Contact us

Italy ITALY 2015 - Il Volo - Grande amore

How do you like the entry?

  • 12

    164 40.3%
  • 10

    47 11.5%
  • 8

    39 9.6%
  • 7

    27 6.6%
  • 6

    26 6.4%
  • 5

    19 4.7%
  • 4

    9 2.2%
  • 3

    9 2.2%
  • 2

    4 1.0%
  • 1

    20 4.9%
  • 0

    43 10.6%

  • Total voters
    407

Pawhlen

Active member
Joined
June 9, 2013
Posts
2,980
Location
Eksjö
I really hope that RAI will take the arrangement more seriously next year if :it: win. The 1991 edition is one of the worst arranged ESC in the history sadly
 

Krishoes

Well-known member
Joined
May 4, 2013
Posts
6,054
Location
Italy
I really hope that RAI will take the arrangement seriously next year if :it: win. The 1991 edition is one of the worst arranged ESC in the history sadly

What a shame that edition. You can say that is absolutely the WORST one in the history of Eurovision!!! Luckily times are changed since 1991 and now the EBU help the tv broadcaster to realize a good Eurovision
 

Chorizo

Well-known member
Joined
May 9, 2014
Posts
4,346
I have to say I‘m really worried by the prospect of Italy winning because I have a very hard time imagining that Italy could hold a decent contest.

Some people here think that Italy would try to make up for the disaster of 1991 but the fact that Denmark was able to organize a fantastic Eurovision in 2014 doesn’t mean that Italy could do the same.

In Italy, the contest isn’t popular, the country doesn’t have money and Italy is not a small country that gets only little attention internationally and that therefore would see the show as a huge opportunity to get international attention.

Countries like Estonia and Slovenia are small and would struggle with the cost of Eurovision but being able to hold the contest and to advertise their countries throughout the world would mean a lot to them, so they would surely put much effort into it.

I think Italy would turn Eurovision into Sanremo, which is a lot like Eurovision used to be in the olden days. I don’t think Italy could hold a modern Eurovision and bring the contest forward in any way.

Furthermore, Italy isn’t really known for being able to organize anything. Sorry, if anyone is offended now but that’s just how it is. I’m not just referring to clichés here. All you need to do is to go to Rome and to check out the public transportation there. If the situation can be like this even in the Italian capital, you just have to be skeptical. And what’s up with all those clocks in the streets of Rome that don’t work and show the wrong time? But I digress… :lol:

The only reason for hope I can see here is that Rome wants to hold the Olympic Games and they might see Eurovision as a way to demonstrate that they can actually organize an international event. If they couldn’t even handle Eurovision, how could they possible organize Olympic Games?

Well, I think they're not going to win anyway but this year the contest doesn’t have a clear favorite and who knows who will end up winning? Among the current favorites, I think everyone else is more likely to hold a decent contest in 2016, though.
 

Krishoes

Well-known member
Joined
May 4, 2013
Posts
6,054
Location
Italy
I have to say I‘m really worried by the prospect of Italy winning because I have a very hard time imagining that Italy could hold a decent contest. (...) Among the current favorites, I think everyone else is more likely to hold a decent contest in 2016, though.

RAI is one of the Europe national public broadcasting company with more professionalism and tv productions to be envied. If we'll decide to organize it, we'd be certainly not out of place. Today there are different rules and a direct correspondence with the EBU.

RAI manages to make the Ariston stage (a little hole!) look like a big stage. The opening ceremonies of many Olympics Games (especially the next in Brasil) are cured by italians. We are among the non-US countries most awarded with Oscars for Best Production Design. If we want we can do important things (of course we need continous controls... but fortunately the EBU oversees everything).

For example, the lights of the Eurovision 2013 in Malmö were cured by Clay Paky, one of the world's leading developers of professional lighting systems for the entertainment sector and for architectural applications. The company is based near Bergamo, about 40 km from Milan.

Italy has the monopoly of the organization of all the great shows that we can see on TV, and many people not even know that behind them there are italian brains working from Italy.

During the 2013 Men's European Volleyball Championship in Denmark the stadium was totally blind the evening of the final.

The Polish tv during the 2014 FIVB Volleyball Men's World Championship for the whole damn event failed to transmit audio and video in sync.

