France FRANCE 2025 - Louane - maman

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[FRFanESC]

The problem with Santa is that her songs feels too dated and too "french variety", or at least adapted to the "france 2 public" (la ménagère de France 2) taste. It's totally understandable that it would work with a francophone audience but pretty sure it would be way less adapted for a european audience. She's amazing live but this is also a song contest. She would bring a very classic french ballad but her style makes me think it would more similar to Lisa Angell than Slimane or Barbara Pravi to be honest, meaning a "retro ballad" but retro not in a good way. Going with her would have been a downgrade at the moment, from a song perspective only, despite all her talent and capacity to put an amazing show live.

I was so scared they choosed Santa. On the other hand, Louane (and it's only my opinion) has a way more modern vibe in her songs than Santa, and has more potential to bring the right song to win. I wasn't fully convinced at the beginning personnally, when she was announced but what she said about the song is very promising to say the least.

I disagree. Santa has a very "french variété" with her last album but with Hyphen Hyphen she served some really good pop electro songs. A song like "Chanter le monde" (I discovered it in the last tv spot for Cacharel) is a good starting point for a pop Eurovision song :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEUj1iU5Bxs

She has a very strong voice when she sings live, she would be a really good contestant in the future. I think she is now a big name in the eyes of the great public and in the french industry with more than 10 years of experience and her solo hits like "Popcorn salé" and "Recommence-moi".

 

[DirtyFalcon]

I disagree. Santa has a very "french variété" with her last album but with Hyphen Hyphen she served some really good pop electro songs. A song like "Chanter le monde" (I discovered it in the last tv spot for Cacharel) is a good starting point for a pop Eurovision song :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEUj1iU5Bxs

She has a very strong voice when she sings live, she would be a really good contestant in the future. I think she is now a big name in the eyes of the great public and in the french industry with more than 10 years of experience and her solo hits like "Popcorn salé" and "Recommence-moi".

I don't speak about Hyphen Hyphen here but about her own songs in solo. I would actually prefer her going to Eurovision with Hyphen Hyphen. As a host entry, Hyphen Hyphen would be great for example and they would bring France a great result with the right song.

I like "Chanter le monde" too but I would never see it at Eurovision doing well and be competitive without a serious revamp. Without a revamp, it's a bottom 5. You don't need just a "starting point" or only a good song at Eurovision. You need something more to standout and sometimes the voice is not enough to carry the song. We are here to win and have ambition, not to end in 22nd place so we have to be demanding in our choices of artists. Popcorn Salé would do 14-20th place i believe.

Eurovision is a song contest, not a voice contest. And being a big name in your country doesn't mean you will succeed at Eurovision. We had so many exemples in previous years. Don't get me wrong, she's a great singer and artist and i don't question that at all but she would need to send something different from her usual stuff in order to succeed and potentially be a contender for the victory. We don't need just a good artist, we need an artist that could bring the long awaited victory.

 

[harey]

I think that a lot of people will be disappointed. I read a lot of hype around Louane's name but I just expect something alike this year Switzerland, nothing bad but nothing groundbreaking. (Well, I would be happy to be proven wrong but I don't want to get too hyped for nothing else than an artist name.)

 

[SpiritofKeiino]

I think that a lot of people will be disappointed. I read a lot of hype around Louane's name but I just expect something alike this year Switzerland, nothing bad but nothing groundbreaking. (Well, I would be happy to be proven wrong but I don't want to get too hyped for nothing else than an artist name.)

I'm hoping for something good, but I agree with you - I think a lot of us are hoping for Louane to be 'a winner' because there is so little this year that feels like it could win.

 

[mauve]

I'm hoping for something good, but I agree with you - I think a lot of us are hoping for Louane to be 'a winner' because there is so little this year that feels like it could win.

Absolutely. So far unfortunately there is no song that gives me these special vibes. I cling to France, but I shouldn't ...

 

[SpiritofKeiino]

Absolutely. So far unfortunately there is no song that ives me these special vibes. I cling to France, ut I shouldn't ...

I haven't really gelled with the Austrian song. Even though at the moment I think it's got by far the best hope of winning.

My favourites so far are Germany, Latvia and Sweden. I don't think any of them are likely winners though.

So yes like you, really hoping for something special from Louane that has a fighting chance of the win. I fear we'll be disappointed

 

[Sammy]

France deserves a win finally! Having sent so
many good acts in recent years, I really hope
that this year it‘s gonna happen!

 

[FRFanESC]

I don't speak about Hyphen Hyphen here but about her own songs in solo. I would actually prefer her going to Eurovision with Hyphen Hyphen. As a host entry, Hyphen Hyphen would be great for example and they would bring France a great result with the right song.

