EdvinasLTU
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Re: LITHUANIA 2013
Saulės Broliai - „Loreen"
Saulės Broliai - „Loreen"
Saules Briolai - Loreen
First of all, I really like his voice, because it suits a cute song like this one perfectly! Another thing that I really like is the stage performance. In songs like "Loreen" there's a big danger of overreacting on stage, but these guys aren't. They are being funny in a very simple, yet charming way. And "charming" is a word that I could use if I had to describe the song (and performance) with only one word. I don't think that it's a winner though, but it's really good! It's one of the most cheer-up songs I've ever heard in ESC preselections and that IS a good thing. Of course, it has some flaws as well - the biggest are some parts of the lyrics. This song would be even more charming if they changed the lyrics a little bit. I mean, "Loreen, I wanna be your son". Really? Aren't you a little bit too old? They could easily change the theme and make it something like "I want to be your husband" or "I want to marry you" or "Would you go out with me", I don't know, but there are really plenty other options.
8.5/10 = 2nd place
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Hmm most contemporary acts (especially in ESC) doesn't write their own music? I mean look at Loreen for instance, she didn't have any creative input in 'Euphoria', so not sure what you're trying to say?
What I mean is: If Vincentas Linkevicius really is the talant behind the song, he deserves all support he can get. If he's not, it's just forgettable.
Oh Loreen didn't write but produced Euphoria pretty much in every detail. She also had a clear artist identity before entering Melodifestivalen. What I mean is: If Vincentas Linkevicius really is the talent behind the song, he deserves all support he can get. If he's not, it's just forgettable.
I always support singers that write their songs by themselves, but we shouldn't judge / rate the song differently because of that. It's true, it can be easier for singers to identify with the song and to put emotions into the performance, but the song is still the same. We can give the singers kudos for songwriting, but in the end, it doesn't really matter who's the author. What matters the most is whether the song is good or not.
And I don't think that the common viewers really notice such things anyway ...
Vincentas Linkevičius song ''Dance The Night'' music wrote Mindaugas Lapinskas, and text wrote Eglė Petrošiūtė. So it is not written by him.I always support singers that write their songs by themselves
Sorry to disappoint but Loreen is not a writer, producer nor composer of 'Euphoria'. I don't doubt her talent and that the is visually artistic though, but she's not by any means the brain behind that song in particular. However she did in fact contribute to the majority of the songs on her debut album, so without a doubt she is a creative force, just not when it comes to that song alone.
Well, I tend to personally separate artists from performers or singers, and I guess we agree here if I got your comment correctly. To me an artist need to be a part of the creative process, not just performing or singing songs made by others. I mean anyone could do the latter, but artistry for me is to actually create something. But I also agree with Kryptonite that in the end of the day what's important is the song, if it's good it's good regardless of who created it, and if it's bad it's bad regardless. An artist creating bad songs is not really better than a singer/performer performing a good song.
So if you pick on signers/performers not performing their own stuff in ESC, then unfortunately that would be the majority of the entrants then, and if that's what needed to like the songs then there's not many songs left to like in this contest
But for me it is important. You hear a song in association to Eurovision and think: Well, that was pretty good. Then you hear it live with the artist and he/she ruins it completely. What do you do? Ditch him/her immediately or tries to see the positive, hoping for another chance? I need something to convince myself to continue supporting the artist.
Outside Eurovision there are other rules however!
Precisely! And the question here was despite a terrible performance, does he deserve continue support?
But with Euphoria you are wrong. Official producers are Peter Boström and SeventyEight, but Loreen have told the story how the song was transformed from a rather average schlager song to what it became. She (and many others) is part of every bit of it. On top of that we have the visual appearance for which in Euphoria's case is at least equal in importance as the song production. She was given a song, she took it and transformed it to something she could perform as part of her artistry.
But for me it is important. You hear a song in association to Eurovision and think: Well, that was pretty good. Then you hear it live with the artist and he/she ruins it completely. What do you do? Ditch him/her immediately or tries to see the positive, hoping for another chance? I need something to convince myself to continue supporting the artist.
I thought you talked about input and not the performance? I'm a bit confused now
Look, no artist 'sell' their work for free, if she in fact had an input in the writing or production, she would be credited like on those other songs on her album where her name is actually attached, afterall that's where the money is and also that's where the integrity is as an artist, you just don't give away your input for free and give all credit to others.
As for visuals, I never questioned her talent as a visual artist (and of course she's a great vocalist aswell), but even the visuals and performance had its own choreographer and design team behind it.