In the Olympics Games 2014 in Sochi accommodation for atheltes were not completed and during the London ones in 2012 the stands in the stadium were half-empty during the first week.

The stage of the Eurovision 2014 in Copenaghen was wonderful, the best ever in my opinion, but ot ouf the arena the organization, especially for public transports, has been disastrous.

We don't need to build arenas, making roads, reclaim islands or pave neighborhoods.

Italy has already arenas capable of hosting mega musical events (three dates of the next tour of Madonna in Turin, for example, or the next MTV Ema's in Milan) and with a transport system innovative and accurate (Rome has big problems on its own and for this reason it wouldn't be the host city).
 

Pawhlen

Active member
Joined
June 9, 2013
Posts
2,980
Location
Eksjö
I´m pretty sure RAI can handle it well, I mean the Olympics were well arranged back in Torino 2006
 

Chorizo

Well-known member
Joined
May 9, 2014
Posts
4,346
Italy has already arenas capable of hosting mega musical events (three dates of the next tour of Madonna in Turin, for example, or the next MTV Ema's in Milan) and with a transport system innovative and accurate (Rome has big problems on its own and for this reason it wouldn't be the host city).

Okay, so let’s assume RAI could hold a decent Eurovision in Milan or somewhere else in Northern Italy provided the EBU checks on what they’re doing and makes sure things go the right way.
This still makes me wonder how much money they would actually be willing and able to spend and how big they really would want to go. I would also expect a contest in Italy to be much more conservative, or classic, if you prefer, compared to, let’s say, Sweden.
Do you have any specific expectations regarding what direction they would take the contest? Do you think they would integrate the gay fans in Italy like they did in the last two years?
 

Krishoes

Well-known member
Joined
May 4, 2013
Posts
6,054
Location
Italy
Do you have any specific expectations regarding what direction they would take the contest? Do you think they would integrate the gay fans in Italy like they did in the last two years?

Many think that Sanremo is a competition for conservative families but is much more gay than it is believed. Maybe it does not seem so, but the hard fanbase of Sanremo is actually gay. :mrgreen:

In any case... I do not understand the link between the integration of gays and the organization of the stage, transport and event. Apart from the side event of marriages between persons of the same sex what can be considered as "gay" in the Eurovision?

Fanbase of course. But we don't have signs to prohibit entrance of gay people in clubs, arenas or public places
Maybe some exhibitions? We have several openly gay characters on italian TV since many years

What is the point?
 

Chorizo

Well-known member
Joined
May 9, 2014
Posts
4,346
Many think that Sanremo is a competition for conservative families but is much more gay than it is believed. Maybe it does not seem so, but the hard fanbase of Sanremo is actually gay. :mrgreen:

In any case... I do not understand the link between the integration of gays and the organization of the stage, transport and event. Apart from the side event of marriages between persons of the same sex what can be considered as "gay" in the Eurovision?

Fanbase of course. But we don't have signs to prohibit entrance of gay people in clubs, arenas or public places
Maybe some exhibitions? We have several openly gay characters on italian TV since many years

What is the point?

I was wondering about two different things. On the one hand about the technical and organizational aspects regarding the venue and the host city and on the other hand about the creative direction of the show. Eurovision can feel quite different depending on the host nation and Italy is socially much more conservative than Sweden, for example.
I will just keep using Sweden as a positive example here. See, [MENTION=14000]SuperGirl[/MENTION]? :mrgreen:
 

Krishoes

Well-known member
Joined
May 4, 2013
Posts
6,054
Location
Italy
Sucof, why so many aggressive words full of resentment? Austria has its importance, historical and musical first of all, and I'm sure they will organize a big Eurovision. We are here not to create racist battles and everybody can have their opinion... :?
 

sucof

Well-known member
Joined
May 17, 2013
Posts
1,140
I was wondering about two different things. On the one hand about the technical and organizational aspects regarding the venue and the host city and on the other hand about the creative direction of the show. Eurovision can feel quite different depending on the host nation and Italy is socially much more conservative than Sweden, for example.
I will just keep using Sweden as a positive example here. See, [MENTION=14000]SuperGirl[/MENTION]? :mrgreen:

You remember Jorg Haider? silence please!
 

