Ukraine UKRAINE 2023 - Tvorchi - Heart of Steel

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[nick_idk]

a major star with a promising ukrainian language music career coming to Vidbir with some cringe English language dubstep entry? how surprising.

TBH, Shurov probably saved Lily45 by rejecting the entry now. Some flop in the final would hurt her career more than anything.

I think Jerry Heil is the one to watch. I’m hoping the entry is bilingual, I could see her having a mix.

 

[A-lister]

But Lely45's song was also in English Skyler's vocals & cringey lyrics is a no go, especially калина-дівчина-Україна bs. We don't promote шароварщина.

Oh really? I wouldn't have expected Lely45's entry to be in English tbh, have you heard the entries?

I don't mind a fun unapologetic ethno bop, couldn't care less about the lyrics lol, anyways most Europeans wouldn't understand and we had plenty of cases of great revamps so I wouldn't worry about that.

Tvorchi improved their vocals, but they share people's sympathies with Tember Blanche. Jerry Heil can be the televoting winner, she has drastically improved since her previous Vidbir Vegan debacle. With alyona alyona writing a song for her, she's the main contender for the victory.
Jerry Heil or Tember Blanche

I don't care for Tvorchi, Jerry Heil in English? Meh... so I guess Tember for me... but again hard to say before hearing any songs just basing on my gut feeling.

 

[A-lister]

Was listening a bit to Fiinka, could be a good compromise for leaving Lely45 out, the most promising name next to Tember Blanche for me.

If they ditched Skylerr due to "cliché lyrics" but will go for an English language entry with bad English lyrics and accent then no further comment...

Anyways, Ukraine proved that English isn't needed and authenticity matters so hopefully Ukraine continue sending interesting domestic products and not something to "please" "western ears".

 

[AlekS]

If they ditched Skylerr due to "cliché lyrics" but will go for an English language entry with bad English lyrics and accent then no further comment...

Jerry's studying in USA, so I'm not gona worry about her accent.
I will never vote for a cliché song that mocks my ethnicity to begin with.

 

[AlekS]

OY Sound System = Marko Halanevych(Dakhabrakha male soloist) side project if he got his girls to do back vocals Zamanyly 2.0 might be coming. And judging by the song name he did prepare something ethnic.

And electro:

 

[AlekS]

Het Grote fest yesterday:

Jerry Heil is having a concert in Seattle, USA today.
19/11 - San Francisco
20/11 - Los Angeles
23/11 - Miami
25/11 - New York
26/11 - Chicago
27/11 - Toronto

+ she's just released a music video:

 

[AlekS]

The songs will be revealed on December 1 on PBC Youtube channel.

 

[A-lister]

Jerry's studying in USA, so I'm not gona worry about her accent.

Studying in the USA doesn't equal having flawless English accent...

I will never vote for a cliché song that mocks my ethnicity to begin with.

?

 

[A-lister]

And electro:

Curious about this act too, is this a newly formed act or any trackrecord?

 

[AlekS]

Studying in the USA doesn't equal having flawless English accent...

It doesn't equal having a bad accent either

 

[A-lister]

It doesn't equal having a bad accent either

Arguable, I know people who went on exchange who can barely speak English

Although I don't get why people are ok with bad lyrics in broken English in Eurovision (which we get alot of, especially bad English lyrics) in favor of clichéd lyrics but at least in native language, at least the latter won't be understood by as many wheres the former can be very painful at times. People over-glorify English in general...

Anyways, will wait to hear the songs, but on paper and based on descriptions in here Tember Blanche, OY Sound System and Fiinka looks like the most promising, if Jerry can stay away from English then maybe too.

 

[nick_idk]

Just heard the SKYLERR song. it's a generic ethnobop, but it's fun.
However, I think Shurov has made it very clear that he does not enjoy these basic folk songs. if it was still Kvinta running the show though, I'm sure she'd be in. it sounds like the type of song he would write in the mid to late 2000's.

 

[A-lister]

Just heard the SKYLERR song. it's a generic ethnobop, but it's fun.
However, I think Shurov has made it very clear that he does not enjoy these basic folk songs. if it was still Kvinta running the show though, I'm sure she'd be in. it sounds like the type of song he would write in the mid to late 2000's.

Is there anywhere we can hear it?

Gosh this music snobbery ... actually once in a while all you need is an unapologetic bop that isn't trying too hard to be something else... and that's completely fine too.

 

[WhoKnows]

Just heard the SKYLERR song. it's a generic ethnobop, but it's fun.
However, I think Shurov has made it very clear that he does not enjoy these basic folk songs. if it was still Kvinta running the show though, I'm sure she'd be in. it sounds like the type of song he would write in the mid to late 2000's.

Hmm, that sounds kinda hot. Now I wish she'd made the NF. That title though... smh.

 

[FilipFromSweden]

I enjoy bad English in Eurovision. It took me months to realize the lyrics of Achille Lauro's ''Stripper'' isn't in Italian. I thought the refrain was something like ''ahora di que sooo-oh'' or something

 

[Mainshow]

I enjoy bad English in Eurovision. It took me months to realize the lyrics of Achille Lauro's ''Stripper'' isn't in Italian. I thought the refrain was something like ''ahora di que sooo-oh'' or something

? It is in Italian, though.
I don´t know + All I need is love + I love Britney are the only phrases in English or am I mistaken?

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

I enjoy bad English in Eurovision. It took me months to realize the lyrics of Achille Lauro's ''Stripper'' isn't in Italian. I thought the refrain was something like ''ahora di que sooo-oh'' or something

True, virgin ended up being some veer jane.

@A-lister I know members of European Commission speaking English like Kalush.

 

[A-lister]

@A-lister I know members of European Commission speaking English like Kalush.

I am not surprised, the former minister of foreign affairs in Sweden from Social Democrats had English like I dunno... embarrassing... but then again to become a Social Democrat isn't about merit...

Anyways that's off-topic

Some find bad English lyrics in broken English charming, I don't, I can tolerate it in some silly bop maybe, but in something that aims to be at least more "serious" it destroys the whole song (like Alina Pash's "rap" last year), I'm afraid Jerry Heil will go for something similar (not rap but musically in that direction) and English will just not fit her style.

 

[Kam2]

Vidbir 2023 draw and song presentation live stream tomorrow 13:00(GMT+2):

Presentation of songs and drawing of finalists of the National Selection for Eurovision 2023

Organizers: Media center Ukraine — Ukrinform.Speakers: Oksana Skybinska - head of the Ukrainian delegation at Eurovision, Public Broadcasting; Dmytro Shurov ...

www.youtube.com

 

[njdevils94]

Songs out tomorrow!