Portugal PORTUGAL 2025 - Napa - Deslocado

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[goncalovieira]

Let me just share with you this scary episode... I am taking the train from Porto to Lisbon and there is a couple of youngsters talking about Fernando Daniel and how his music is great.
Please, god. Save us.

 

[i anixi]

Who cares about nails when last year a flamingo won (and rightly so, I should add!) ?

 

[Decayingbooks]

I've always loved certainty and confidence! I sure hope so. In any case, we have to keep our feet on the ground and vote for Josh. Even though he's not 100% my favorite, all my votes will go to him, if he's good live (which I have no doubts about).

Fuck that! And after reading a previous comment, I'm more team Henka than ever! I will support her until the bitter end!
Visca Henka manque pierda!!!

 

[JSSArcos]

Fuck that! And knowing that RTP has actually fixed things for Josh to win I'm more team Henka than ever I will be with her until the bitter end! Visca Henka manque pierda!!!

I don't think RTP has fixed this for Josh. If it were for anyone, it would be for Fernando Daniel.

But I don't believe RTP would do this

whoever wins will be on merit

 

[Decayingbooks]

I don't think RTP has fixed this for Josh. If it were for anyone, it would be for Fernando Daniel.

But I don't believe RTP would do this

whoever wins will be on merit

Bah!
And there I was wondering why basically everyone on semi 1 was alone on stage... I pitty Henka for spending money hiring people for her performance... And she will have to fly them from the UK to Portugal! They really screwed her... No wonder that the choreographer tried his luck with Bobbi Arlo...

 

[Decayingbooks]

Anyway, changing subjects...
I think it's great that an artists like Napa is getting the commercial sucess that they are having.
National finals and eurovision should aim to be a showcase of the best music in europe and a way to promote artists across the world, because only one artist can win, but everybody wins if people continue to listen to their music and going to their shows.
Rosa Linn, Armenia 2022, is also a great example that regardless of what position you get in the scoreboard, what really matters is that people keep listening to their favortie songs and I really hope that we get more examples like Rosa Linn in the future.

 

[rasmuslights]

I don't know why the jury wouldn't support NAPA. The vocals are really good and special, and the instrumental is very rich and full of little details + apparently, it has good lyrics and meaning.

I think people are discrediting it just because it isn't very eurovision-y.

 

[crals]

NAPA's song is not bad, but lyrics are the central component in it, and no one would understand them at ESC. A big part of its appeal would be lost in that context, so it's understandable that people don't want it in ESC. Unfortunately, FdC is not Sanremo and they won't have the chance to pass on ESC if they win.

 

[Decayingbooks]

I don't know why the jury wouldn't support NAPA. The vocals are really good and special, and the instrumental is very rich and full of little details + apparently, it has good lyrics and meaning.

I think people are discrediting it just because it isn't very eurovision-y.

crals pointed one very important thing, the focus of Napa's song are the lyrics, so at the end of the day it will depend on what the judges will be voting for. If the point is to choose the best song in the nf they could support Napa, but if the point is to choose the best song for Eurovision Napa is a bad choice because people in europe won't understand the message and they lack typicall esc florishes of showing how great their vocals are and having a explosive apotheosis.
Altough one thing they do have is a lot of similarities with previous portuguese entries, particularly the storytelling and the fade out at the end of the song, I think Mimicat was the only entry between 2017 and 2024 to not have a fade out after the climax of the song.

 

[goncalovieira]

I don't know why the jury wouldn't support NAPA. The vocals are really good and special, and the instrumental is very rich and full of little details + apparently, it has good lyrics and meaning.

I think people are discrediting it just because it isn't very eurovision-y.

The main goal of FDC is sending the best possible song for Eurovision.
I really do not see how they can be favorites.

 

[goncalovieira]

NAPA's song is not bad, but lyrics are the central component in it, and no one would understand them at ESC. A big part of its appeal would be lost in that context, so it's understandable that people don't want it in ESC. Unfortunately, FdC is not Sanremo and they won't have the chance to pass on ESC if they win.

I can not see RTP letting them win. But let's see how it flows.... Josh has the potential to create a big peak of hype just before the other favorites.

 

[Decayingbooks]

The main goal of FDC is sending the best possible song for Eurovision.
I really do not see how they can be favorites.

