UNITED KINGDOM 2013 - Bonnie Tyler - Believe In Me

[Yamarus]

I loved Bonnie Tyler's performance, she was amazing and in my top 10 for the night. Sad about the results although that wasn't too unexpected unfortunately.

I'll repeat it: Bonnie was great.

Now I'm hoping for a sudden change in BBC Eurovision policy so that we'll head for London 2015.

 

[NemesisNick]

In all fairness to the public, the options they presented to us were generally appalling. We chose bad entries because we had nothing good to choose from.

YOU COULD HAVE HAD CYNDI!!!!!! X-OI

GAH I still can't believe you chose Scooch over her! xdoh

You can b***h and moan all you want about the BBC rejecting Katie Melua and The Hurts but the one year you the British public had the power you basically threw it away and acted as bad and ignorant as the BBC do. Can't really complain about the BBC when its apparent the public were just as bad can you?

The year you're talking about is 2007.

Ok then, 2007. About a week before our national final (whatever it was called that year) I saw the six national finalists' videos on the BBC website. To be quite honest I was disappointed with all six of them. At the time I personally felt Scooch - "Flying The Flag (For You)" was the best of a bad bunch, or to rephrase that, least worst of a bad bunch. I knew "Flying The Flag (For You)" wasn't a very good song, but it seemed a great Eurovision song on several counts: ABBAesque style chorus, it mentioned several ESC country capital cities (London, Berlin, Paris, Tallin, Helsinki, Prague, Amsterdam etc). I thought it would appeal to viewers all over Europe in the 2007 ESC Final and attract loads of phone votes, but clearly it didn't.

During the week leading up to when I first saw those six 2007 UK ESC national final preview videos, the BBC had shown a children's dance series Boogie Beebies; the dance each day was "Sporty Boogie". I thought "Sporty Boogie" was much better than any of the six songs that were about to compete in the UK's national final to represent the UK at the Eurovision Song Contest that year; indeed I even felt "Sporty Boogie" should be our 2007 Eurovision entry! That just goes to show how bad I felt the UK's six national finalists for ESC 2007 were, and what a bad bunch us Brits had to chose from that year.

If we want to take Eurovision seriously in future, the BBC should 1) give us a national final in which to choose a song, and 2) provide a good selection of songs, all of which have a realistic chance of appealing to people all over Europe.

Interestngly Graham Norton said in his opening commentary that the Melodifestivalen in Malmo is highly popular viewing in Sweden. If it's so successful there, it could work here. A multi-week selection series could be as popular as Strictly Come Dancing, The X Factor or Britain's Got Talent if they put the effort into it.

 

[i anixi]

So you thought an ABBAesque style chorus in 2007 was a good idea. Quite an interesting view

 

[CrimTV]

The year you're talking about is 2007.

Ok then, 2007. About a week before our national final (whatever it was called that year) I saw the six national finalists' videos on the BBC website. To be quite honest I was disappointed with all six of them. At the time I personally felt Scooch - "Flying The Flag (For You)" was the best of a bad bunch, or to rephrase that, least worst of a bad bunch. I knew "Flying The Flag (For You)" wasn't a very good song, but it seemed a great Eurovision song on several counts: ABBAesque style chorus, it mentioned several ESC country capital cities (London, Berlin, Paris, Tallin, Helsinki, Prague, Amsterdam etc). I thought it would appeal to viewers all over Europe in the 2007 ESC Final and attract loads of phone votes, but clearly it didn't.

During the week leading up to when I first saw those six 2007 UK ESC national final preview videos, the BBC had shown a children's dance series Boogie Beebies; the dance each day was "Sporty Boogie". I thought "Sporty Boogie" was much better than any of the six songs that were about to compete in the UK's national final to represent the UK at the Eurovision Song Contest that year; indeed I even felt "Sporty Boogie" should be our 2007 Eurovision entry! That just goes to show how bad I felt the UK's six national finalists for ESC 2007 were, and what a bad bunch us Brits had to chose from that year.

If we want to take Eurovision seriously in future, the BBC should 1) give us a national final in which to choose a song, and 2) provide a good selection of songs, all of which have a realistic chance of appealing to people all over Europe.

Interestngly Graham Norton said in his opening commentary that the Melodifestivalen in Malmo is highly popular viewing in Sweden. If it's so successful there, it could work here. A multi-week selection series could be as popular as Strictly Come Dancing, The X Factor or Britain's Got Talent if they put the effort into it.

And it will be perfect for the BBC between early Jan-mid March with no Saturday entertainment.

