Switzerland SWITZERLAND 2021 - Gjon's Tears - Tout l’univers

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Laisse le vent qui frôle
Sa main sur mon épaule
Le vide dans ma tête
Pas la moindre cachette

C'est l'aube qui décline
Derrière un champ de ruines
Le moment de grandir
Ne pas te retenir

Je vois derrière nous des morceaux de toi
Et ce que la douleur a fait de moi

Tout l'univers
Nos deux cœurs sous la terre
Au milieu des failles où tout éclate
Se trouver au point d'impact
Sans toi

Que deviendront nos souffles
S'ils restent sur le bord?
Cet amour qui nous tord

Je vois derrière nous des morceaux de toi
Et ce que la douleur a fait de moi

Tout l'univers
Nos deux cœurs sous la terre
Au milieu des failles où tout éclate
Se trouver au point d'impact
Sans toi
Derrière mes paupières
Trouver de l'air

(Ah)
Tout l'univers
Nos deux cœurs sous la terre
Au milieu des failles et des ressacs
Nous nous retrouvons au point d'impact
Comment soigner nos coeurs qui éclatent?
Tout l'univers​

 

[fromzurichwithlove]

I hO

Yes fully Hi guys!

 

[Franzilein]

I don't see this winning either (even though it's currently comfortably sitting as my number 2), simply because of the fact that there has never been a winner in recent years which resembled its predecessor. I don't want to say Tout L'Univers is Arcade 2.0, because it's not, but it's hard to imagine a piano ballad winning two times in a row.

 

[Iker]

I don't see this winning either (even though it's currently comfortably sitting as my number 2), simply because of the fact that there has never been a winner in recent years which resembled its predecessor. I don't want to say Tout L'Univers is Arcade 2.0, because it's not, but it's hard to imagine a piano ballad winning two times in a row.

There was a year with no Eurovision though, so it will not be something that should influence that.

 

[Shadowfuxcs]

I don't see this winning either (even though it's currently comfortably sitting as my number 2), simply because of the fact that there has never been a winner in recent years which resembled its predecessor. I don't want to say Tout L'Univers is Arcade 2.0, because it's not, but it's hard to imagine a piano ballad winning two times in a row.

2002-2005 four female bops won in a row. Didn't really matter what genre the previous winner was.
And the staging has potential to be very different from Arcade's. When the most common criticism has nothing to do with the song itself but rather with an oversimplified correlation to a totally different song then you know there is a high winning chance. At the end of the day juries and viewers vote for what they like and not for the genre.

Also Luca Hani achieved a 200+ televoting result despite being accused as being the new Fuego. The televoting did not feel the need to punish Switzerland for being in a similar genre as a previously succesful entry and there is no reason to do it now. Especially when 2 years have passed this time around.

 

[fromzurichwithlove]

2002-2005 four female bops won in a row. Didn't really matter what genre the previous winner was.
And the staging has potential to be very different from Arcade's. When the most common criticism has nothing to do with the song itself but rather with an oversimplified correlation to a totally different song then you know there is a high winning chance. At the end of the day juries and viewers vote for what they like and not for the genre.

Also Luca Hani achieved a 200+ televoting result despite being accused as being the new Fuego. The televoting did not feel the need to punish Switzerland for being in a similar genre as a previously succesful entry and their is no reason to do it now. Especially when 2 years have passed this time around.

I fully agree with you

 

[Franzilein]

2002-2005 four female bops won in a row.

There has never been a winner in recent years which resembled its predecessor.

 

[Shadowfuxcs]

The years I mentioned are not really non-recent. Also from 2009-15 only mainstream pop songs won the contests and without the staging in mind you wouldn't call them all that different. Jamala Salvador and Netta had songs that were different from anything else on their year so it was not easy for the fans to draw comparisons between them and future entries. Was there anything remotely like "1944" in 2017 that could have won and missed out for resembling "1944"? Absolutely not. The winners were different due to lack of something similar. "Arcade" on the other hand is super mainstream. It is easier to draw comparison with other entries.
Therefore there is absolutely no proof that resembling the previous winner reduces your winning chance. See also the Fuego/Dirty dancing example from my previous post.
Another example: Sergey's staging and act was the most similar to the previous winner's in 2016. Still got 300+ televoting points. The voters don't care about the genre of the previous winner. It is just a weak argument made by eurofans to justify bashing an entry when everything else fails.

