سوريا - Syria

[goktengri]

Come on ...If Lebanon who has SOMEHOW better relationship with Israel than Israel-Syria. Do u really think they will show the Israeli singer? Althug, really COME ON ... !!! Even Jordan didn't show the Israeli entries in time they put ESC on their channels, so Syria? What is the difference? .... It makes no sense really, it's 100% they won't broadcast the Israeli performance!!!

We can give a chance for Syria as they deserves it, You shouldn't see as ONE all the arab countries. It doesn't mean if jordan and lebanon did it, syria will do it. Actually it makes non sense.

But the problem is actually you don't want to them in ESC, if they'll broadcast, will you accept them ?

 

[seb89]

But the problem is actually you don't want to them in ESC, if they'll broadcast, will you accept them ?

If so,yes! But I can ensure you they really really won't! I had a Syrian friend and when we first met, he asked if I know Syria and I replied 'yes, it's situated close to Israël' and he went mad!

And yes, it is not a modern country, but yeah there are countries that participate in the contest and that aren't 'modern'. If you know what I mean. So actually that wouldn't be a problem.

WTF about cultural semblances with Europe? Georgia and Armenia were part of the Soviet Union. Mhhhhm yeah as far as I remembered that time was called 'Cold war'. Wasn't it like Soviet Union was againts European and American policies and their culture? And yeah, I really think the Soviet Union was really a part of Europe :?.

And if you reffer to Soviet Union, then you can say: yes, Syria can participate because at the time it was a colony of France and the UK

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

Geographically, Syria I feel is an acceptable distance to participate. However, culturally and politically it is a definite no no.

 

[Israeliboy]

As long as they don't have problem to broadcast the Israeli performance lol I don't have a problem...even if I don't want them, I won't say "I am not ESC fan anymore" lol!!! ...But they won't accept, I know very well THEY WON'T.....Especially a country which is a big friend of IRAN lol!!!

 

[goktengri]

If so,yes! But I can ensure you they really really won't! I had a Syrian friend and when we first met, he asked if I know Syria and I replied 'yes, it's situated close to Israël' and he went mad!

And yes, it is not a modern country, but yeah there are countries that participate in the contest and that aren't 'modern'. If you know what I mean. So actually that wouldn't be a problem.

WTF about cultural semblances with Europe? Georgia and Armenia were part of the Soviet Union. Mhhhhm yeah as far as I remembered that time was called 'Cold war'. Wasn't it like Soviet Union was againts European and American policies and their culture? And yeah, I really think the Soviet Union was really a part of Europe :?.

And if you reffer to Soviet Union, then you can say: yes, Syria can participate because at the time it was a colony of France and the UK

but you can't blame all the Syrian people with only one person :/

I still think Syria is a modern country, you can't know that they'll make a problem or not about israel before participating, so Syria deserves a chance. I don't care about Syrian-Israeli relations in politics.

but i don't know what you meant, what countries you talking about ? I think all the countries are modern in Eurovision.

 

[goktengri]

But they won't accept, I know very well THEY WON'T.....Especially a country which is a big friend of IRAN lol!!!

What friend ? There may be Syria-Iran relations in politics but how do you link it with eurovision ?

 

[Israeliboy]

Althug, I ask you a real question, WHERE DO YOU LIVE? . . . .What will be the next thing you'll say....that Syrian media is not connected to the politics there? Do you have 9 Syrian channels in your tv? I know Syria very well. God, don't try to make them look normal, cause they are not radical!

 

[goktengri]

Althug, I ask you a real question, WHERE DO YOU LIVE? . . . .What will be the next thing you'll say....that Syrian media is not connected to the politics there? Do you have 9 Syrian channels in your tv? I know Syria very well. God, don't try to make them look normal, cause they are not radical!

You can't say they won't broadcast the Israeli show before they participated. I believe that ESC committee will talk about broadcasting rules with Syrian TV if they'll want to participate. So if they say we don't want to broadcast them, they already don't let Syria for participating.

For the rest, I'm not interested with what kind of country is Syria, It's no matter for ESC, but if you want to talk about it, we can keep on this discussing in Politics forum Cause Syria is not only your neighbour, i know somethings too.

 

[Israeliboy]

Sure, If they will accept to broadcast the Israeli performance, they can enter, but they won't accept it, so this is my point.
You can have Syria as your neighbour, I am not interested in Syria as neighbour, take it for you

 

[seb89]

I don't judge Syria because of that one person . I was meant to be an example.

I think you get me wrong: what I mean with modern country isn't their infrastructure or if they have high tech or not, but just democracy in general. Syria isn't really a democracy, just like other European countries where there is 'no real oposition'. I prefer not to say their names .

 

[Scooby]

Syria has never had anything in common with Europe!
I don't care for their political system, I don't care for level of democracy there .
We have 5 geographical non European countries at ESC (Turkey, Israel, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan) and that's enough.

If people in rest of the worlds love show like Eurovision, they can make own version of that show.

 

[goktengri]

We have 5 geographical non European countries at ESC (Turkey, Israel, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan) and that's enough.

East Thrace is a part of Europe geographically, and it makes us different from other non-european countries. At least we have some lands in Europe.

 

[seb89]

Yeah Scooby, you are right, but Turkey is like goktengri says a part of Europa and official candidate for the European Union

Anyway, I'm still glad Israel, Armenia, Georgia and Azerbajan participate, because they really have good music !!

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

The difference is that Turkey, Israel, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia and Cyprus all have Europeanish cultures generally and therefore it is acceptable for them to participate in Eurovision. Syria however, has absolutely nothing in common with Europe, no shared values, no shared culture. The only slight connection I can see between Syria and Europe is that it was a mandate of France until the 1940's, therefore there should be absolutely no consideration as to Syrian participation in Eurovision.

 

[94ayd]

Actually, all Turkey, Georgia & Azerbaijan have part of their terriotry in Europe. Armenia's really clsoe, too, but their culture's really European anyway... Cyprus is not European at all, concerning geography, but there are Greeks there, so yeah... Israel's made up of European Jews, I guess and is defintiely closer to Europe, compared to the Arab countries around it...

 

[goktengri]

Actually, all Turkey, Georgia & Azerbaijan have part of their terriotry in Europe. Armenia's really clsoe, too, but their culture's really European anyway... Cyprus is not European at all, concerning geography, but there are Greeks there, so yeah... Israel's made up of European Jews, I guess and is defintiely closer to Europe, compared to the Arab countries around it...

America continent founded by europeans. So should we accept USA too ?

Then it is a discrimination when you reject a country that is closer to europe more than some countries in eurovision. We need strong reasons to reject them. We have half-middle eastern culture like them, Israel has too. And yep Israel more liberal but it is about politics and i can't see any cultural, geographical difference between Israel and Syria.

What's the reason ? Their religion is more good for Europeans than Islam ?

Thank God, EBU doesn't think like we. They don't look at political and religios issues.

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

And what do you propose should happen to all the gay and female fans if Syria should win Eurovision Altug?

 

[goktengri]

And what do you propose should happen to all the gay and female fans if Syria should win Eurovision Altug?

Do you really believe that Syria will win the Eurovision ?

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

It wouldn't be impossible, far more likely than the UK winning!!

 

[Silverhelsinki]

Does there really have to be a thread like this for every single country? Come on guys, Syria isn't going to be in the Eurovision