 

[GRE]

So disappointed for this result.
Everybody respect Bonnie,but no one voted her.
Europe didn't gave even 50 points to her,so that she can enter top15.
I am really curious,all these artists that approached her BEFORE the contest,did they go to give her congratulations for her performance AFTER?
Anyway,i think this song from her new album,would do so much better.

 

[GWTW1939]

So you thought an ABBAesque style chorus in 2007 was a good idea. Quite an interesting view

And that seems to be the problem cause even the British public appear as clueless as the BBC. When you consider who won in 2007 as well as the UK's best results the last 10-12 years their best come with young female solo artists with big voices singing ballads.

Do people here and in Britain really think that Scooch were the best to send that year no matter how low the quality of the selection might have been? xwhat Cyndi might not have won put I bet she would have prevented the embarrassment of that year and countless others the British entry had to face.

 

[Terry]

The same thing happened in 2008 when Andy Abraham was picked over Michelle Gayle. Michelle Gayle's song was much better and then Terry Wogan just had to use his stupid wildcard and obviously people voted for him purely because he was in X Factor.

 

[Leydan]

Haha is it far fetched to say, that Blue may represent us again? second time lucky???

 

[Yamarus]

Haha is it far fetched to say, that Blue may represent us again? second time lucky???

Please no!

 

[Quent91]

The Arctic Monkeys

 

[Matt]

Unfortunately Bonnie didn't do too hot but after the live performances it shouldn't come as a major surprise. The jury final show in particular was quite rough but one thing I can say, you can tell that Bonnie Tyler (and Cascada) are veterans as they were the most entertaining and fun people during interviews and press conferences. Bonnie cracked me up and it was such a joy having her in Eurovision. That being said, I hope the BBC finally will learn a lesson when choosing an entry. This shouldn't be about promoting an artist's latest album.

 

[GWTW1939]

Haha is it far fetched to say, that Blue may represent us again? second time lucky???

Blue may have been has-beens but at least they were from the last 15 years. Yeah they did all that promotion across the continent that others didn't do (although Bonnie went to Germany and Belgium yet got no points from them) but their nostalgia was probably more hip with current voters even if they were a boy band.

Not sure if that makes any sense but despite being a has-been Blue was still more current then more famous Bonnie Tyler. So the message is if you have to send a has-been at least make it a has-been from the last 10-15 years!

 

[Leydan]

Blue may have been has-beens but at least they were from the last 15 years. Yeah they did all that promotion across the continent that others didn't do (although Bonnie went to Germany and Belgium yet got no points from them) but their nostalgia was probably more hip with current voters even if they were a boy band.

Not sure if that makes any sense but despite being a has-been Blue was still more current then more famous Bonnie Tyler. So the message is if you have to send a has-been at least make it a has-been from the last 10-15 years!

pretty much so. They came 11th in the show while singing 14th. We came 11th because of the Jury. But with a position about 20, and a jury that isn't full of music deadbeats, then we can do well?

anyway, I doubt they will do it again anyway.

 

[apasionata]

I liked Bonnie's performance. She should've been in TOP 15 imo. I hope BBC will finally wake up and stop recycling has-been singers.

 

[Jeansy]

Let's just get 1D or Beiber and be done with it.
Sure it's playing dirty but Europe has it's little bloc voting thing going on so I say all is fair in war.

 

[Terry]

Justin Beiber : puke :

Are you serious?

 

[Yamarus]

Let's just get 1D or Beiber and be done with it.
Sure it's playing dirty but Europe has it's little bloc voting thing going on so I say all is fair in war.

Playing dirty? I think it's a risk neither artist would ever ever take. What if their song ends up not winning? For Bonnie Tyler, it was only a step in her already long and established career, something she apparently did with pleasure and without high expectations. For One Direction, it would put enormous pressure for nothing really. They don't need Eurovision to promote themselves in Europe. They'd have all to lose and nothing to gain from the ESC.

 

[Celia]

Let's just get 1D or Beiber and be done with it.
Sure it's playing dirty but Europe has it's little bloc voting thing going on so I say all is fair in war.

I'd be offended as a human being if Justin Bieber represented such a magnificent country when it comes to music as is

 

[eerik]

Trivia: Bonnie Tyler was an interval act at Estonian national final Eurolaul in 1997.

 

[Leydan]

Let's just get 1D or Beiber and be done with it.
Sure it's playing dirty but Europe has it's little bloc voting thing going on so I say all is fair in war.

Justin Beiber : puke :

Are you serious?

I'd be offended as a human being if Justin Bieber represented such a magnificent country when it comes to music as is

I'm joining you in that group.

Don't dare mention the name of Bieber in thy presence once more. 1 You'll be giving me nightmares now. :twisted: