Australia AUSTRALIA 2015 - Guy Sebastian - Tonight Again

[Musicosity]

I think Guy got that part wrong - we will not be there every year - just saying...

I wonder where he got that idea from. It's not the official story, but I still believe the EBU has some long-term plans to get Australia aboard as a regular. It may happen faster if Guy does well.

 

[Chorizo]

According to the current rule, they would stay in the contest as long as they keep winning, I suppose.
In real life, if they win, the rules may change fast allowing them to stay. Australia participating means more money and higher ratings, so if they are successful too, it would make sense to keep them.

Let's see what Björkman has to say about it.

 

[Sabiondo]

Australia participating means more money and higher ratings, so if they are successful too, it would make sense to keep them.

Then, its means that also non European countries wil be allowed in participate in Eurovision from now, no..?? its not the only country who could make EBU rich

 

[lowyby]

Then, its means that also non European countries wil be allowed in participate in Eurovision from now, no..?? its not the only country who could make EBU rich

Time to get Saoudia Arabia on board

 

[Musicosity]

Time to get Saoudia Arabia on board

Oh yeah, let's have the hardcore gays make a pilgrimage to the ESC final in Riad and have their party. That will be fun! Not for the Saudis, though.

 

[Chorizo]

Of course I'm against countries participating just because they have money and the EBU isn't FIFA, so it won't happen like that anyway. Australia is different because it shares Western values and has been broadcasting Eurovision for over 30 years with remarkable success in recent years. Considering that Australia has never participated so far and that the show hasn't even been available live on Australian TV, the ratings have been quite high.

 

[Sabiondo]

Of course I'm against countries participating just because they have money and the EBU isn't FIFA, so it won't happen like that anyway. Australia is different because it shares Western values and has been broadcasting Eurovision for over 30 years with remarkable success in recent years. Considering that Australia has never participated so far and that the show hasn't even been available live on Australian TV, the ratings have been quite high.

But also United States, Canada, New Zealand and some Latin American, African & Asian countries shares western values (For don't talk about the non democratic ones) like Australia and we watch Eurovision every year with interest (Not huge like Aussies, but still) and we follow the contest using our motherland or European channels like TVE, RTP, BBC, etc.. and this show had considerable audience here outside of Europe.

In fact in my country, after Miss Universe pageant, many people awaits every Saturday afternoon on May , only for watch Eurovision as well. Even we have a better time difference than Australia, and this is much.

I know that EBU want Australia competing in European competition due their historical links & begin loyal during years. But they forgot that here are others countries who had been colonized by European countries in the past and they left their mark, culture and diaspora living there who also could claim the same right as in be part of Eurovision family and its not fair to exclude them and give only exclusive rights to .

And this is not about tv rankings, its about equality

 

[Chorizo]

But also United States, Canada, New Zealand and some Latin American, African & Asian countries shares western values (For don't talk about the non democratic ones) like Australia and we watch Eurovision every year with interest (Not huge like Aussies, but still) and we follow the contest using our motherland or European channels like TVE, RTP, BBC, etc.. and this show had considerable audience here outside of Europe.

In fact in my country, after Miss Universe pageant, many people awaits every Saturday afternoon on May , only for watch Eurovision as well. Even we have a better time difference than Australia, and this is much.

I know that EBU want Australia competing in European competition due their historical links & begin loyal during years. But they forgot that here are others countries who had been colonized by European countries in the past and they left their mark, culture and diaspora living there who also could claim the same right as in be part of Eurovision family and its not fair to exclude them and give only exclusive rights to .

And this is not about tv rankings, its about equality

I would like Western values to be a prerequisite to be allowed to join but that doesn't mean that's all it would take. Unfortunately, even among the currently participating countries not everyone shares Western values and we have countries with severe human rights issues in the contest even today. I know that there are fans in many countries but it's not the same as in Australia in the countries you mentioned. Australia has even been sending their own commentators in recent years and the show is broadcast on an Australian channel.

I don't understand why Latin American TV channels don't license the format and create Latinovision, if the contest is as popular as you say. That could be an identical copy of Eurovision. There could be an arrangement that the winner of Latinovision would be allowed to participate in the grand final of Eurovision.

Many people want Eurovision to be about Europe alone but I think such an arrangement would work fine. Other parts of the world would first need to license the format, though. If there were actually serious interest in other parts of the world, creating regional editions shouldn't be a problem. Adding random individual countries from all over the world to Eurovision wouldn't work, though. Australia is really a special case now and even Australia's participation is controversial.

If the EBU could license the format and then in turn allow the winner of a regional edition to go to the grand final of Eurovision that would certainly be a great deal. It would mean more money and higher ratings and more attention for Eurovision in large parts of the world.

Worldvision wouldn't work because of all the timezones and it would turn Eurovision into a regional final for Worldvision, despite of being the original show. Other continents having regional finals and their winners going to Eurovision could work, though.

The deal should be that broadcasters from other continents pay the EBU for licensing a regional edition and they would have to do it the same way as in Europe. The participating countries would also have to broadcast Eurovision and pay for the broadcasting rights. The winner of the regional edition would then participate in the grand final like Australia does this year. I know that many people here hate this idea and they want Eurovision to be about Europe alone but to me this idea has a lot of appeal.

 

[DanielLuis]

But also United States, Canada, New Zealand and some Latin American, African & Asian countries shares western values (For don't talk about the non democratic ones) like Australia and we watch Eurovision every year with interest (Not huge like Aussies, but still) and we follow the contest using our motherland or European channels like TVE, RTP, BBC, etc.. and this show had considerable audience here outside of Europe.

