in the ESC and yet they don't vote for them

Maybe because they learnt Geography at school?

 

[Adrian]

Do you live in alternative universe in which Australia is in Europe?

Do you honestly just stalk this page? You seem to comment on absolutely everyones comments?? And to make things worse you constantly shit on people's opinions and think it's fine but when someone says something against your opinion you go on and attack them because they aren't allowed to disagree with you.

I feel like you need to check your priorities because you constantly shitting on a country is getting tired. You need to get over the fact that SVT invited them, get over it and life your life. Stop worrying about things you cannot change xo

 

[Scooby]

Do you live in alternative universe in which Australia is in Europe?

On Eurovision I only care about songs and it's not important is that sung by girl from Australia, or guy from Iceland

 

[A-lister]

So pleased that this didn't win. I liked the song, but this was more of the same American thing over and over again and we should avoid that colonization in Eurovision at least.

Plus the staging wasn't good (sitting for almost the whole performance wtf) and she wasn't vocally good in the final like she was in the semi.

In the end an authentic song with soul (even if I'm not a fan of it) won over two plastic and soulless entries. That's called justice from heaven.

This! Juries pushed for the same tired old soulless Americanized stuff...

Ukraine winning over those two plastic entries was truly a blessing in the end...

 

[Mii11]

Do you honestly just stalk this page? You seem to comment on absolutely everyones comments?? And to make things worse you constantly shit on people's opinions and think it's fine but when someone says something against your opinion you go on and attack them because they aren't allowed to disagree with you.

I feel like you need to check your priorities because you constantly shitting on a country is getting tired. You need to get over the fact that SVT invited them, get over it and life your life. Stop worrying about things you cannot change xo

Well, that's kind of the point of having a forum. Discussing opinions with other people. I just want to develop a discussion. If defending your views is 'shitting on other people's opinions' then yes I do that and probably come across as rude.

I'm not shitting on a country: I don't have anything against Australia. However, the participation of this country is illegal and it's violation of EBU's rules. I'm never gonna approve this. This country doesn't belong in Eurovision and period. If I remain silent then probably I will make no change immediately but by voicing my opinion along with other people I might convince EBU that inviting them was a destructive idea. Maybe they will listen to fans for a change. Maybe they will withdraw them and stop destroying this contest.

 

[lavieenrose]

The large Slavic diaspora voted for their homelands and other Slavic friends.

Let's look at this in two cases.
1) Michał, Sergey, and Jamala didn't only get votes from the diaspora. Then how is it their fault that people in Western Europe liked their songs?
2) Michał, Sergey, and Jamala did only get votes from the diaspora. Then how is it their fault that they were the only ones who actually voted in large enough numbers to push themselves to the top?

 

[0scar]

I didn't want to win either Australia, Russia and Ukraine, which ended up in the top three, but if I had to pick one of them, it would be Australia actually :?.

 

[Adrian]

Well, that's kind of the point of having a forum. Discussing opinions with other people. I just want to develop a discussion. If defending your views is 'shitting on other people's opinions' then yes I do that and probably come across as rude.

I'm not shitting on a country: I don't have anything against Australia. However, the participation of this country is illegal and it's violation of EBU's rules. I'm never gonna approve this. This country doesn't belong in Eurovision and period. If I remain silent then probably I will make no change immediately but by voicing my opinion along with other people I might convince EBU that inviting them was a destructive idea. Maybe they will listen to fans for a change. Maybe they will withdraw them and stop destroying this contest.

You know what, after actually reading back you are right, I apologise. You have every right to comment and discuss your views and opinions.
Okay you're not shitting on a country but as an Australian myself I'm sure you can see why I felt like you were. You bring up a point that I am actually quite interested in and just want some clarification on the matter. You say that Australia's participation is a "violation of EBU's rules." can you show me where in the rules this violation takes place?
And I do agree that being vocal about an issue that you don't agree with is the right thing to do so again, I apologise.

 

[Gabe]

You may be British, but you obviously still favor your "ancestral homeland". And those immigrants don't vote for songs they like, they just vote for their homeland or in your case ancestral homeland no matter how horrible the song may be.

Your ties to one your ancestor's homeland are still visible, which is perfectly fine. But if you let those feeling influence how you vote, it's not very admirable.

No it isn't political from all sides. The jury is now less political than it used to be. Australia was pushed so much because they were obviously the best!

My grandparents are Irish

 

[Gabe]

Why does he have a Russian flag in his avatar then? Doesn't make much sense...

I study Russian in university, and like a Russian football team...

