UKRAINE 2013 - Zlata Ognevich – Gravity

[Trece]

A-lister, omg please lets without politics etc. at least here

 

[A-lister]

A-lister, omg please lets without politics etc. at least here

Totally fine with me, I just answered to Scooby's post because he seemed to be totally unaware of why this even could be regarded as a sensitive thing

I'll gladly move on from that subject now though when all has been said and done...

 

[Trece]

But really, it's important to understand...

55% Ukrainian speak in Russian, including Zlata, because she lived in Crimea (only Russian language they use) and now i guess in Kyiv (also the majority)
Ukrainian TV is not exception, by laws host should follow Ukrainian language, but guests. So almost all (55% and more, even West Ukrainian) answer to host in Russian and !!! simple people (no matter East or West Ukrainian) don't pay attention on it at all! Only nationalists threat people who speak Russian, but they do it in every single country

 

[A-lister]

55% Ukrainian speak in Russian, including Zlata, because she lived in Crimea (only Russian language they use) and now i guess in Kyiv (also the majority)
Ukrainian TV is not exception, by laws host should follow Ukrainian language, but guests. So almost all (55% and more, even West Ukrainian) answer to host in Russian and !!! simple people (no matter East or West Ukrainian) don't pay attention on it at all! Only nationalists threat people who speak Russian, but they do it in every single country

I didn't "threat" anyone, I just think if she knows Ukrainian I find it odd that she insists using Russian when the host is talking to her in Ukrainian...

That was more or less it

I never stated she was a bad person because she's from Crimea and has Russian as her first language though

I'm totally digging Zlata and you know it

 

[Trece]

I didn't "threat" anyone, I just think if she knows Ukrainian I find it odd that she insists using Russian when the host is talking to her in Ukrainian...

That was more or less it

I never stated she was a bad person because she's from Crimea and has Russian as her first language though

I'm totally digging Zlata and you know it

Actually i didn't mentioned you
Zlata doen't talk in Ukrainian in real life, yes she knows it (like all Ukrainians) but she uses Russian that say exactly that she thinks

 

[yulichka]

But the things is, I know she can speak Ukrainian, yet all the interviews she seems to insisting on Russian.

I always found that a bit weird and lame, especially considering the political environment in Ukraine, I think more acts should insist on speaking Ukrainian and especially it shows a bit of lack of respect when the host is actually talking in Ukrainian to you

It is really sad but true, many hosts switch to Russian just because they talk to Ukrainian, but Russian speaking guest/interviewee, and those who don't switch to Russian are called arrogant by many since they don't respect interviewee in their eyes... it is all politics, as you said seeing the political environment they'd better support Ukrainian language (oh, my wet dream), but in real they don't do that At least Zlata has many Ukrainian songs and lullabies lately.

55% Ukrainian speak in Russian, including Zlata, because she lived in Crimea (only Russian language they use) and now i guess in Kyiv (also the majority)
Ukrainian TV is not exception, by laws host should follow Ukrainian language, but guests. So almost all (55% and more, even West Ukrainian) answer to host in Russian and !!! simple people (no matter East or West Ukrainian) don't pay attention on it at all! Only nationalists threat people who speak Russian, but they do it in every single country

I pay attention to it every time and I am not nationalist

 

[A-lister]

Actually i didn't mentioned you
Zlata doen't talk in Ukrainian in real life, yes she knows it (like all Ukrainians) but she uses Russian that say exactly that she thinks

Oh ok, well good then... because I thought you meant I was one of "them"

Well, I heard her speak Ukrainian at some occasions and well she's sung in it, so I just figured she knew it enough to answer in it aswell

 

[A-lister]

It is really sad but true, many hosts switch to Russian just because they talk to Ukrainian, but Russian speaking guest/interviewee, and those who don't switch to Russian are called arrogant by many since they don't respect interviewee in their eyes... it is all politics, as you said seeing the political environment they'd better support Ukrainian language (oh, my wet dream), but in real they don't do that At least Zlata has many Ukrainian songs and lullabies lately.

This is what I meant... I do find it a bit arrogant to answer back in Russian when you know Ukrainian when being interviewed in Ukrainian... to me it's just pointless

I don't think Zlata is a bad person however, she doesn't come across as such to me atleast, but I just find it a bit unnecessary that's all

 

[Milos-BC]

Deserved 3rd position for Zlata One of the best songs and the performances of the contest for me. Everything was just.......top material.

