Malmö is hosting ESC 2013

[anto475]

Yeah, but the majority of viewers don't understand this and will be left bewildered at how the entrant who sounded like a strangled cat is beating their song.

Sure they'll probably just blame bloc voting and write angrily into a tabloid and then forget about the Eurovision for another year. The national broadcasters know the reason for the jury voting at the rehearsal and it's ultimately up to them to decide a country's participation anyway.

 

[VikingTiger]

Yeah, but the majority of viewers don't understand this and will be left bewildered at how the entrant who sounded like a strangled cat is beating their song.

The strangled cats has tended to be left in the semifinals ultimately... Bad vocalists often seem to be punished harder by the juries than by the televoters, and the juries tend to reward good vocals more than the televoters (even though this is not always the case, I admit that).

 

[A-lister]

The strangled cats has tended to be left in the semifinals ultimately... Bad vocalists often seem to be punished harder by the juries than by the televoters, and the juries tend to reward good vocals more than the televoters (even though this is not always the case, I admit that).

The juries are taking it to the extremes though, they forget that this is a song contest and seem totally occupied with judging vocals, when they should firstly be judging the songs. This is not European Idol or The Voice of Europe.

 

[DanielLuis]

You are missing the point!The juries vote in the dress rehearsal because there's no way they would all be able to vote, and then count the jury votes, and the televotes, and then add them all together in just 15 minutes...
That's why the juries vote on the previous day.

 

[LalehForWD]

The strangled cats has tended to be left in the semifinals ultimately... Bad vocalists often seem to be punished harder by the juries than by the televoters, and the juries tend to reward good vocals more than the televoters (even though this is not always the case, I admit that).

And rightfully so!! Bad vocalists are just plain bad.

 

[Matt]

ESC financial crisis on CNN

ESC Financial Crisis on CNN | escforums – catch the Eurovision wave!

 

[NeonProject]

ESC financial crisis on CNN

ESC Financial Crisis on CNN | escforums – catch the Eurovision wave!

Why is it whenever Eurovision hits the news it's always highlighted in such an ignorant way? The Olympics has embarrassing mishaps but because it's generally accepted it is usually championed... where as people seem to just like scoffing at ESC when (especially recently) the stuff to scoff at has been in the minority of the contest! :/
It really shouldn't bother me like it does.

 

[DanielLuis]

Why is it whenever Eurovision hits the news it's always highlighted in such an ignorant way? The Olympics has embarrassing mishaps but because it's generally accepted it is usually championed... where as people seem to just like scoffing at ESC when (especially recently) the stuff to scoff at has been in the minority of the contest! :/
It really shouldn't bother me like it does.

Oh dont worry it freaking bothers me as awell as every esc fan out there.

 

[Matt]

Why is it whenever Eurovision hits the news it's always highlighted in such an ignorant way? The Olympics has embarrassing mishaps but because it's generally accepted it is usually championed... where as people seem to just like scoffing at ESC when (especially recently) the stuff to scoff at has been in the minority of the contest! :/
It really shouldn't bother me like it does.

I know, right? Like Dustin the Turkey is the norm.....sigh.....

 

[VikingTiger]

Well, bad news is better than no news.... I am sure that the Eurovision is not mentioned in the US media on a daily basis...

 

[NeonProject]

Well, bad news is better than no news.... I am sure that the Eurovision is not mentioned in the US media on a daily basis...

To be honest I don't see why they bothered reporting it in the first place. Especially considering the tone of the article I'd say it was just to laugh at Europe :/

 

[Impressive]

I have just a question... Why this year songs became to released very early? I remember last year in December, we only knew Switzerland's song, didn't we? Isn't December very early date? :? I think best times are between Feb and April. Why so early?

 

[DanielLuis]

I have just a question... Why this year songs became to released very early? I remember last year in December, we only knew Switzerland's song, didn't we? Isn't December very early date? :? I think best times are between Feb and April. Why so early?

March is the deadline to send entries, but yeah, I agree February and March are the best times.

 

[LalehForWD]

Region Skåne reveal creative school competition - Children of Europe

Schoolchildren in Skåne will participate in Eurovision by expressing their views of the Future of Europe. It could be short films, pictures and short texts. Some will be printed on busses in Malmö and some will be presented at Eurovision Song Contest.

 

[A-lister]

This make zero sense to me:

SVT: Lowering the cost a priority for the survival of Eurovision | esctoday.com | your daily eurovision centre

I mean, they lower the costs for the production (= make a cheaper ESC for viewers), in the meantime the fees for entering have risen... where's the logic? Rise the broadcasters' fees - Lowering the production costs =

So where does all the extra earned money go then? My guess is it's going right into the pockets of EBU and SVT officials then...

I mean, I'm actually for lowering the costs if the point is genuinely to make ESC more affordable to enter and host, but since the fees have been risen aswell I see zero logic in this and all I read is just fancy hypocrisy. I mean hello, we got atleast 3 withdrawals with the motivation of too high fees already!! So really, what the heck is going on here with the fee money if it's not going into the contest?

 

[Matt]

To be fair, the increased fees are something the EBU did and while I agree it's silly to raise them I don't think it's hypocrisy on SVT's part.

 

[A-lister]

To be fair, the increased fees are something the EBU did and while I agree it's silly to raise them I don't think it's hypocrisy on SVT's part.

Well, since part of the fees are paying for the contest, and the cost for the production has been lowered, I don't think one can separate the two although I do get your point.

 

[VikingTiger]

The costs of organizing the ESC HAS to come down! What on earth happens the day Valentina actually wins for San Marino? Do we expect the 31 500 people of San Marino to share the bill of the costs? Or the 300 000 people of Iceland? Same thing with lots of countries in Europe these days. The cost would just be too high for many broadcasters!!!
If we want a large number of countries to take part, and actually send entries they believe can fight for the trophy, we need to bring the costs down for the hosts.
I am very happy with SVT when it comes to this decision!
The member fees are a different matter, actually.

 

[A-lister]

^
The member fees are not a different matter since part of those are contributing to the production of ESC, so rising the member fees and in the meantime lowering the costs of ESC makes one wonder where the h*ll the extra cash goes?

And actually, the member fee issue is the main problem here with countries dropping out one after the other, while there's no rule on how much the actual show would have to cost the broadcasters... so no, it doesn't make sense because if for instance San Marino would host it they're not forced to spend as much as for instance Russia or Azerbaijan did, but they too can use some of what EBU gets in with the risen membership fees though.

So no, I don't agree. This is just SVT wanting to be cheap, and that's up to them, but where does the extra membership fees income go then one can wonder (if it's not used for ESC)?

 

[VikingTiger]

The member fees is of course an issue. And I want them to be kept low. But that does not keep me from seing the problem with the way over the top spendings for the shows in particularly Moscow and Baku.
Since I havent seen the EBU's total budget and spendings I dont know exactly where the "extra money" goes, but I am NOT just assuming it's going into the pockets of some corrupt rich people....