Pawhlen

Active member
Joined
June 9, 2013
Posts
2,980
Location
Eksjö
I was wondering about two different things. On the one hand about the technical and organizational aspects regarding the venue and the host city and on the other hand about the creative direction of the show. Eurovision can feel quite different depending on the host nation and Italy is socially much more conservative than Sweden, for example.
I will just keep using Sweden as a positive example here. See, [MENTION=14000]SuperGirl[/MENTION]? :mrgreen:
There are no rules on that the competition shall be arranged in a specific way, it´s all up to the broadcaster to decide that ;)
 

sucof

Well-known member
Joined
May 17, 2013
Posts
1,140
Sucof, why so many aggressive words full of resentment? Austria has its importance, historical and musical first of all, and I'm sure they will organize a big Eurovision. We are here to create racist battles and everybody can have their opinion... :?

you said well, only historical! for the rest, it's a small country that has a GDP insignificant and that a quarter of the Italy!
 

Chorizo

Well-known member
Joined
May 9, 2014
Posts
4,346
You are a troll? OMG

I have no words for how much ignorance and stereotypes you wrote!
You know that RAI is the second player after the BBC television audience in Europe as greatness? and the first in Europe to audience between the public TV ?
You believe that the ORF (a dwarf in comparison to the Rai) is able to organize a big event alone? I remind you that the eurovision and produced by EBU also putting the most money!The orf is too small by itself to organize the eurovision alone
RAI is the second contributor of EBU! ignorant
You know that the organization of the ceremonies in Turin, Beijing, the World Cup in Brazil etc ... are organized by a Italian company in Turin?
The austria organizes what? the exhibition of wurstel??

The Austrian TV programs are on par as an organization to our TV sets and private regional of the most poor!
The seventh economy in the world who takes lessons from an insignificant country Austria, the dog of Germany!

You are a child with a problem of the mind? I suggest if you want to make a good impression not to say more this words!

Oh my! You seem quite emotional for an Italian. :p
;)
 

Chorizo

Well-known member
Joined
May 9, 2014
Posts
4,346
There are no rules on that the competition shall be arranged in a specific way, it´s all up to the broadcaster to decide that ;)

Hence my concerns. ;)
 

Catia

Member
Joined
December 3, 2014
Posts
157
Location
Oporto
Why wasting their precious time in Amsterdam, when they can meet people like him? xlove xlove xlove xlove xlove xlove xlove
Ignazio why you're so cute man? I can't control my fangirling mood :lol: :lol: :lol:

b67gqu.jpg
 

drago120

Member
Joined
May 17, 2011
Posts
94
Location
La Spezia (Liguria)
1991 was not a good organization by Rai .
Rai wasn't very happy to organize it and remember that unfortunately the Gulf War did change the venue from SanRemo in Rome and this caused many delays and disorganization.
Recalling that in the early 90's, in Italy, English wasn't considered important as opposed to today (not to me :p:p :rolleyes: )

If one day the eurovision return to Italy delays there will be the same and ideas will change several times ( unfortunately it is our fault ) but it will be much better organized than 1991. (see Winter Olympics, World and European of various sports , Final of Champions League and Europa League )


Oh , and don't understand those who say that in Italy there is no money ...
There is a crisis and youth unemployment is very high ( 45 % ) but believe me we still have money to burn ( unfortunately xdown ) .
 

Pawhlen

Active member
Joined
June 9, 2013
Posts
2,980
Location
Eksjö
1991 was not a good organization by Rai .
Rai wasn't very happy to organize it and remember that unfortunately the Gulf War did change the venue from SanRemo in Rome and this caused many delays and disorganization.
Recalling that in the early 90's, in Italy, English wasn't considered important as opposed to today (not to me :p:p :rolleyes: )

If one day the eurovision return to Italy delays there will be the same and ideas will change several times ( unfortunately it is our fault ) but it will be much better organized than 1991. (see Winter Olympics, World and European of various sports , Final of Champions League and Europa League )


Oh , and don't understand those who say that in Italy there is no money ...
There is a crisis and youth unemployment is very high ( 45 % ) but believe me we still have money to burn ( unfortunately xdown ) .
I´m pretty sure you would be a good host to the competition next year if you win ;)
 
Top Bottom