What do the odds say?

[Pawhlen]

I can see why the bookies want to be careful around Australia - not necessarily because we're a shoe-in for the win, but rather because we'll be such an unpredictable factor, the dark horse of all dark horses. Depending on how our participation is received we could be anywhere from first to last, and assuming our song is slightly different from the usual Eurovision fare there'll be even less for them to go by when making odds. I think they're just safeguarding against a situation where they put us at average odds (40/1), we win through a bunch of unpredictable factors, and they have to make a huge payout. The Western bias in those sites is probably a part of it too - with perhaps the exception of last year, the odds on the UK and Irish entries have been laughably short (I remember Englebert and Bonnie both being somewhere in the top 10).

That said, I don't think an Australian win is entirely unlikely, due largely to the unpredictability I mentioned.

You will probably get many votes just because you´re in

 

[Pawhlen]

Don't worry, Sweden is always high up and with all rights! The international jury we have in our NF is gold. And the songs we have in our NF is always good material

I agree with you on the international juries

 

[Kaz]

To be honest, I actually kind of hope we DON'T win.
It's the 60th anniversary, and Eurovision is all about Europe. A European country should win.
I'm not at all against our participation, I just think that Australia winning would kind of destroy the point of a Eurovision anniversary.

#AustraliaFor2ndPlace

 

[pressman]

SPAIN 9TH?! Europe, stop smoking NOW!

 

[Mlyn]

SPAIN 9TH?! Europe, stop smoking NOW!

Spain became 10th with a mediocre ballad last year, so I wouldn't see how 9th in the odds is an exaggeration of expectations. I expect Edurne to deliver something more interesting.

 

[Jim]

I want France, Spain or Italy to win in Vienna!

 

[tuorem]

I want Italy to win in Vienna!

Fixed the other two are a vain wish.

 

[Leydan]

Fixed the other two are a vain wish.

I wouldn't write Spain off so quickly. Those 3 seconds we heard of their song sounded interesting.

 

[tuorem]

I wouldn't write Spain off so quickly. Those 3 seconds we heard of their song sounded interesting.

I mean for a victory, it's quite complicated for Spain If the song keeps its promises, that'd be nice to see people voting for it, a top 5 would be an achievement already

 

[Romeo]

To be honest, I actually kind of hope we DON'T win.
It's the 60th anniversary, and Eurovision is all about Europe. A European country should win.
I'm not at all against our participation, I just think that Australia winning would kind of destroy the point of a Eurovision anniversary.

#AustraliaFor2ndPlace

its about the past, but its also looking for 60 more years... and I believe Australia will be part of the future of ESC... so I say C'MON AUSSIE C'MON

 

[southernstars]

To be honest, I actually kind of hope we DON'T win.
It's the 60th anniversary, and Eurovision is all about Europe. A European country should win.
I'm not at all against our participation, I just think that Australia winning would kind of destroy the point of a Eurovision anniversary.

#AustraliaFor2ndPlace

YES, someone who is on the same wavelength as myself I'd rather come 2nd or 3rd for sure.

 

[ZoboCamel]

I think people are being a bit too quick to write off Spain - they haven't scored too well in recent history, but that hasn't stopped other winning countries of late. Germany, The Netherlands and now Austria surged out of a period of relative Eurovision weakness to surge to great scores, despite all the people saying that they'll never do well due to voting patterns and bloc voting; why can't the same happen with Spain? Obviously some countries have an easier time scoring well than others, but I'm in the group that thinks any country can win if their song's good enough.

 

[pressman]

There's a slight difference between Spain and Germany or Austria right now: our public television is an absolute mess and has very few money because of the bad (and partidistic, of course) use of the funds, so I doubt they'd want to win (and EBU wouldn't want Spain to win neither at the moment). It's a shame, but I don't think Spain hosting is a good idea until our broadcaster goes back to the serious and respected one that was some years ago.

 

[ZoboCamel]

There's a slight difference between Spain and Germany or Austria right now: our public television is an absolute mess and has very few money because of the bad (and partidistic, of course) use of the funds, so I doubt they'd want to win (and EBU wouldn't want Spain to win neither at the moment). It's a shame, but I don't think Spain hosting is a good idea until our broadcaster goes back to the serious and respected one that was some years ago.

While it's possible that your broadcaster could be trying not to win, I generally try not to fall into believing these things so easily. I remember hearing a rumour in 2012 that Pastora had been told to give a subpar (though still respectable) performance to stop Spain from winning; she ended up performing with flawless vocals.

 

[pressman]

While it's possible that your broadcaster could be trying not to win, I generally try not to fall into believing these things so easily. I remember hearing a rumour in 2012 that Pastora had been told to give a subpar (though still respectable) performance to stop Spain from winning; she ended up performing with flawless vocals.

Not so sure about that, even though they did it in the 90s (Eva Santamaría in 1993, for example. RTVE told her before her performance that she shouldn't worry about her live singing, because she wasn't going to win anyway) Nowadays, it appears that RTVE prefers songs with no chances of victory (because, tbh, neither Pastora nor Ruth had winner songs) and depending on the year, they'd pick a decent one or a total flop like 2013...

 

[Mlyn]

Yeah Spain is odd, they sem like it's not interesting to win. In 1979, when they battled with Israel, they seemed so overjoyed with every vote they lost to Israel.

 

[DanielLuis]

If Spain wins and RTVE really doesn't want to host there's a solution - they don't actually have to host it.

 

[Scooby]

Tomorrow night we will have new odds number one

 

[GRE]

Tomorrow night we will have new odds number one

Iceland?

 

[EscGeek]

xsingWhat do the odds say?
Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding...... xsing

Is it just me or..?