Re: ARMENIA 2015 - Genealogy - Don't Deny
Can you give me an example?! I don't really care about some song in the 80's as I was not even born then.
Portugal 2011, Israel 2007, Israel 2009, Finland 2013, Montenegro 2012 among a couple of others.
I can understand your frustration, but this whole thing with anti-gay in Russia is just stupid. What can we as members of the LGBT community do? Ignore those idiots, hold our heads up high and be proud! This was not connected to Finland 2013, because back then Russia had not even made such a statement, it was just an act of love on the stage.
It was a statement of political protest to the Finnish Parliament for voting down gay marriage. These are Krista's words, not mine. The EBU did not interject even when the artist itself that her presentation has political connotations. Another example of why it's hypocritical to give someone a pass and deny someone else for the same reason.
Rise Like A Phoenix was not written to be a political statement and neither is Conchita actually, the whole song and he/she as an artist just became the voice of the LGBT rights without he/she actually asking for it, but took the chance and kept going with it. I know Russia did try to stop Conchita, but Russia is always going to be Russia, a country you fear yet you have a hard time taking seriously.
Really? I saw a lot of political connotations to the words in Conchita's song as well as her statement after the victory. I don't mind it at all, because like I said, I am all for free expression as long as the words of the song are not explicitly hurting other people or causing ethnic/religious or political hatred towards others.
This song from Armenia is not going to be about human rights or love, it's going to be a finger pointing at Turkey/Azerbaijan (or whatever) saying '' Don't Deny! ''. I just think it's so cheesy and weird and stupid to send something like that when Eurovision is not supposed to be a political platform as the thing happened 100 years ago.
I think you need to listen to it before making a sweeping judgement of it and then turn around and call me narrow-minded. You haven't heard a word yet, but you have somehow come up with a very condemning verdict. I am confident you will carry this mindset into hearing the song the song because anyone who has already formed such a scathing rejection of something they haven't even heard yet will be actively looking for reasons to dislike it. You may think it's weird and cheesy or excessive to send a song about that, but I think it's an important step. I think it's cheesy and weird for Montenegro to send Rambo Amadeus to sing about the EU, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to do it.
You come across as very narrow-minded when you judge Archer and his/hers oppinion by the fact that he/she is from Turkey. Can't you instead judge him/her as an equal, as we all should do? Hypocrisy?! Have you ever seen a song from Sweden whining about Russia taking bits of our land back in 1800?! All countries has dark history, only Armenia is taking it further and wanting to do a song about it, which don't really suit the contest.
I don't know him or her, but I do know that people who have such strong objections to the Armenian Genocide in Turkey usually come from a nationalist and unsympathetic stock of people. I can already tell by reading his words as well as the way he/she directs things to me that he/she has been brought up in a country that is hostile to Armenians. I can read between the lines and I do pick up on the underlying hatred caused by questioning the sanctity of a proud Turk's history.
Again, you cannot compare wars Sweden had with Russia. Russia took Swedish territorial possessions as a result of winning a war in which both sides were equally capable of fighting. Russia did not have any intention to remove all Swedish people, culture, presence and history from the region and territories it took from you in the 1800s. This is called genocidal intent. This is what separates Russia-Sweden from Turkey-Armenia. Not only that, but Russia is not directly funneling money to those trying to destroy you and it's not trying to economically hinder you and anyone else who may be against you. Please read a little before you make assumptions that the genocide is like every other event because it really, really isn't. I don't know how else to convey this to you because you really don't understand or don't care to understand, but every Armenian is impacted by this event to this day because of Turkey's current attitude and consequent political and militaristic aggressiveness.
I'm not against the artists in any way, but the fact that they we're picked to remember the genocide is something I dislike.
Well, get over it. I dislike certain things about Eurovision, too, but that doesn't mean it deserves a scathing review. Why don't you wait to hear something before making a judgment?
