سوريا - Syria

[goktengri]

Does there really have to be a thread like this for every single country? Come on guys, Syria isn't going to be in the Eurovision

Why ? If they'll apply, they'll be accepted.

 

[Scooby]

@ goktengri

You really become to annoying everyone with your stories about arab countries on ESC!
OK I understand that you support that ideas, but stop convincing others in that!!!!

 

[goktengri]

@ goktengri

You really become to annoying everyone with your stories about arab countries on ESC!
OK I understand that you support that ideas, but stop convincing others in that!!!!

What do you mean ? They have right to participate if some non-europeans can participate in ESC. I don't tell any stories, I'm just trying to support their rights !!

Never talk with me in such tone next time ! If you don't want them in ESC, Why are you still in this thread ?

 

[Israeliboy]

Non-European countries mh...for me it goes like "00's non-European countries" and Israel (In Esc since 1973, before another European countries)

As for Syria, I don't think they can take part in ESC, as long as they put their EGO first and cultrue in other place (Not as Israel, if Syria will take part, we won't have problems to show their performance, as we DO broadcast their channels on our TV)!

 

[goktengri]

Non-European countries mh...for me it goes like "00's non-European countries" and Israel (In Esc since 1973, before another European countries)

As for Syria, I don't think they can take part in ESC, as long as they put their EGO first and cultrue in other place (Not as Israel, if Syria will take part, we won't have problems to show their performance, as we DO broadcast their channels on our TV)!

what's the problem with culture ?

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

Eurovision is supposed to be for European culture, not Islamic/Arabic culture...

 

[Israeliboy]

what's the problem with culture ?

I have no problem with their culture, this is the point. I have a problem with the fact they put their EGO first and their CULTURE second. Means, they prefer not to take part in ESC for political reasons and put their EGO like it's the most important thing to do. This is my point

 

[goktengri]

Eurovision is supposed to be for European culture, not Islamic/Arabic culture...

It's up to Eurovision authorities Remember Morocco

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

It is up to Eurovision authorities but I can tell you that people in the UK and I'd imagine the rest of Westernized Europe dont want Arabic culture in EUROvision. Why cant they have their own contest? Arabiavision?
And yes Morocco did participate but it was found very quickly that having an African/Arabic country in the contest didnt work, hence they only participated once .

 

[goktengri]

It is up to Eurovision authorities but I can tell you that people in the UK and I'd imagine the rest of Westernized Europe dont want Arabic culture in EUROvision. Why cant they have their own contest? Arabiavision?
And yes Morocco did participate but it was found very quickly that having an African/Arabic country in the contest didnt work, hence they only participated once .

I wouldn't like to see Arabian culture in Eurovision personally too, but also i don't want to be against them if they want to participate.

 

[goktengri]

I found a Syrian ESC group. One of my friends invited me, It is not so big but nice to see that there are some ESC lovers in Syria

http://www.facebook.com/pages/OGAE-Syria/100444806700645

 

[Suriye-prensi]

who visit syria - cridle of civilizations - would judge .... !!

 

[Suriye-prensi]

its not big for European fans of OGAE-SYRIA but its big here

 

[AlekS]

I agree with people in 1 thing. If Syrian side values politics more than music in Eurovision Song Contest then they won't be allowed because this is against EBU rules.

If they agree to broadcast ESC in full size without cutting out Israel (or any other country) then I'd love to see them.

ps. I don't think that ESC is a cultural contest. Culture takes a little share there. Austria doesn't send yoddle all the time, nobody sends folk every damn year (thank gawd). We share music, all kinds of music. What culture in general or politics has to do with that? Nothing.

 

[A-lister]

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It's named Eurovision though, not Worldvision or Eurabiavision.

True it's not a folkmusic fest, but it's a music contest to bring Europe together and share our talents (and sometimes culture aswell) and for some this is important to stay that way.

I don't think Eurovision should be used as some sort of political UN arena allowing every single country in, if it wasn't about politics until now, it would most probably be then. There's no use in making a parody out of the contest.

Also, it's about not making it way too big either.

 

[AlekS]

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It's named Eurovision though, not Worldvision or Eurabiavision.

say that to Israel or Morocco

I certainly don't mind Arabian counries within European Broadcasting Area and I'm not gonna making up any excuses. Once they fit all EBU rules they have to enter if they want.

 

[A-lister]

^
say that to Israel or Morocco
Egypt?
I certainly don't mind Arabian counries within European Broadcasting Area and I'm not gonna making up any excuses. Once they fit all EBU rules they have to enter if they want.

Israel is competing as part of Europe not only when it comes to Eurovision, but in other occasions aswell such as world cups etc. and it's really a special case and there are reasons for this. The Arab countries doesn't have these special reasons. Also, they've (Israel) competed since the 70's, so it would be unlogically to throw them out really after all those years. Also this is a discussion for debutants, and I don't see the other as an excuse for including more countries outside Europe that are unattached to it.

As for Morocco, I still don't agree with they entering either, and their Eurovision history became short as we all know and can't be compared with Israel that have a longer history in this contest than many of the other competing ones aswell.

I know the EBU rules very well, but it doesn't mean I have to agree with them though and I want them to change for Eurovision. We will never agree here, some see this as potential Worldvision contest, I will never do that for different reasons.

Let's agree to disagree

 

[AlekS]

^ EBU organizes the contest. Not you.
As for Morocco. You can disagree so much time as you want. It won't change the fact that they have already participated and they can enter again.

Excuse?!!! So EBU rules is an excuse?

some see this as potential Worldvision contest... and what does it have to do with me?
fyi, Syria is not the whole world.

Also I don't care for how long Israel has already competed. It's not the reason
Accept all EBA members (when they meet all criterias) or do not accept anyone. We should be fair.

 

[A-lister]

^ EBU organizes the contest. Not you.
As for Morocco. You can disagree so much time as you want. It won't change the fact that they have already participated and they can enter again.

Ehm? We're here to discuss right? With that logic, we shouldn't even discuss this at all since it would be EBU's decision in the end afterall and we should have no say or any opinion on anything regarding Eurovision or the rules whatsoever. Now what would be a point with a discussion forum then if we have to agree with everything??

I am free to have whatever opinion about this as I want and I don't have to agree with the current rules and I have the right to express so if I want to. Also rules are not set in stone, obviously they can be changed so it's no wrong to have an opinion on them, as a matter of fact it is never wrong and is everyone's right to have opinions on stuff.

Excuse?!!! So EBU rules is an excuse?

Huh? I am not sure if I know what in my comment you are referring to here.

some see this as potential Worldvision contest... and what does it have to do with me?
fyi, Syria is not the whole world.

That's not my point. Today Syria, tomorrow another country. Just accept the fact that some want this to continue being a European contest. You don't have to agree though, but lots of people agree with me on this.

Also I don't care for how long Israel has already competed. It's not the reason
Accept all EBA members or do not accept anyone. We should be fair.

You don't have to care, but I don't see how a country that have competed in the contest for 30 years can be used as an excuse for new countries.

That's your opinion, I beg to differ though. You're entitled to disagree with me offcourse, but I am entitled to have my own opinion on the matter aswell and we are here to discuss this and we don't have to think the same all the time, and as I stated above we could also have opinions about the EBU's rules according this.

 

[Israeliboy]

^^Aleks, you don't have any rights to say something against Israel in ESC. ISRAEL IS IN ESC LONG LONG LONG BEFORE UKRAINE TOOK PART, OK?