United Kingdom UNITED KINGDOM 2025

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[ESCConor]

I'm gutted for Olly and the UK delegation. I fear 2025 will be a return to the Michael Rice/Electro Velvet era.

I dont think it will tbh.

We need to go back to basics, get a vocalist, promote the song, stage it well and get a song that can stand out.

 

[gigi_copp3]

It's not difficult.
Someone who can sing with a good song, juries will go bananas.
I think UK could be successful as Italy and France with the Mengoni/Slimane formula

 

[ESCConor]

It's not difficult.
Someone who can sing with a good song, juries will go bananas.
I think UK could be successful as Italy and France with the Mengoni/Slimane formula

This is what I keep saying, the UK needs to go back to sending songs that are jury friendly, but also can get a good televote score.

I personally wonder if Hannah Waddingham could be someone who we could look at, maybe the BBC could get Sam Ryder back?

 

[Chrisiam]

Ryder has said that he'd love to do Eurovision again but he wanted to take a break from the contest. Got to remember that for him given that the UK hosted it, he was in the Eurovision orbit for two years. So outside of some event apprences and interviews here and there this is his first year outside of Eurovision. So it might be a little while yet before we see him back. But someone like him would be a good idea.

To be fair to the BBC our output at Eurovision has massively improved since 2019. I know that Newman didn't work out but his songs felt more contemporary than we'd had in years (and trended very well in the UK Youtube chart, far longer than Olly), Ryder was great, Muller's and Alexander's songs much like Newman's were great but let down by bad vocals. The folks at the BBC (Or the people doing Eurovision or working with them on it) know what a good song sounds like but the need to find people that sound good outside of the studio or outside of being a support act. Had all the post-Rice acts sung as well as Ryder (And Rice to be fair because he can be fantastic) or at least as good as on the studio cut then I believe then we'd be consistently on the left side of the board. Maybe not top ten or top fifteen but it would have been better.

If we can get a good singer, like everyone keeps saying, and a good song then everything else will start to fall into place.

 

[Synergise]

I think the BBC made an error in choosing Olly Alexander FIRST, and then choosing one of his songs. Vocally it wasn't great, and as impressive as the staging technically was, it was drowned out by just being a bit too jarringly sexual. But I think the main problem WAS the song - this was not a winning song, evident from the muted reaction when it came out relative to the hype and potential we saw when Olly was announced. Dizzy was a 'good' song, but there was never any real connection between Olly and the song - many people could have represented the UK with that song - when you look at the songs that do well, they're ones that are able to create personal narratives and feel very connected to their performers.

The UK is in a difficult position with how it's allowed to finance the competition, so I can't see us doing well without the support of an established act with a label who will provide the needed investment. But, time and time again, we see that picking a "name" does not work when the song/performance itself isn't first class.

The UK delegation's priority should be sending a fantastic vocalist with a song that creates some sort of story.

 

[goncalovieira]

Rina would be great and she is still a niche artist. So, Eurovision could be a chance for her.
Yes, because Eurovision nowadays is a very good way of showing you to the world. You need to know how to make it happen.

 

[ESCConor]

Sam Ryder could represent UK again at Eurovision after Olly Alexander defeat

The Space Man singer secured the UK its highest score in decades in 2022

www.standard.co.uk

Looks like the early favourite is Rebecca Ferguson.

 

[HarryUK]

Sam Ryder could represent UK again at Eurovision after Olly Alexander defeat

The Space Man singer secured the UK its highest score in decades in 2022

www.standard.co.uk

Looks like the early favourite is Rebecca Ferguson.

Rebecca Ferguson has been rumoured since she finished X Factor lol

 

[LivingOrganism]

Olly proved that being famous doesn't equal success at eurovision. I hope BBC learns from that and next year they choose someone for their talent instead of the number of followers on their instagram.

 

[ESCConor]

Olly proved that being famous doesn't equal success at eurovision. I hope BBC learns from that and next year they choose someone for their talent instead of the number of followers on their instagram.

I wonder if the BBC might actually do what they did before and look to partner with a record label who then selects the song and artist as well as being in charge of promoting the song in Europe.

 

[SpiritofKeiino]

I hope not Rebecca Ferguson. I strongly dislike her voice and music style.

 

[Andrin]

Olly proved that being famous doesn't equal success at eurovision. I hope BBC learns from that and next year they choose someone for their talent instead of the number of followers on their instagram.

BBC should have learned their lesson after sending Engelbert Humperdinck and Bonnie Tyler.

 

[Ted Talks]

We've got to be more open to different genres in future, that's for sure. Pop and variations of the same theme can only get you so far, so something different like indie or RnB shouldn't be discounted immediately.

I wouldn't be against another pop song, but we need a strong vocalist. I was always iffy about Olly's live vocal capacity despite some claiming he was brilliant as I'd seen some shaky TV performances of his before the contest. He wasn't awful (ala Mae) but he wasn't great either. Like everyone is saying, get the strong artist first.

The key thing to me is avoiding a cliched 'Eurovision sounding' song. We just need to send a good song that happens to be our Eurovision song. That's why Space Man was a success as it was a song Sam had for years and then put forward for Eurovision when he was approached - he didn't craft a song especially for the contest and as a result it was true to him.

Doing it for the contest and the contest only limits creativity as it becomes a tick box exercise to make a 'Eurovision sounding' song. That's not how we should approach it.

 

[HarryUK]

What’s the British version of Dustin The Turkey? Basil Brush?? Shall we go for him

 

[Sean]

The key thing to me is avoiding a cliched 'Eurovision sounding' song. We just need to send a good song that happens to be our Eurovision song. That's why Space Man was a success as it was a song Sam had for years and then put forward for Eurovision when he was approached - he didn't craft a song especially for the contest and as a result it was true to him.

To be fair to Olly he said multiple times they wrote Dizzy for his album and then decided it would be good to send to Eurovision

 

[SpiritofKeiino]

UK has a huge and vibrant urban music scene. Would be nice to see a rap/RnB/grime/garage act from the UK at Eurovision. I know a few those genres don't always do well at Eurovision but it's worth the risk IMO

 

[ArmpitOfEurope]

I love Grace Davies, and she expressed interest on twitter

Grace Davies - roots (Official Video)

Huge thank you to everyone who put their heart and soul into making this video 💞 I love it so much 😭Stream A Wonderful, Boring, Normal Life - https://bfan....

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[Sean]

Fat Dog, let's go

 

[HarryUK]

I'm going to say it.... Sydnie Christmas from BGT would be a phenomenal representative if the BBC want to return to the "safe" ballad route:

She's the favourite to win BGT; offer her ESC on a bloody plate please Mr Smithurst!!!!

 

[Romeo]

No more uk hating… gay-vote winners… bad mistakes by the BBC. Give a good act a chance!