There is a huge difference between that case and Australi's case, where one of the country's major channels actually broadcasts the contest every single year in prime time.

 

[Musicosity]

Worldvision wouldn't work because of all the timezones and it would turn Eurovision into a regional final for Worldvision, despite of being the original show. Other continents having regional finals and their winners going to Eurovision could work, though.

The deal should be that broadcasters from other continents pay the EBU for licensing a regional edition and they would have to do it the same way as in Europe. The participating countries would also have to broadcast Eurovision and pay for the broadcasting rights. The winner of the regional edition would then participate in the grand final like Australia does this year. I know that many people here hate this idea and they want Eurovision to be about Europe alone but to me this idea has a lot of appeal.

Let's not forget that the ESC is itself modeled after the San Remo blueprint. Today it is a regional final for the ESC, not different from what you describe as the ESC being part of a hypothetical Worldvision. And afaik there were/are already several international Song contests similar to the ESC, like Sopot, Intervision, the ABU contests in Asia, OTI festival in Latin America. I don't think there were any license fees involved, but I do not know much about them anyway, or why some of them were cancelled. Were they already discussed here in the forum?

 

[Chorizo]

Let's not forget that the ESC is itself modeled after the San Remo blueprint. Today it is a regional final for the ESC, not different from what you describe as the ESC being part of a hypothetical Worldvision. And afaik there were/are already several international Song contests similar to the ESC, like Sopot, Intervision, the ABU contests in Asia, OTI festival in Latin America. I don't think there were any license fees involved, but I do not know much about them anyway, or why some of them were cancelled. Were they already discussed here in the forum?

I think it's different because Sanremo is not much older than Eurovision. Today both contests can look back on a long history and they have been enjoying substantial success in their respective markets. Worldvision could not work in the foreseeable future because it would put Eurovision on the same level as newer, smaller, and lacking any tradition probably less successful contests from other parts of the world. Worldvision itself would be a contest that would most likely be much less successful than Eurovision, giving its lack of tradition.

I think regional editions of Eurovision on other continents could be implemented within the next few years, if there were any actual interest in it but Worldvision could easily damage the Eurovision brand.

I have not really gotten involved in the other contests you mention but the thread about a potential Asiavision at least mentions some of the contests.

 

[Krishoes]

Let's not forget that the ESC is itself modeled after the San Remo blueprint. Today it is a regional final for the ESC, not different from what you describe as the ESC being part of a hypothetical Worldvision

But Sanremo and Eurovision are totally two different things, 'cause ESC was born in the wake of Sanremo but after few years has gained its own identity becoming another different type of contest while Sanremo is always Sanremo, nothing has changed apart from the place where it's held and some rules from year to year. Has already said, Eurovision needed a model to follow and Sanremo was created a few years before.

I don't think that Eurovision will ever become Worldvision 'cause behind ESC there is the EBU, maybe if we will have a world broadcasting union this idea can become real.

 

[esc87fan]

London performance!

 

[Musicosity]

London performance!

I wish the ORF guys would place Guy and Mans back to back in the final. Duel in Vienna!

(Won't happen, though)

 

[ayzelto]

After his live performance (I expected it to be good, but not THAT good) I think Australia can easily reach a top 5 in the Grand Final. Still, I think the televoting part won't make it win. Australians can say it's a decent entry for one in a lifetime country in Eurovision (or maybe not...).

 

[GWTW1939]

London Party review from esctips:

There is a stark contrast between Måns and Australia’s Guy Sebastian though; Måns is ultra clinical in his delivery and is choreographed to within an inch of his life, whereas Guy is the charming and relatable everyman. More people were singing along to “Do whatchya whatchya whatchya want” than there were for Heroes. In fact, Måns’ 2007 Eurovision entry, Cara Mia inspired greater audience participation.

Last week, Guy revealed that his team were working on a street-light-inspired lighting rig. However, yesterday I heard the Aussies had employed one of U2’s lighting designers, so in my opinion, this shows clear intent. Safe in the knowledge they have a competitive song, SBS are now doing everything possible to challenge for the win and secure permanent Eurovision membership.

http://esctips.com/2015/04/27/london-eurovision-party-a-review/

 

[Ritararita]

"Sebastian says he is relaxing and enjoying the journey, enough to tease Russian reporters when they asked about his planned choreography for Vienna.
"We are still working that out [but] I said, 'I'm gonna build huge robotic kangaroo that shoots lasers out of its eyes and smoke out of tail and I'm going to sling live koalas at the audience'. The interpreter was translating this back and the Russian reporter was like 'oooooook'."

(source)

 

[i anixi]

"Sebastian says he is relaxing and enjoying the journey, enough to tease Russian reporters when they asked about his planned choreography for Vienna.
"We are still working that out [but] I said, 'I'm gonna build huge robotic kangaroo that shoots lasers out of its eyes and smoke out of tail and I'm going to sling live koalas at the audience'. The interpreter was translating this back and the Russian reporter was like 'oooooook'."

(source)

So it seems that along with having a good singing voice, he's also got a sense of humour. Australia might have been a good adittion to the contest after all!

 

[ROXY]

As an Aussie, I can say that we are only so happy to participate ONCE (unless we win.. hehe) must say its a brilliant strategy by EBU, it created some sort of excitement and confusion. We just think it's fun, as long as we don't get null points we don't really understand what the fuss people are making.... Austria - Australia, Austria - Australia, geddittt? Even Ace Ventura got confused hahaha!

 

[SweetestBerry]

nice interview and Guy singing 'Tonight Again' acapella at the end of the interview - his voice is beautiful