Also I will say again that from a musical perspective ""Arcade" and "Tout l'univers" are not even in the same genre. "It's a dude" and "it's a piano" are not valid musical arguments.

 

[HayashiM]

Why so many angry bashing the song? Even those one downgrading it because the others tells them they don't like... DUNCAN DID NOT EVENTED PIANO PERFORMANCES! Actually Gjon also almost won The Voice France, a lot of people think he should have. There you can see his performances on youtube and maybe stop fussing . This latest times, people are really mad about nothing... It's a little bit exhausting. A lot of views and opinions mixes musical genre to: duh it's just the same! It's another Arcade, it's a copy-cat! The two dudes don't look alike at all... And Gjon was existing before the ESC and already performing. I don't mean to upset anybody or tell you what to think. But the strenght of hatery of some of you is almost shocking. Calm down guys, like the songs you do and let everybody be happy with his favourite song.

It's an incredible song if you look at the music, professionals wouldn't dare to tell the opposite. And just to remind everybody, eurovision didn't started as the Vatican of thrashy pop. It was a song contest with expert listening to the artists and jugding them.

For a french speaker, Voilà is very beautiful for the music, but gosh the lyrics are soooo basic (not good, a children can write that lever of french)! And french is mother tongue so I know what I am telling you. Plus, there is a small controversy in France that tells that Barbara is also a copy-cat of two other artists. It's certainely the year of some copy-cats at the eurovision but this is definitvely not this poor young swiss-albanian dude! Let him be...

People have to move on with Duncan (ho gosh I could kiss him on his mouth though!). I found that the Netherlands was a great victory, was very happy for them. They deserved it.

I am pretty sure Gjon Tears will slay during his live performances at the second semi-final and get it all on the saturday 20th of May!

I hope he will have a burning piano in the middle of a gigantisc universe and that maybe he will make front to the public without his piano. Who know's? The EBU is not so stupid that he will make a Duncan Lawrence trend. Neither are the countries that sends the artists.

From Zürich with love!

P.S: In case we win the ESC 2021, Zürich is a slaughter-house for parties (and not everything is expensive if you know the right tricks!)... And it's already summer in May, or almost

Welcome to the forum!

I don't want to shame on Tout l'univers and I agree with most of what you wrote. However, I have to respectfully disagree with what you say about Voilà's lyrics.

It's certainly no Rimbaud, but I still find the meta approach where the lyrics describe (amongst others) the desired effect on the audience quite clever. It also expresses well the feelings of many artists who try to make their dreams happen but probably won't ever succeed. I think it's a fair warning about basing one's self-worth on other people's judgement, which is always a great risk in the world of artists.

Overall, I find Voilà's lyrics quite nuanced - it's definitely better that your average ESC entry in that aspect, depeer (lyrics wise) than all the Loco Locos, El Diablos, Sugars and Omagas, just to name a few.

 

[fromzurichwithlove]

Welcome to the forum!

I don't want to shame on Tout l'univers and I agree with most of what you wrote. However, I have to respectfully disagree with what you say about Voilà's lyrics.

It's certainly no Rimbaud, but I still find the meta approach where the lyrics describe (amongst others) the desired effect on the audience quite clever. It also expresses well the feelings of many artists who try to make their dreams happen but probably won't ever succeed. I think it's a fair warning about basing one's self-worth on other people's judgement, which is always a great risk in the world of artists.

Overall, I find Voilà's lyrics quite nuanced - it's definitely better that your average ESC entry in that aspect, depeer (lyrics wise) than all the Loco Locos, El Diablos, Sugars and Omagas, just to name a few.

I like voilà as well. It’s will ne my 12 point from Switzerland

 

[Iker]

I don't find 'Arcade' all that similar to 'Tout l'univers' - besides both being male ballads with some piano. They do have a very different vocal styles and the melodies are pretty different too.