 

[Mii11]

You know what, after actually reading back you are right, I apologise. You have every right to comment and discuss your views and opinions.
Okay you're not shitting on a country but as an Australian myself I'm sure you can see why I felt like you were. You bring up a point that I am actually quite interested in and just want some clarification on the matter. You say that Australia's participation is a "violation of EBU's rules." can you show me where in the rules this violation takes place?
And I do agree that being vocal about an issue that you don't agree with is the right thing to do so again, I apologise.

You don't need to apologise me because you didn't do anything wrong I understand that you are happy that your country participates in the contest and that so far you have achieved great results.

Australia's participation is violation of EBU's rules because only active Members of the EBU have a right to participate in the contest. To become an active Member of the EBU you need to be in European Broadcasting Area and Australia doesn't fulfill the criterion to become an active Memeber. Australia is an associate Member, but associate Members are not allowed to join the contest. You can see it on the following website: http://www.eurovision.tv/page/about/which-countries-can-take-part

The Australian participation, as you are probably aware, was intended to be one-off because of last year's anniversary (that's why Australia didn't participate in semifinals). However, this year we have got no proper explanation why Australia is allowed in. Moreover, EBU refused application of Kazakhstan based on the fact that 'Kazakhstan is outside of the European Broadcasting Area'. Someone asked them why Australia is eligible to participate this is what he/she/they got: https://twitter.com/ebu_hq/status/677802262887026688
This is definitely not a valid reason and there is nothing in the rules stating that once you have been broadcasting Eurovision for 30 years you might take part. The rules haven't been updated as well so for now the fact that Australia is participating is de facto illegal and shows pure hypocrisy of the EBU.

 

[CaspianMortis]

Let's look at this in two cases.
1) Michał, Sergey, and Jamala didn't only get votes from the diaspora. Then how is it their fault that people in Western Europe liked their songs?
2) Michał, Sergey, and Jamala did only get votes from the diaspora. Then how is it their fault that they were the only ones who actually voted in large enough numbers to push themselves to the top?

How about a mix of the two? If the diaspora votes are substracted from the total and only those who voted for the songs because they REALLY liked it remain, Ukraine and Russia would still have ended very high.

And if most votes came from the diaspora, I don't blame the artists at all, I blame the diaspora. That doesn't take away that Russia's song is still annoying and Poland's extremely boring.

I study Russian in university, and like a Russian football team...

I apologize, I didn't know that.

I speak fluently English with an American accent, and admire the USA in many ways, I also know quite a bit about their geography, history and politics.

Would it be ok if I dispayed an American flag above my avatar, even though my nationality is Belgian.

 

[i anixi]

Not one to complain, especially after everything ended up so smoothly anyway. But given that one of the items juries are meant to assess is originality i really would like to know what was original about Australia's entry? It felt staler than St. Stale McStale...
AND she did scream at parts :?

 

[CaspianMortis]

BREAKING NEWS:http://www.escunited.com/home/denmark-juror-points-revealed-incorrectly/

AUSTRALIA GAINS 2 POINTS, UKRAINE LOSES 12

LET'S ALL PRAY FOR DAMI AND HOPE ANOTHER SUCH ERROR GETS REVEALED!

IF THAT HAPPENS WE CAN GO TO SYDNEY 2017! DAMI IM FOR PRESIDENT OF EARTH!

 

[Leydan]

BREAKING NEWS:http://www.escunited.com/home/denmark-juror-points-revealed-incorrectly/

AUSTRALIA GAINS 2 POINTS, UKRAINE LOSES 12

LET'S ALL PRAY FOR DAMI AND HOPE ANOTHER SUCH ERROR GETS REVEALED!

IF THAT HAPPENS WE CAN GO TO SYDNEY 2017! DAMI IM FOR PRESIDENT OF EARTH!

Have they actually been changed though, it doesn't say. :?

 

[CaspianMortis]

Have they actually been changed though, it doesn't say

Yes

Ukraine – 522 points (Loses 12 points)
Australia – 513 (Gains 2 points)

COME ON EUROVISION, JUST 9 POINTS MORE!

 

[i anixi]

BREAKING NEWS:http://www.escunited.com/home/denmark-juror-points-revealed-incorrectly/

AUSTRALIA GAINS 2 POINTS, UKRAINE LOSES 12

LET'S ALL PRAY FOR DAMI AND HOPE ANOTHER SUCH ERROR GETS REVEALED!

IF THAT HAPPENS WE CAN GO TO SYDNEY 2017! DAMI IM FOR PRESIDENT OF EARTH!

Nonsense. If Denmark had actually reached this stage of sloppyness they would do better to keep quiet about it now and think about being extra careful next time, instead of urging to announce it to the world