Russian Jury Voting

[Chorizo]

I don't think the Russian entry should be disqualified tbh. it's not Sergeys fault the Russian jury were about as professional as a group of 5 year olds. They should just replace the jury with a new one and discount their votes in the Russian jury votes in the semi.

The broadcaster is to blame. I think Sergey should be disqualified to encourage broadcasters to handle things more professionally from now on. Since Russia means more money than Romania (plus potential bribes), they will not do much about it, of course, and nothing will improve.

 

[nikolay_BG]

The broadcaster is to blame. I think Sergey should be disqualified to encourage broadcasters to handle things more professionally from now on. Since Russia means more money than Romania (plus potential bribes), they will not do much about it, of course, and nothing will improve.

You really hate Sergey do you. You will find every single reason to disqualify him. Like seriously, I think you want them to disqualify Sergey just because he breaths or some shit like that. That looks personal, rather than professional.

Taking a stupid joke out of context and making it sound serious wont make your statement very credible tbh.

You look like a hateful and pretentious drama queen. Take it or leave it, love it or hate it but you are a very irritating person and I can't take your statements with a clear mind. And yes, I am judging you.

 

[nikolay_BG]

Does anybody know what was the reaction in Russia?

 

[WhoKnows]

I don't think the Russian entry should be disqualified tbh. it's not Sergeys fault the Russian jury were about as professional as a group of 5 year olds. They should just replace the jury with a new one and discount their votes in the Russian jury votes in the semi.

Well, they disqualified Ovidiu Anton even though he had nothing to do with the channel's debts.

But yeah, I agree with you, Sergey shouldn't be disqualified.

 

[nikolay_BG]

They didn't disqualify Ovidiu Anton for jury results people. These are 2 different cases.

 

[WhoKnows]

They didn't disqualify Ovidiu Anton for jury results people. These are 2 different cases.

Obviously not. I was just saying how in both cases the artist had nothing to do with it. Get a grip.

 

[Sammy]

Anybody knows about a reaction of the EBU? It was said to be this afternoon. But I doubt they'll do anything serious right before the semifinal.

 

[nikolay_BG]

Anybody knows about a reaction of the EBU? It was said to be this afternoon. But I doubt they'll do anything serious right before the semifinal.

They will probably do nothing as always.

I am kinda curious of the reaction in Russia itself and more precisely what do Russian people think about this.

 

[Sammy]

They will probably do nothing as always.

I am kinda curious of the reaction in Russia itself and more precisely what do Russian people think about this.

Well the average russian will concentrate on Sergeys performance and will less care about this story. If so, we will most likely hear that it was a minor issue pushed by western media....

 

[nikolay_BG]

Well the average russian will concentrate on Sergeys performance and will less care about this story. If so, we will most likely hear that it was a minor issue pushed by western media....

I actually disagree with that. A typical Russian would judge the fuck out of Stotskaya.

 

[Brandt]

Obviously not. I was just saying how in both cases the artist had nothing to do with it. Get a grip.

Ovidiu's participation can directly be related with the broadcaster. Voting progress could be too complicated and Romania doesn't even have a right to broadcast, how can they vote? There is always a chance that Romania could win unexpectedly and therefore it would bring much more dramas etc.

 

[WhoKnows]

I wonder if commentators today and/or Saturday will mention this during the telecast?

 

[Sammy]

I actually disagree with that. A typical Russian would judge the fuck out of Stotskaya.

I don't know about typical Russians, and I don't know their attitude towards Stotskaya, so I can't really respond to this. But if there will be a comment in the days to come that is like the one I presumed, you may think of me.

 

[nikolay_BG]

I don't know about typical Russians, and I don't know their attitude towards Stotskaya, so I can't really respond to this. But if there will be a comment in the days to come that is like the one I presumed, you may think of me.

I don't care about articles but what Russian people think. Till now I saw only one article in an Azerbaijani website but it was just a report and not a commentary.

 

[Charly]

Russian entry has nothing to do with juries. They are two completely different matters.

Excluding Russian jury votes? Cool.
Excluding Russian entry? Not at all in all unfairness.

I'm not saying the Russian entry will be disqualified, i'm just clarifying to others it will not be

The rest of the unfinished quote, I said EBU will be doing the pre-group voting for Russia in terms of the jury results since the jury votes for Russia is invalid due to rule violations!

 

[nikolay_BG]

I am browsing right now in the biggest ESC community in vkontakte (the Russian facebook) and the comments aren't really pretty.

 

[Brandt]

I'm not saying the Russian entry will be disqualified, i'm just clarifying to others it will not be

The rest of the unfinished quote, I said EBU will be doing the pre-group voting for Russia in terms of the jury results since the jury votes for Russia is invalid due to rule violations!

Oh sorry, I have read it as Russia may be disqualified.

 

[Chorizo]

You really hate Sergey do you. You will find every single reason to disqualify him. Like seriously, I think you want them to disqualify Sergey just because he breaths or some shit like that. That looks personal, rather than professional.

Taking a stupid joke out of context and making it sound serious wont make your statement very credible tbh.

You look like a hateful and pretentious drama queen. Take it or leave it, love it or hate it but you are a very irritating person and I can't take your statements with a clear mind. And yes, I am judging you.

And you defend Russia no matter what they do and keep attacking me personally. That doesn't add any credibility to your posts. You are just one of Sergey's brainless fanboys.

If only the jury is disqualified, nothing about the way the juries vote will change. If Russia gets a new jury for the grand final, they will vote the same way. The only difference will be that they won't broadcast it on Periscope again. Nothing will change this way. Disqualifying juries has already been done in the past and it hasn't changed anything.
If we want a better system, there needs to be decisive action.

 

[nikolay_BG]

BTW, I dunno if it's important but Anastasiya Stotskaya is Ukrainian, born in Kiev. I couldn't find information if her husband is really Armenian tbh.

 

[tuorem]

Well, they disqualified Ovidiu Anton even though he had nothing to do with the channel's debts.

But yeah, I agree with you, Sergey shouldn't be disqualified.

Ovidiu couldn't participate because TVR has lost its EBU's membership, so he became stateless, and one cannot take part if one doesn't represent a country.

In Russia's case, I highly doubt this rule violation is considered serious enough to kick the whole delegation out. The 5 jurors need to go, but the Russian broadcaster, as well as the rest of the Russian team, have been complying with the rules as far as we know.

One shouldn't aim at the wrong target: disqualifying an act for that matter is not a goal in itself, the EBU must compel juries to respect the rules by other means, they should take the necessary measures to achieve that and prevent misbehaviors instead of resorting to the mean and nasty temporary disqualification of a country. Russians have been caught, but others may act the same way... so, this shows that the procedure should be deeply reformed to re-establish impartiality and professionalism.

Those people haven't been invited to a Sausage Fair, they have a job to do and they're expected to take it seriously. It's up to the EBU to enforce its own rules.