I like "Chanter le monde" too but I would never see it at Eurovision doing well and be competitive without a serious revamp. Without a revamp, it's a bottom 5. You don't need just a "starting point" or only a good song at Eurovision. You need something more to standout and sometimes the voice is not enough to carry the song. We are here to win and have ambition, not to end in 22nd place so we have to be demanding in our choices of artists. Popcorn Salé would do 14-20th place i believe.

Eurovision is a song contest, not a voice contest. And being a big name in your country doesn't mean you will succeed at Eurovision. We had so many exemples in previous years. Don't get me wrong, she's a great singer and artist and i don't question that at all but she would need to send something different from her usual stuff in order to succeed and potentially be a contender for the victory. We don't need just a good artist, we need an artist that could bring the long awaited victory.

That's a lot just to say that we think the same, lol. I know that you were talking about her solo songs, but I wanted to prove that she can also make more contemporary songs too. I quoted "Chanter le monde" as a "starting point" precisely because this is probably the closest that she has in her solo career as Eurovision-friendly. Obviously I don't want this song to compete, or at least it would need major changes as you say, but as I said it was more to show she can also have more modern and dynamic instrumentals, and not only classical french variété songs with a piano.

 

[mauve]

I haven't really gelled with the Austrian song. Even though at the moment I think it's got by far the best hope of winning.

My favourites so far are Germany, Latvia and Sweden. I don't think any of them are likely winners though.

So yes like you, really hoping for something special from Louane that has a fighting chance of the win. I fear we'll be disappointed

German bloggers doubt that Austria will win. Even though JJ is far away from being Nemo, the song simply has similarities and the bloggers doubt that Juries will let Austria win. I like the song, but not enough to want seeing it win either. But as you said I like some entries as from Albania, but they are far away from winning too.

 

[Paco Roca]

If France is not mistaken, it has won the ESC 2025. Calais 2026!

 

[tsegaye]

I have a hard time seeing this being bad or even average since they chose such a big event to premiere this song at, but stranger things have happened.

 

[Leydan]

I have a hard time seeing this being bad or even average since they chose such a big event to premiere this song at, but stranger things have happened.

Eiffel Tower reveal, France, 2020.

Tbh I think there is so much hype and excitement being built around this that expectations are never going to be met for a number of people, even if it is excellent.

 

[tsegaye]

Eiffel Tower reveal, France, 2020.

Tbh I think there is so much hype and excitement being built around this that expectations are never going to be met for a number of people, even if it is excellent.

Yeah but wasn't that a prerecorded performance?

 

[empo21]

I am a little cautious tbh. Everytime France is confident in their entry it ends up getting a disappointing, for them, result (2016 - 6th but once a winning contender; 2017, 2023).

And their "rollout" and plan to present the song only raises the expectations.

 

[Leydan]

I am a little cautious tbh. Everytime France is confident in their entry it ends up getting a disappointing, for them, result (2016 - 6th but once a winning contender; 2017, 2023).

And their "rollout" and plan to present the song only raises the expectations.

Even going back to 2012 when Anngun and the team saying they had a winning song.

 

[deletingpoint]

I almost never like French entries, so my personal expectations are low. But it's been very long since they won so I wouldn't mind it, even if the song was not for me.

 

[DirtyFalcon]

What we can be almost sure about is that it will be better than Tom Leeb. I mean let's be real : Tom Leeb back catalogue that year was insanely bland and he was given the blandest melfest reject ever. You would even call his song a reject of the "melfest reject" category, written and co-composed with G:Son and John Lundvik. You can't do better to create a disaster. It was Alexandra Redde first year and she was unexperienced. I want to believe (and hope) she learned from her mistakes.

Even going back to 2012 when Anngun and the team saying they had a winning song.

Come on 2012 was the old era of France at Eurovision with Nathalie André as a HoD. We're far from that terrible era now and the teams responsible for Eurovision have completely changed. She had the worst results as an HoD. The turning point was Amir 6th place in 2016 and it changed a lot of things in France at Eurovision. In 2012, Eurovision in France headquarters was taken as a total joke and they didn't really care about the contest. As a french fan, i want to forget all those entries before 2016 except a few ones.

 

[Jupiter]

Honestly, I think France is shooting themselves in the foot here. With this roll out, they are piling on an insane amount of pressure, the expectations are sky high, anything less than a 13/12 will be a disappointment.

They have been doind well in recent years, and I'd be happy for them if they finally won - they are clearly putting in the effort. But the whole thing just has me pre-maturely sceptic

 

[timmy121]

I'm starting to see so many "the expectation is too strong" thoughts that it has come full circle

 

[shameless]

I think people losing their s*it over France releasing so late is that we are all fearing another Sweden win and this seems like the only opportunity to prevent this. They better do not disappoint but I guess there's a lot of pressure on Loana now.