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United Kingdom UNITED KINGDOM 2025 - Remember Monday - What The Hell Just Happened?

How do you rate this entry?

  • 12

    5 5.6%
  • 10

    6 6.7%
  • 8

    19 21.1%
  • 7

    11 12.2%
  • 6

    5 5.6%
  • 5

    10 11.1%
  • 4

    9 10.0%
  • 3

    8 8.9%
  • 2

    4 4.4%
  • 1

    8 8.9%
  • 0

    5 5.6%

  • Total voters
    90

Leydan

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Personally I have always felt that the reason things went off the rails as much as they did post 2003 was due to how much the BBC over-hyped the entry; they legit thought that they were going to be a global sensation, bigger than Britney Spears (No, really!) and they had hit solid gold. They hyped them up to hell and back to an extent never seen before or since, gave them their own Eurovision review show (where one of them said the Turkish entry dressed like a prostitue or words to that effect) and pushed the hell out of that song and them.

Then it failed, and the professional embarrassment was such that they couldn't accept they got it wrong and pissed the public's money up the wall on an act that didn't even have its original line-up come the contest so blamed it on politics, an idea carried by that twerp Wogan till he tied his career to the successes of Abrahams (but not before saying on his show that he couldn't possibly win because he was black).

I do feel that in the few years we have seen a shift and that the BBC does want to win, they just don't know how to win, or how to find the act to do it. And that there are too many people in the process and wider industry that would treat any selection show like an X Factor-lite to make something worth while.

Tbh based on what's been said by them, Tap etc in the past, so many doors are closed. Like they had to go all out to convince Sam Ryders management to let him do it. It seems artists are open to it, but their management isn't, or labels. If a label does get involved it's bottom of the barrel effort. Sam Ryder shows what can happen if all parts of the process are invested and believe in it.

Most of their problems with how difficult it is though is of their own making with how they've treated the contest in the past. Sadly after Sam things fell apart. They apparently asked Rina in 2023, but she took too long and we ended up with Mae who while I loved her song was a disaster live - crushing all momentum dead. Then Olly had the name but a lackluster song and mid vocals. Then after Mae and Olly talking to anyone who will listen about how traumatic it all was. It's a recipe for disaster.

I'm not writing Remember Monday off at all, because of this. It's not a fair assumption to make. I do think this has great potential live, but we will have to wait and see. They're fantastic singers with a close bond and know how to have fun it seems, hopefully it shines. Just as is right now the song isn't hitting it.
 

ESCConor

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It would be a bit harsh to have this finishing in the bottom 5 imo.

it's definitely not the worst song ever tbh.
 

Lietuvis

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It would be a bit harsh to have this finishing in the bottom 5 imo.

it's definitely not the worst song ever tbh.
No it's definitely an okay song. I just can't imagine it finishing in the top5. And with the talent that UK has at its disposal, they should be finishing top5 every single year. In terms of doing the least with the most, UK is probably the best.
 

ESCConor

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No it's definitely an okay song. I just can't imagine it finishing in the top5. And with the talent that UK has at its disposal, they should be finishing top5 every single year. In terms of doing the least with the most, UK is probably the best.

I think saying the UK should always be I'm the top 5 is quite an arrogant thing to say. No country is entitled to always assume they will finish that high.

I personally think it's about steady progression, I always say you should try and do better every year so you slowly build that momentum.
 

Iker

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It would be a bit harsh to have this finishing in the bottom 5 imo.

it's definitely not the worst song ever tbh.

Some really good songs finished last and some bad ones too. Sometimes due to some really poor staging/live performance and unfortunate running order. This finishing last would see fair to me.
 

Loindici

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I do feel that in the few years we have seen a shift and that the BBC does want to win, they just don't know how to win, or how to find the act to do it.
I think 2022-2025 UK gave a good idea that they're trying, but after Sam Ryder they couldn't find someone a wider audience could get behind/find interesting.
 

MAD20

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What are the general public opinions in the UK about this song? This has definitely become my guilty pleasure of the year and a great try from the UK to bring something fresh to the contest! Upgrading to :10:
 

cegs5

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I just think this isn't a bad choice... but not sure if that is actually a good thing. Probably the harmonies, if they hit the notes, will be valued by the juries, and avoid the null points. but getting viewers to vote for them will be a challenge, even if they don't dislike the song.
 

grazy2266

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I think we have an OK song, I can see this getting Jury points, we struggled a little with the televote anyway so can see that being low, my hope is 100 jury points or there abouts and around 20 televote to pop us left side. Obviously this depends on vocals, performance and staging.
 

EDC0708

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Very different UK song this year with a mix of genres, Remember Monday have great vocals, so hope this will get UK to the left hand side of the board again.
 

Chrisiam

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Given recent history it is a safe bet. And whilst I'm to make my mind up on my feelings towards it, I feel it is better to wait till closer to the contest before we nail it down for a bottom finish.
 

Jupiter

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I really, really, really, really doubt this will come last. The ladies seem to be amazing live, and in a year with this few jury friendly Songs, they will get jury points. I honestly would not be shocked if they made the jury top 10. Televote will probably not love them as much, but well... that would not matter that much than. Basically, they will pull an Isaak I guess.
 
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Chrisiam

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I could see it doing well with the Juries, the public is such a hard one to track with this. I want to say that this will either be a "Love it or hate it" situation where it will either sink with the televote or do shockingly well (not win but better than some think). But at the same time there is a part of me that worries that even if people do like it they'll just go "Oh that was fun, I liked it" but they won't like it enough to vote for it.
 

theditz83

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I reckon this might get some jury love with a great vocal performance, especially if those harmonies can really pop - but I'm dubious on the wider public vote appeal. My mum was not a fan when I played her the song, and she normally at least tries to get behind our entry - she said it sounded like about 3 different songs mashed together, and that's my general concern as well.
 

kamc

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I feel like this song in particular is going to live and die by its staging…
If they go for creative, fun staging that leans into the theatrical nature of the song then it could do well. I’m thinking loads of props and interactions with each other. They basically need to be turning that Basel stage into a 3 minute west end musical as much as possible.
 
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