 

[evija87]

1-Barcelona with Temo Sajaia (Ukraine+Georgia duets programme)
2-Phantom of the Opera with Asan Biljalov (Narodna Zirka - they've won it)

Fantastic!
Really, awesome stuff... Very rare for singer to have such crazy variety like Zlata has, but that's thanks to her abilities and great musical education.

I've watched other performance from that shows too and they're are great too, but let's not post all at one time ;D

Some Trivia stuff, I don't know if you recognise Asan here, but he was in Kukushka video.

 

[Xtiyan]

One of my favorites!

 

[Quent91]

Re: UKRAINE 2013

Definitely one of the best songs this year !

I changed my vote from 6 to 10 points

 

[A-lister]

Really, awesome stuff... Very rare for singer to have such crazy variety like Zlata has, but that's thanks to her abilities and great musical education.

Yeah, what strikes me about Zlata is how extremely musically versatile she is, she can jump from soul, to classical, to ethno, to pop... like it's the most natural thing to do... most artists cannot do this (well they can try, but most will actually fail).

And to this she's also very beautiful and her vocals are just spot on...

What her disadvantage is though, is that she still haven't really found her "place" in music...

 

[A-lister]

Why did NTU insist on using Matias as their spokesperson once more? They always had these hot females as spokespersons, but now they use a goofy looking non-talented singer that no one really cares for instead

Please change the spokesperson for 2014! Bring back some hotness!

 

[Yoozek]

Bring back some hotness!

Zlata wasn't enought hot to fulfill you!?!

 

[A-lister]

Zlata wasn't enought hot to fulfill you!?!

I was talking about the Ukrainian spokespersons

Zlata of course is stunning !

 

[evija87]

Hopefully when she finally release her album and she said few times that after ESC she's going to studio and work on that, there will be a great direction
I hope for some new great songs similiar to "Prystrast", "Kukushka", "Za lisami, gorami", I also like very much "Ostrov Ljubvi" (Tiny Island from NF2010), "Angeli", "Daleko". Or maybe it will go towards "One Day", "Gravity", which are also great, but I prefer she makes this first album entirely Ukrainian, OK, maybe with 2-3 songs in Russian, all depends on proportions, how much of what she already released will be added to new material. Fingers crossed very strong, I have really big hopes for this. The fact is, the bar is set on good level.

OK, back to performances...

Again one per each TV show.

In the first: Zlata and Temo could make a hot couple . Beautiful song, sounds like classic, but I couldn't find it, tried to google by title but something with different lyrics pop up.

Second: Great song! I wish we had such TV Show in format that look very much alike with Strictly Come Dancing, but with singing. This pretty great and could be fun watching our singers in many different styles. .

 

[Celia]

gave Zlata 10 points and 0 to Alyosha (I'll just never get why she got one of the "worst" Ukranian results)
I thought we would give it points but no so many, I was really surprised people liked it that much here

 

[evija87]

I don't understand that either. Alyosha deserved also around 8-10-12 (from every country)... It's a great song and really has message that should give people some thinking, respect the place we live in and care about our planet ;D

As for entries

2003: I think it's just there, OK, but I'm not a fan
2004: My big guilty pleasure but anyway I'm sad that Ukraine won against Lane Moje.
2005: I don't like it, but don't hate it. Completly not my cup of tea.
2006: Good! I like it
2007: Hahaha.
2008: I'm usually not to keen on schlagers... but this one I love!
2009: The song is OK but performance definition of OTT
2010: LOVE IT. Simple performance, great song in style I really like, great voice what else I need! x12s
2011: I think final performance was very good, the song is average but generally OK and Ksenya really drew attention
2012: I like it, but it's not among my favourite songs
2013: LOVE IT. Great song and Zlata escapes descriptions x12s

 

[Trece]

2003: ok song
2004: one of the best winner ever and the best Ukrainian entry for me x12s
2005: like it
2006: love it
2007: hate it
2008: love it
2009: don't like it
2010: love it. One of the best Ukrainian entries and should have been higher (but i should say that I become LOVE it 2 years after ESC...) x12s
2011: ok
2012: don't like it
2013: even if i found this song not great, Zlata made all x12s