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    59 26.7%
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    24 10.9%
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    21 9.5%
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    26 11.8%
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    16 7.2%

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CPV4931

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DanielLuis

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Just listened to the song for the first time. It's so strange, but that's what is so good about it. You can never know what comes next.
It's a very original entry from Armenia and the result will come down to the performance. It needs to be very powerful, otherwise most viewers may find it too weird and too hard to get into. But if the presentation is done in the right way it can finish very high in the left side of the scoreboard.
 

Joni

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This is easily my number 1 of the year. Modern but unlike many others in a good and original way with different and fresh ideas, some ethnic stuff mixed there nicely as well, structure of the song is unpredictable. Powerful and mind-blowing. It might not win but it should be at least in the top 5.
 

i anixi

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Wow, This is huge. Who would have thought Armenia and Croatia would hold the two greatest surprises of the season?
 

NikoR

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Live in Moscow... 3 april xyaaayxcheerxyaay

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Brandt

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And then people complain why ex-USSR countries give one another douze points... If there were such promotion events/tours all over Europe, I am sure that many many countries could score higher points.

ex-USSR? :lol: There is no Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Georgia; therefore there are Albania, Spain, Switzerland, Macedonia, Cyprus, Malta and San Marino. And somehow you deduce it with ex-USSR countries?
 

DanielLuis

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And then people complain why ex-USSR countries give one another douze points... If there were such promotion events/tours all over Europe, I am sure that many many countries could score higher points.

There's events like this in the Netherlands (the biggest one), Latvia, the UK, Israel...that really isn't any kind of argument :lol:
 

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ex-USSR? :lol: There is no Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Georgia; therefore there are Albania, Spain, Switzerland, Macedonia, Cyprus, Malta and San Marino. And somehow you deduce it with ex-USSR countries?

Ooops, true, we are talking about Armenia, so they for sure won't go to other Caucasus countries if we take into account their history. On the other hand, Baltic countries have recently switched to the Scandinavian block, so here is why they don't promote their song there. Basically, all the listed countries where Armenia will promote their song are those that are politically less biased/hostile towards Armenia. My argument for deduction is futher elaborated below, so please, continue reading there.

There's events like this in the Netherlands (the biggest one), Latvia, the UK, Israel...that really isn't any kind of argument :lol:

Although you disagree, I think that the list given by LesterMalvo actually corroborates my argument which I must now more carefully put in words. Usually everyone here complains that Russia profits from the block voting - which is actually true. However, in the case of Armenia we have a clear proof why other countries do not profit from this block voting as Russia does. Namely, since Russia maintains good relations with almost all of ex-USSR countries (and in the case of those with which they don't, they can always count on the votes of Russian diaspora), and consistenly in turn "rewards" them with high points (I hope you have noticed that Russia always give high points to almost all ex-USSR countries, but every year to a different country), they secure themselves a good deal points. On the other hand, other ex-USSR countries do have a lot of issues among themselves, (for instance Armenia, Georgia, and Azerbaijan are very unfriendly one to another, while Baltic countries distanced themselves too much from their recent "brothers") which is why they all lose points that Russia so diplomatically manages to get them. Basically, what I am trying to say is that Russia (and until recently also Ukraine, but let us see what happens with Ukraine this year = how the other ex-USSR will react to their new relations to Russia) as a matter of fact because of these internal "disputes" between other ex-USSR countries profits even more from this ex-USSR block voting as it would if other countries were in better relations between themselves.

On the other hand, these pre-ESC conventions of various representatives are basically closed events that gets very little or (in my opinion) mostly no coverage in the mainstream media. If you ask me, these events are more or less for ESC fans and no one else. If you wanna exposure in media, you have to tour, but on this tour, you have to chose wisely where you will "advertise" yourself.

So, Daniel Luis, if you disagree with my line of argments, please, convince with (or at least try to find proof in form of) online articles by mainstream media that cover these events in headlines or at least on their main pages. :)
 

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Ooops, true, we are talking about Armenia, so they for sure won't go to other Caucasus countries if we take into account their history. On the other hand, Baltic countries have recently switched to the Scandinavian block, so here is why they don't promote their song there. Basically, all the listed countries where Armenia will promote their song are those that are politically less biased/hostile towards Armenia. My argument for deduction is futher elaborated below, so please, continue reading there.)

This is completely different topic of an argument. Your propaganda over the concert in Russia is very random and so not relevant.
 

Jukica

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I noticed that I didn't vote here :eek:

Pretty nice and different entry :D this could do well if she'll have a great performance xcheer

10 points
 

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Upgraded from 5 to 7! This is growing on me - I still don't really 'get' it, but it's definitely unique and powerful. I think Armenia's chances this year are going to depend on staging, moreso than any other country - depending on how this is staged and performed live, it could win the whole thing or it could miss out on qualification. I'd peg it as the most unpredictable song this year, results-wise.
 

DanielLuis

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Upgraded from 5 to 7! This is growing on me - I still don't really 'get' it, but it's definitely unique and powerful. I think Armenia's chances this year are going to depend on staging, moreso than any other country - depending on how this is staged and performed live, it could win the whole thing or it could miss out on qualification. I'd peg it as the most unpredictable song this year, results-wise.

Absolutely agree, if the staging is on point, this could be our winner this year. However if the staging is overdone viewers may end up thinkg "what the hell" and it may not even qualify. Can't wait to see how things will go down :D
 

Haverdge

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Upgraded from 5 to 7! This is growing on me - I still don't really 'get' it, but it's definitely unique and powerful. I think Armenia's chances this year are going to depend on staging, moreso than any other country - depending on how this is staged and performed live, it could win the whole thing or it could miss out on qualification. I'd peg it as the most unpredictable song this year, results-wise.

She said in a recent interview that they had staging in mind for the entire song, and that every part of it is designed to go with whatever they have planned for the stage.
 

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I simply love this song.It's very modern but combined with traditional instruments plus Iveta's voice is powerful.I even like how nobody can decipher the lyrics cause the way she sings them is so passionate that there is no need to understand every word.It's my top 3 and with a stellar performance she can achieve a lot.It's actually very underrated on odds.
 

Sammy

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Well to me her way of singing sounds rather as if she was in pain than passionate. And if the lyrics are really of that little importance I would have prefered armenian ones. At least that would have given the song some authenticity. For me its one of the weakest songs this year.
 

kamc

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I think I'll be bringing an Armenian flag to the first semi-final.
Out of all entries this year, I feel this will be the most "visual" one and I expect some impressive staging.
 
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