That is the idea and Portugal, along with Sweden, has the benefit or knowing who they're competing against, but can you really say that the judges actually vote in the best song for Eurovision?
They are the only reason why Portugal won in 2017 and got a top 10 in 2024, but they aren't infalible, afterall they tought that Carolina Deslandes was the best option in 2021 and Filipe Sambado in 2020... And yes, Elisa would have totally nq, but there was something special about her and the song and I still believe that she was the right winner.

 

[Decayingbooks]

They just announced the judges of the semifinals:

iolanda
Fábia Rebordão (FdC2022 - composer of "Pontas Soltas")
Kady (FdC 2020)
Margarida Pinto Correia
Martim Sousa Tavares
Miguel Ribeiro (FdC 2023 - member of the band "The Happy Mess")
Tiago Nacarato (FdC2020 - composer of "Passe-Partout")

 

[Dark]

I highly doubt that RTP wants to influence any results. What I do believe is that the jury is aware of which songs are being talked about the most and tries to push them up so that the public stays happy. At the moment, the most talked-about songs are from Napa and Fernando Daniel (among the general public), so it's unlikely that they will be pushed down. Even if Josh wins the jury vote the other two will still receive high scores from the jury, and as long as they win the public vote, they will be selected. But everything can change after this semi-final with Josh's performance.

 

[mercachita]

I highly doubt that RTP wants to influence any results. What I do believe is that the jury is aware of which songs are being talked about the most and tries to push them up so that the public stays happy. At the moment, the most talked-about songs are from Napa and Fernando Daniel (among the general public), so it's unlikely that they will be pushed down. Even if Josh wins the jury vote the other two will still receive high scores from the jury, and as long as they win the public vote, they will be selected. But everything can change after this semi-final with Josh's performance.

I don't think Fernando is getting that much attention. His song is only being talked about because of his fans and his weight in the music industry here. The ones that really are more talked about are Napa, Henka and Josh. There's none like those three.

 

[JSSArcos]

As I said, since 2017, the choices have been very good. The jury knows what they are doing.
The jury chose Mimicat, Maro, Carolina, Filipe Sambado, Conan, Catarina Miranda, and Salvador Sobral.
The Black Mamba, Elisa, and Cláudia Pascoal finished in 2nd place, but they were all highly rated by the jury.

So, 4/7 = 57% of the jury winners won Festival da Canção.
7/7 = 100% of the jury’s top 2 ended up winning.

Anyone who looks into our jury will see that they understand music. Most of them work in the industry. Their choices are well-founded, which is why most of our songs have done well with the Eurovision jury. If RTP wanted to influence the results, the voting patterns would be different. There have been "in-house" artists who didn’t win, famous artists who could have brought in more viewers but were not favored.

Conan didn’t qualify because of his staging (which was beyond terrible). Jardim suffered a bit because it was the host country’s song, but a Q in a weak year was totally possible.

We’re left speculating about 2020, although it was the weakest song in the 2017-2024 period.

Aside from those three years, the Festival da Canção winner has been a "jury success".

So, given this year’s quality, the 12/10 points from the Portuguese jury will be well received by the Eurovision jury (whether it's Josh, Napa, Diana, etc...).
Now, to reach the final, we need them to secure televote support, and here’s my prediction (among the favorites):

Q safe – Josh, Henka, Peculiar
Borderline – Fernando Daniel, Xico Gaiato, Diana
NQ – Capital da Bulgária, Cantadeira, Napa
Henka is the only one I believe will have more televote support than jury support (which is historically unusual).

 

[Decayingbooks]

I would like to emphasize, again, that Portugal, as does Sweden, has like two days to submit all the info regarding their entry to EBU, so let's keep in mind that the winner should have an eurovision ready package.

 

[Decayingbooks]

One interesting fact, that I just found out in the official podcast of Festival da Canção.
Margarida Campelo's mother, Isabel Campelo, has participated in Festival in 3 separate ocassions: 1992 with "Boa Noite Tristeza", 1993 with "Praia Sem Marés" and 1994 with "Malmequer do Campo".

 

[goncalovieira]

So, semi-final-1 broadcast will take 2h45. (21h08 - 23h53) Lisbon time.

 

[Ana Raquel]

Devastated I won't be able to vote this time I will only arrive in Lisbon the week after FDC.