YAPONESIA

[takeru]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 130 NF

So our unproportioned scores would see Flow representing Yaponesia in NSC 130, but that's not a fair way to count things up!
So, a note about reproportioning.
Thanks to the essential and wonderful advice from Halitosian statisticians [MENTION=4369]berlyda[/MENTION] , we have calculated that the best way to get every system in proportion is to divide the maximum score from each system so that it is 100, and then use that factor on every individual score in the system. Boog maths? Eh no matter, it's not too important, but let's see what it does to the numbers:

Ahhhhh that looks much nicer now!
But can you add up the winner? It's a close call, but we do have one!

 

[takeru]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 130 NF

Final Scoreboards

You can check out all the minutiae on my interactive googledocs scoreboard here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/186-HMsKdbfGjUuE0SMpgCoSEAFBZpXNgS5InuReLabA/edit?usp=sharing

Our NSC 130: Your Sound NF winner is................

YETI
with
IE

Thanks for taking part! It was a close-fought battle this time and your systems all made a huge difference
Good luck all in NSC 130, and see you next edition for our third 'Your Sound' 1​

 

[berlyda]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 130 NF

the best way to get every system in proportion

As George Box once said: all models are wrong, but some are useful. In this particular case, it's difficult to say what the best way to rescale is, but this one at least helps to put all scores in the same range. Just a little disclaimer

 

[SpZ]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 130 NF

The points of Zombira and Yaponesia are misscalculated under the Zombiran system

 

[takeru]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 130 NF

The points of Zombira and Yaponesia are misscalculated under the Zombiran system

Wow, mess
I blame your system; searching all the scoreboards (sometimes entire results shows cos the final scoreboard was missing) took ages and I got distracted ^^"

Fixed it in the googledoc 1

 

[takeru]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 130 NF

NSC 130

Yeti
「言え」 「ie」 「Say It」

'ie' (Say it) with lyrics in Japanese kanji, romaji and an English translation.​

Yeti - ie
Thanks to all our voters in an unbelievably tight national final, the J-Rock band Yeti has been sent to Hypjø with the song 'ie', which in fact means 'Say it' (tbh I also thought it was just a Japanese way of writing "Yeah" until I checked the lyrics, oops). This was my most recent discovery of the songs in the NF (2nd placer 'Go' by comparison was the one from my childhood).

The artists are not necessarily named after Yaponesia's broadcaster YETI (Yaponesia Eastern Television Institution) but it's a nice connection. ^^ The noteworthy thing about 'ie' is its clever tongue twister lyrics. You can probably hear already that the song contains lots of repeated Japanese expressions that sound similar. It's worth looking at the lyrics in the video embedded above and written below to get the idea.

LYRICS

腹が減った何か持った食った飲んだ吸った眠った == Hara ga hetta nanka motta kutta nonda sutta nemutta == I was hungry, got something, ate it, drank, smoked, slept
惚れた腫れた抱いた泣いた　なんだかんだ泣いた == Horeta hareta daita naita nandakanda naita == I fell in love, swelled up, embraced, cried about all sorts
その煩悩だって本能だって本当だってわかってるの？ == Sono bonnou datte honnou datte hontou datte wakatteru no? == Do you understand that passion, instinct, truth?
パッと…声にして言え == Pa tto... koe ni shite ie == Suddenly, with your voice, say it

息を吸った吸った吸ったった　お腹いっぱい吸ったった == Iki wo sutta sutta suttatta, onaka ippai suttatta == I took a deep breath, I breathed until I was full
苦しいの吐き出すの　生きているって分かったの == Kurushii no? Hakidasu no? Ikiteirutte wakatta no == Am I suffering? Am I going to vomit? I figured I'm alive
ほら心臓だって脈拍だって血管だって足掻いていた == Hora shinzou datte myakuhaku datte kekkan datte agaite ita == See even my heart, veins and pulse were beating
ちゃんと…行動示せ == Chanto... koudou shimese == Make a proper action
だってだってだって == Datte datte datte == Because because because

たまらない止まらない涙の海で == Tamaranai tomaranai namida no umi de == I can't take it, it won't stop, in this sea of tears
頭の中もぐるぐるパーになってしまう == Atama no naka mo guruguru paa ni natte shimau == And inside my head is also going crazy

