We Are One ... English Swedish Family - ESC is dead

[A-lister]

This will be my last Eurovision until juries are kicked out, the spirit is totally dead.

Import your song from Sweden, send a mediocre dated song in English ... and you're a sure qualifier! GOD forbid you if you try something out of the norm and whatever you think about do NOT send an entry that actually represent your country's musical culture and try to avoid singing in your own language!

After the Semi 2 I officially lost it, I'm even considering skipping the final now... there's just no point in this contest any longer...

 

[elvisontheisland]

Could you elaborate?

Romanian castrate made it to the final - everything's possible in ESC, even with juries.

 

[A-lister]

Could you elaborate?

Romanian castrate made it to the final - everything's possible in ESC, even with juries.

Yeah, we know they liked the Georgian mess last year aswell...

Their lack of judgment is apparent and again it's proven that they do nothing to stop biased diaspora voting... they even join in helping such craps as Armenia and Romania to the final...

 

[doctormalisimo]

This will be my last Eurovision until juries are kicked out, the spirit is totally dead.

Import your song from Sweden, send a mediocre dated song in English ... and you're a sure qualifier! GOD forbid you if you try something out of the norm and whatever you think about do NOT send an entry that actually represent your country's musical culture and try to avoid singing in your own language!

After the Semi 2 I officially lost it, I'm even considering skipping the final now... there's just no point in this contest any longer...

Goodbye then....?

 

[A-lister]

Goodbye then....?

Well there's no point now is it? ESC has totally lost its purpose... it has become a contest for Swedish writers to send their mediocre MF rejects... so much for "diversity" ? ...

I have no words, the worst qualifiers since the introduction of semis... even in a weak year.

 

[LakZaNokte]

the spirit is totally dead.

tbh, few weeks ago i realised something is off here.
can't explain it but it's some kind of weird (bad) atmosphere...

 

[AdelAdel]

Well there's no point now is it? ESC has totally lost its purpose... it has become a contest for Swedish writers to send their mediocre MF rejects... so much for "diversity" ? ...

I have no words, the worst qualifiers since the introduction of semis... even in a weak year.

Yes, because "songs" like Montenegro should have definitely made it instead

Seriously, what's your problem? :? Songs don't qualify with juries alone, televoters must like them as well

 

[A-lister]

I hope there will be even more withdrawals next year... there need to be a change of rules, or the juries need to have some GUIDELINES to protect the Eurovision idea and not KILL it! ... otherwise this contest is no longer what is once was.

 

[doctormalisimo]

Well there's no point now is it? ESC has totally lost its purpose... it has become a contest for Swedish writers to send their mediocre MF rejects... so much for "diversity" ? ...

I have no words, the worst qualifiers since the introduction of semis... even in a weak year.

well keep in mind some of the more original entries qualified - like Romania, Malta, Hungary, Armenia. If you like though, I will send a letter to the EBU asking that only songs which conform to your tastes are allowed to qualify, I hope that'll help xD

 

[A-lister]

Yes, because "songs" like Montenegro should have definitely made it instead

Seriously, what's your problem? :? Songs don't qualify with juries alone, televoters must like them as well

Juries can make it or break it with their 50% powers you know? They are the "professionals" afterall...

So what do we get? Almost NO entries in native languages in the final, only ONE entry with ethnic-motives belonging to a major diaspora country, and more or less only dated cheese ballads and safe middle-of-the road pop in English... is that the definition of ESC??

Oh, this has to do with so much more than just the Montenegrin entry... if it was just that then there would be no problem.

Coincidence that since juries are brought back the diversity in languages, styles and mostly cultural diversity has declined by each year and the English and dated pop has been taken over and Swedish songwriters are flooding the contest? Coincidence?

 

[CC92]

well keep in mind some of the more original entries qualified - like Romania, Malta, Hungary, Armenia.

What about letting only those qualify that Europe (incl. West Asian countries) voted for?

 

[A-lister]

well keep in mind some of the more original entries qualified - like Romania, Malta, Hungary, Armenia. If you like though, I will send a letter to the EBU asking that only songs which conform to your tastes are allowed to qualify, I hope that'll help xD

Romania - Popera, hardly original in the ESC context and a joke entry.

Malta - Cheesy singer-songwriter sing-along? Where's the originality?

Armenia - Tuneless boring dated rock song... not original in ESC nor in the world of music...

Hungary is the ONLY one I could agree on.

It has nothing to do about my taste... I doubt whole of Europe taste is dated pop by Swedes or dated cheesy ballads... we'll see when we get the split results which EBU ALWAYS release late and NEVER by country... fishy huh? No transparency, small group of so called "experts" having the equal say as millions... and here we have the result... a ass boring contest where any ooze of originality or national diversity is being killed.

 

[AdelAdel]

So what do we get? Almost NO entries in native languages in the final, only ONE entry with ethnic-motives belonging to a major diaspora country, and more or less only dated cheese ballads and safe middle-of-the road pop in English... is that the definition of ESC??

The rules defined what ESC can be, if the rules say that you can sing in whatever language then I don't see a problem. All countries could sing "middle-of-the-road pop in English", nobody forces them to sing in their native languages.

 

[A-lister]

The rules defined what ESC can be, if the rules say that you can sing in whatever language then I don't see a problem. All countries could sing "middle-of-the-road pop in English", nobody forces them to sing in their native languages.

Well, we put these "experts" who doesn't seem to even understand what ESC is about...

You do understand that countries send entries to cater to the juries right? If it were up to the people the entries would be way different in many of the cases...

 

[LakZaNokte]

oh, and let's talk about voting blocks. again.


so, has any1 noticed some patterns this year?

 

[AdelAdel]

Well, we put these "experts" who doesn't seem to even understand what ESC is about...

You understand right that countries send entries to cater to the juries right? If it were up to the people the entries would be way different in many of the cases...

So... even if they do? So what?

My general opinion is that the "only national language" rule should be re-introduced But it doesn't seem likely to happen, so I'm perfectly fine with what we have now.

 

[DanielLuis]

oh, and let's talk about voting blocks. again.


so, has any1 noticed some patterns this year?

Yep. All ex-yugoslavian countries failed to qualify

 

[DanielLuis]

I love it how you're going crazy that only 2 songs in a foreign language failed to qualify. yet just a few months ago you were using the fact that 6 out of the top ten song of last year were in a foreign language to defend your arguments.

 

[LakZaNokte]

Yep. All ex-yugoslavian countries failed to qualify

that's the only thing u noticed? really?

 

[A-lister]

So... even if they do? So what?

My general opinion is that the "only national language" rule should be re-introduced But it doesn't seem likely to happen, so I'm perfectly fine with what we have now.

What are you fine with?

That in the first year that we actually had a quite large amount of native language entries that almost non made it through to the finals?

That the only countries that can even qualify with sending something connected to their own music culture are the ones with massive diaspora, otherwise they're out.

That the contest is filled with imported entries that has no connection to the countries, even if the whole concept is that the entries should represent their countries?

What exactly good has these so called "experts" been bringing to the contest other than some Anglo-cultural imperialism driven by Swedish songwriters mostly. Oh... and it's not even music that is connected to the music of today even... so we're stuck in this dated limbo now... funny how ESC becomes dated and non-diverse when juries are brought back.