 

[Franzilein]

The years I mentioned are not really non-recent. Also from 2009-15 only mainstream pop songs won the contests and without the staging in mind you wouldn't call them all that different. Jamala Salvador and Netta had songs that were different from anything else on their year so it was not easy for the fans to draw comparisons between them and future entries. Was there anything remotely like "1944" in 2017 that could have won and missed out for resembling "1944"? Absolutely not. The winners were different due to lack of something similar. "Arcade" on the other hand is super mainstream. It is easier to draw comparison with other entries.
Therefore there is absolutely no proof that resembling the previous winner reduces your winning chance. See also the Fuego/Dirty dancing example from my previous post.
Another example: Sergey's staging and act was the most similar to the previous winner's in 2016. Still got 300+ televoting points. The voters don't care about the genre of the previous winner. It is just a weak argument made by eurofans to justify bashing an entry when everything else fails.

Also I will say again that from a musical perspective ""Arcade" and "Tout l'univers" are not even in the same genre. "It's a dude" and "it's a piano" are not valid musical arguments.

They are almost two decades ago, how is this recent to you? What time frame I meant anyway is where you didn’t start with your argument: Heroes → 1944 → Amar Pelos Dois → Toy → Arcade. This is recent to me, and it’s just a trend I noticed. No idea why you get so defensive now, I said that Tout L’Univers is not an Arcade 2.0. But they are similar enough for me to say they would break that trend:

First strophe sung in low range with only piano accompaniment, an explosive chorus with compressed low piano chords but high, long stretched vocals and driving drums, a quiet end on the main melody theme – regarding the overall sound, they have more in common than the recent winners and your loosely labelled “mainstream pop songs” winners of 2009-2015 – which were distinctive enough. The Bondesque sound of Euphoria, just like Rise Like A Phoenix. The Avicii trademark of Country-Pop in Fairytale, really not that different to Heroes – wait, what.

I was also talking about winning, not finishing in the top 5, so your argument about Fuego and She Got Me or Heroes and You Are The Only One is kinda pointless (the latter also being quite confusing, first talking about staging, then genre); I’m pretty sure Gjon will end up there as well.
And I really hope so. Would be awesome to see Switzerland win again, last year was my favourite, this year they're my runners-up

Also also – what genre is Tout L’Univers?

 

[Gera11]

For a french speaker, Voilà is very beautiful for the music, but gosh the lyrics are soooo basic (not good, a children can write that lever of french)! And french is mother tongue so I know what I am telling you. Plus, there is a small controversy in France that tells that Barbara is also a copy-cat of two other artists.

Finally someone else who feels that way about her theatrics. Welcome to the forum!

 

[I bims]

Plus, there is a small controversy in France that tells that Barbara is also a copy-cat of two other artists.

Do you have an article or other source that talks about it? I would like to know more about that.

 

[gingerale]

For me the biggest difference is:

Switzerland is like "oh look it's 2021 and Eurovision is back" while France is "oh no it's another nostalgic Eurovision show but why is this in color and in HD?"

 

[Shadowfuxcs]

They are almost two decades ago, how is this recent to you? What time frame I meant anyway is where you didn’t start with your argument: Heroes → 1944 → Amar Pelos Dois → Toy → Arcade. This is recent to me, and it’s just a trend I noticed. No idea why you get so defensive now, I said that Tout L’Univers is not an Arcade 2.0. But they are similar enough for me to say they would break that trend:

First strophe sung in low range with only piano accompaniment, an explosive chorus with compressed low piano chords but high, long stretched vocals and driving drums, a quiet end on the main melody theme – regarding the overall sound, they have more in common than the recent winners and your loosely labelled “mainstream pop songs” winners of 2009-2015 – which were distinctive enough. The Bondesque sound of Euphoria, just like Rise Like A Phoenix. The Avicii trademark of Country-Pop in Fairytale, really not that different to Heroes – wait, what.

I was also talking about winning, not finishing in the top 5, so your argument about Fuego and She Got Me or Heroes and You Are The Only One is kinda pointless (the latter also being quite confusing, first talking about staging, then genre); I’m pretty sure Gjon will end up there as well.
And I really hope so. Would be awesome to see Switzerland win again, last year was my favourite, this year they're my runners-up

Also also – what genre is Tout L’Univers?