痛いの痛いの痛いの飛んでけ　海を渡れ == Itai no itai no itai no tondeke, umi wo watare == Hurt, hurt, hurt, fly away, cross the sea
一体全体どうした？って悶えて == Ittai zentai doushita? tte modaete == Wondering 'How did that happen?'
なんか産まれそうじゃない？ == Nanka umaresou janai? == Isn't that something you'd come out with
言え == Ie == Say it

吸って　また吐いて == Sutte, mata haite == Breathe in, then breathe out
文句あんの？もう食わんの？ == Monku anno? Mou kuwan no? == Got any complaints? Aren't you gonna eat?
アンタなんて一人のモノじゃない == Anta nante hitori no mono janai == Aren't you your own person?
言って突っ込んで落ち着いて溜め込んで == Itte, tsukkonde, ochikonde, tamekonde == Say it, dive in, fall down, accumulate it
うろ覚えで噛み付いて恥かいて生きたって… == Urooboe de kamitsuite hazukaite ikitatte == Bite on to a memory, live it shamelessly
痛ててててて == Itetetetete == Ouch

消えそうなの。えっ？そうなの？回りくどいの == Kiesounano? E? Sounano? Mawarikudoi no? == You're about to disappear? Huh? Really? Are you dizzy?
もうわかんないよ　見つかんないよ　全部わかんないよ == Mou wakannaiyo, mitsukannaiyo, zenbu wakannaiyo == I still don't understand, I can't find it, I don't understand anything
その煩悩だって本能だって本当だってわかってんの？ == Sono bonnou datte honnou datte hontou datte wakatten no? == Do you understand that passion, instinct, truth?
ちゃんと…腹割って言え == Chanto... hara watte ie == Properly, from your gut, say it
だってだってだって == Datte datte datte == Because because because

たまらない止まらない涙の海で == Tamaranai tomaranai namida no umi de == I can't take it, it won't stop, in this sea of tears
頭の中もぐるぐるパーになってしまう == Atama no naka mo guruguru paa ni natte shimau == And inside my head is also going crazy

痛いの痛いの痛いの飛んでけ　星を回せ == Itai no itai no itai no tondeke, umi wo watare == Hurt, hurt, hurt, fly away, orbit a star
一体全体どうした？って悶えて == Ittai zentai doushita? tte modaete == Wondering 'How did that happen?'
あれ？もしかして == Are? Moshikashite == Wait, by some chance...
言いたいの？痛いの？== Iitai no? Itai no? == Do you want to say it? Does it hurt?
もうどうしたいっていうの？== Mou doushitaitte iu no? == What do you want to do now, you say?
「ソレ」って…単純なんじゃない？== "Sore" tte tanjun nan janai? == "That", isn't it straightforward?



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[takeru]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 131 NF

NSC 131 ||| YOUR SOUND
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NSC 131 National Final

С РОЖДЕСТВОМ! Screw Western traditions, it has just hit midnight on the 7th January in Kamchatka, and that means it's Christmas again! For Russians and other Orthodox faiths at least. Anyway, this is all a loosely connected way of saying wintry/Christmas songs don't have to be just for that one Christmas NSC edition, and Yaponesia will prove that with this edition's Winter Season 'Your Sound' NF!

In honour of the New Year, the Russians, for whom Christmas is today, and the Japanese, who don't give a shit about Christmas anyway, have provided three wonderfully wintry Russo-Japanese hybrid songs; that is, either Russian people singing Japanese songs, or Japanese people attempting Russian songs. See if you can spot the difference...

The usual 'Your Sound' rules apply, so send us your votes and your systems, спасибо & ありがとう. xsanta



01

Miki - SNEZHNAYA PORA (Shiro no Kisetsu)
Снежная Пора ~ 白の季節



02

Girls und Panzer - KATYUSHA
Катюша ~ カチューシャ



03

Len - OSTROLIST (Hiiragi)
Остролист ~ 柊



YOUR VOTING​

1. PM me [MENTION=4372]takeru[/MENTION] a score (/100) for each song, with ties broken.
2. Post your voting system in this thread
3. The detailed procedure from my first post is here
4. I will reproportion all systems for the sake of fairness

DEADLINE: 11/1/16 23:59CET​

xxmas
xsman xsman
С Новым Годом и Рождеством.
あけましておめでとうございます－よいお年を。
Season's Greetings from Yaponesia!​

 

[Romeo]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 131 NF

b Voted

My system:
winner gets 100pts
2nd 10pts
3rd 1pt

 

[takeru]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 131 NF

Season's greetings!

