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I disagree. Santa has a very "french variété" with her last album but with Hyphen Hyphen she served some really good pop electro songs. A song like "Chanter le monde" (I discovered it in the last tv spot for Cacharel) is a good starting point for a pop Eurovision song :The problem with Santa is that her songs feels too dated and too "french variety", or at least adapted to the "france 2 public" (la ménagère de France 2) taste. It's totally understandable that it would work with a francophone audience but pretty sure it would be way less adapted for a european audience. She's amazing live but this is also a song contest. She would bring a very classic french ballad but her style makes me think it would more similar to Lisa Angell than Slimane or Barbara Pravi to be honest, meaning a "retro ballad" but retro not in a good way. Going with her would have been a downgrade at the moment, from a song perspective only, despite all her talent and capacity to put an amazing show live.
I was so scared they choosed Santa. On the other hand, Louane (and it's only my opinion) has a way more modern vibe in her songs than Santa, and has more potential to bring the right song to win. I wasn't fully convinced at the beginning personnally, when she was announced but what she said about the song is very promising to say the least.
I disagree. Santa has a very "french variété" with her last album but with Hyphen Hyphen she served some really good pop electro songs. A song like "Chanter le monde" (I discovered it in the last tv spot for Cacharel) is a good starting point for a pop Eurovision song :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEUj1iU5Bxs
She has a very strong voice when she sings live, she would be a really good contestant in the future. I think she is now a big name in the eyes of the great public and in the french industry with more than 10 years of experience and her solo hits like "Popcorn salé" and "Recommence-moi".
I'm hoping for something good, but I agree with you - I think a lot of us are hoping for Louane to be 'a winner' because there is so little this year that feels like it could win.I think that a lot of people will be disappointed. I read a lot of hype around Louane's name but I just expect something alike this year Switzerland, nothing bad but nothing groundbreaking. (Well, I would be happy to be proven wrong but I don't want to get too hyped for nothing else than an artist name.)
Absolutely. So far unfortunately there is no song that gives me these special vibes. I cling to France, but I shouldn't ...I'm hoping for something good, but I agree with you - I think a lot of us are hoping for Louane to be 'a winner' because there is so little this year that feels like it could win.
I haven't really gelled with the Austrian song. Even though at the moment I think it's got by far the best hope of winning.Absolutely. So far unfortunately there is no song that ives me these special vibes. I cling to France, ut I shouldn't ...![]()
That's a lot just to say that we think the same, lol. I know that you were talking about her solo songs, but I wanted to prove that she can also make more contemporary songs too. I quoted "Chanter le monde" as a "starting point" precisely because this is probably the closest that she has in her solo career as Eurovision-friendly. Obviously I don't want this song to compete, or at least it would need major changes as you say, but as I said it was more to show she can also have more modern and dynamic instrumentals, and not only classical french variété songs with a piano.I don't speak about Hyphen Hyphen here but about her own songs in solo. I would actually prefer her going to Eurovision with Hyphen Hyphen. As a host entry, Hyphen Hyphen would be great for example and they would bring France a great result with the right song.
I like "Chanter le monde" too but I would never see it at Eurovision doing well and be competitive without a serious revamp. Without a revamp, it's a bottom 5. You don't need just a "starting point" or only a good song at Eurovision. You need something more to standout and sometimes the voice is not enough to carry the song. We are here to win and have ambition, not to end in 22nd place so we have to be demanding in our choices of artists. Popcorn Salé would do 14-20th place i believe.
Eurovision is a song contest, not a voice contest. And being a big name in your country doesn't mean you will succeed at Eurovision. We had so many exemples in previous years. Don't get me wrong, she's a great singer and artist and i don't question that at all but she would need to send something different from her usual stuff in order to succeed and potentially be a contender for the victory. We don't need just a good artist, we need an artist that could bring the long awaited victory.
German bloggers doubt that Austria will win. Even though JJ is far away from being Nemo, the song simply has similarities and the bloggers doubt that Juries will let Austria win. I like the song, but not enough to want seeing it win either. But as you said I like some entries as from Albania, but they are far away from winning too.I haven't really gelled with the Austrian song. Even though at the moment I think it's got by far the best hope of winning.
My favourites so far are Germany, Latvia and Sweden. I don't think any of them are likely winners though.
So yes like you, really hoping for something special from Louane that has a fighting chance of the win. I fear we'll be disappointed
I have a hard time seeing this being bad or even average since they chose such a big event to premiere this song at, but stranger things have happened.
Yeah but wasn't that a prerecorded performance?Eiffel Tower reveal, France, 2020.
Tbh I think there is so much hype and excitement being built around this that expectations are never going to be met for a number of people, even if it is excellent.
I am a little cautious tbh. Everytime France is confident in their entry it ends up getting a disappointing, for them, result (2016 - 6th but once a winning contender; 2017, 2023).
And their "rollout" and plan to present the song only raises the expectations.
Even going back to 2012 when Anngun and the team saying they had a winning song.![]()