Which frontrunner was similar to "1944" in 2017 and missed out because of that similarity? Which frontrunner was "Amar pelos dois 2.0" in 2018? Which frontrunner was similar to "Toy" in 2019? There are simply no data to make this claim for the period you define as recent. You have to go before that and then it is clear that similar songs can have consecutive wins. There is no reason to think that the public and the juries had a spontaneous change of heart and decided to pick their favorites based on how disimilar they are from previous entries.
Fuego was the most impactful act of 2018, and Eleni was there for the interval act in Tel Aviv. Still the proclaimed "Fuego 2.0" from Switzerland did great in the televoting. Why are the viewers suddenly going to care about similarities this year? It is just tinfoil speculation.

 

[Franzilein]

Which frontrunner was similar to "1944" in 2017 and missed out because of that similarity? Which frontrunner was "Amar pelos dois 2.0" in 2018? Which frontrunner was similar to "Toy" in 2019? There are simply no data to make this claim for the period you define as recent. You have to go before that and then it is clear that similar songs can have consecutive wins. There is no reason to think that the public and the juries had a spontaneous change of heart and decided to pick their favorites based on how disimilar they are from previous entries.
Fuego was the most impactful act of 2018, and Eleni was there for the interval act in Tel Aviv. Still the proclaimed "Fuego 2.0" from Switzerland did great in the televoting. Why are the viewers suddenly going to care about similarities this year? It is just tinfoil speculation.

Yeah, that's fair – when you consider only front-runners. Female (ethnic) anti-war-ballads in 2017 were Georgia and Albania, but they were never really seen as potential winners, same with the toned-down songs like APD in 2018 where I'd consider Lithuania and Portugal for example.

I still don't see your examples from previous years as similar however, especially considering the instrumentation and overall structure which is so strikingly close for Arcade and Tout L'Univers, hence why people like to compare the two (again, it's not an Arcade 2.0). I'd rather compare songs like Euphoria and Glorious, with the latter ending up pretty much in the bottom despite being a fan-favourite.
EDIT: You still didn't answer my question what genre Tout L'Univers is by the way.

We're also still talking about winning. I did not claim Tout L'Univers to do badly. This is not the point of discussion here.

 

[empo21]

I think Switzerland will try to stage their song as different from Arcade's as possible. Sure Duncan didn't invent singing while playing a piano, but I'd also be put off if a country tried to emulate the previous winner in order to achieve success.

The 2 songs are different and have different types appeal - so the only thing similar could be the staging.

Overall, it is intreseting how each following winner of the last 5-6 years has been different than the other, but I don't think people specifically think "Last year we had a ballad win, i'll vote for a bop this year" before voting. I think it's a result of the previous year's influence overall.

 

[Franzilein]

Overall, it is intreseting how each following winner of the last 5-6 years has been different than the other, but I don't think people specifically think "Last year we had a ballad win, i'll vote for a bop this year" before voting. I think it's a result of the previous year's influence overall.

There's also the tradition of the previous winner performing as the opening act in the following year, so the viewers get even reminded what won the year before.
In the end people will vote for what they like anyway, but maybe it has an influence on them subconsciously Just speculating of course, but I'm really curious if Gjon manages to snatch home the win come May. A good placement seems to be a given.

 

[Preuss]

SJB is staging this one so I'm expecting something like Bulgaria 2017...

 

[kazool]

There's also the tradition of the previous winner performing as the opening act in the following year, so the viewers get even reminded what won the year before.
In the end people will vote for what they like anyway, but maybe it has an influence on them subconsciously Just speculating of course, but I'm really curious if Gjon manages to snatch home the win come May. A good placement seems to be a given.

What won two years before*.

I could partially agree... but recently the winning song has been performed as part of an opening show with other music/songs and a lot of visuals. Plus, if Switzerland goes to the final and picks the second half, who's gonna remember the opening after 13+ songs? Viewers will be over-stimulated and too focused on picking their favourite act. As it has been said, the staging will be crucial to distance himself from the accusations. Let us all remind that Sacha Aye-Aye Jean-Baptiste is in charge of the staging.