Many thanks to the voters so far
()
b
(system pls)

I will grant any other interested voters 12 hours more 1

I will now also unveil Yaponesia's system ^^

• Each voter's system will be given a rating by me between 0.5 and 2
• Systems that are fine will get 1, systems I particularly like will get 2, systems that make me cry will get 0.5
• This rating will multiply that voter's scores (for the Yaponesian system only)
• For the sake of fairness my own scores will be 0.5'd

(pls take the hint and make me a nice system xoxo)

Looking forward to some more votes and systems
Don't lose your festive cheer; tis still the season of giving (your PMs to me) xsman

 

[berlyda]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 131 NF

(system pls)

If s is the score given out of 100, then the number of points it gets is (in Excel language) s*MOD(s,2)*MOD(s,3)*MOD(s,5)

 

[Sean]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 131 NF

Wait for me please

 

[strajker]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 131 NF

system: (x - avg_of_all_songs_for_all_nations) * x

 

[dogmeat]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 131 NF

My system:

The host lists as many NSC entries of each voter as he can (from memory). Doesn't have to be full titles - something like "that banana song" is fine. 3 minutes for each country.
Make it 2 minutes if there's a lot of voters and you're in a hurry.
Now multiply the contry's scores by number of entries you could remember.

 

[Sean]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 131 NF

Work out the cost of the last food shop you did, add this to the total of points the last three Russian entries got in Eurovision finals, divide by 2 and times this by the scores. Or something.

 

[takeru]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 131 NF

Thanks all for your votes!
b
The NF is closed now, I'll do results when my scoreboards are ready, provisionally at 17:00CET

Comino's system, which was PM'd to me:

But here's the system:

+100 points for each score over 90
+90 points for each score over 80
+60 points for each score over 70
+40 points for each score over 60
+20 points for each score over 50
+10 points for each score over 40
Nil points for each score between 31 and 39
-80 points for each score below 30
-90 points for each score below 20
-100 points for each score below 10

BR

See you later

 

[takeru]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 131 NF

Okaaaay let's get started with some results.
We've got a bit more time than last time this edition (and none of your systems took hours to figure out so thank you ).
So, we can see the full results with individual scoreboards

Let's start with my own opinions, kept equal as per usual, and with my own system:

• Each voter's system will be given a rating by me between 0.5 and 2
• Systems that are fine will get 1, systems I particularly like will get 2, systems that make me cry will get 0.5
• This rating will multiply that voter's scores (for the Yaponesian system only)
• For the sake of fairness my own scores will be 0.5'd

Halved as promised:

 

[takeru]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 131 NF

b Il-Bidu votes and system next.

My system:
winner gets 100pts
2nd 10pts
3rd 1pt

Nice and simple, so gets my system's rating of satisfactory. Pretty polarising scores though (I broke the tie in the order you sent them to me btw)

 

[takeru]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 131 NF

Here comes Halito

If s is the score given out of 100, then the number of points it gets is (in Excel language) s*MOD(s,2)*MOD(s,3)*MOD(s,5)

Was kiiiinda tempted to give this sneaky system a disapproval rating, then again this voter has been a particularly kind host, so I'll let him off ^^

Len currently in a comfortable lead here

 

[takeru]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 131 NF

My system:

The host lists as many NSC entries of each voter as he can (from memory). Doesn't have to be full titles - something like "that banana song" is fine. 3 minutes for each country.
Make it 2 minutes if there's a lot of voters and you're in a hurry.
Now multiply the contry's scores by number of entries you could remember.

Congratulations Rumia, you get my x2 approval rating for a particularly fun system
I even considered making a video of myself doing it..... but then it probably wasn't quite as fun to watch so I didn't bother ^^

Here are my memory scores, ssnc:

72
b 4
46
29
20
23
22

Aaaand what do they do to the results?

 

[takeru]

Re: YAPONESIA: Your Sound ~ NSC 131 NF

But here's the system:

+100 points for each score over 90
+90 points for each score over 80
+60 points for each score over 70
+40 points for each score over 60
+20 points for each score over 50
+10 points for each score over 40
Nil points for each score between 31 and 39
-80 points for each score below 30
-90 points for each score below 20
-100 points for each score below 10

BR

Thanks for voting Luke, a solid system

Here's what it does: