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^^ I agree with that :D

However, I think it is over for both Partizan and Neftchi. I don't expect anything in the next matches. I only hope that our players will fight for the jersies they are wearing as well as for our club, but the qualification for the next round is unrealistic. Our team has a lot of potential but they are too young and inexperienced for matches against huge teams like Inter and Rubin.

The first goal we got against Rubin clearly shows that. Our roster is excellent for the :rs: league where we are very dominant, but still too thin for Europe. However, since we are the only Serbian club that brings points to our country, it is a success to be part of this as well.

Yes dear brother it over both of us. However it is good experience for the time. I think we play just for rating score
 

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@Milos and Vratoslav: I know exactly what you need! You need to have a great European season, I don't know how you get that but you need to rise your ranking so your league gets a direct UEFA Champions League qualifying spot. That way people with money will invest in poor clubs knowing that if they win the Serbian\Croatian league the profit will be at a minimum of 15 million Euros.

The Romanian league was the same as yours until 2006 when we had the fantastic season with a 100 % Romanian quater-final in the UEFA Cup. That season granted a UEFA Champions League group stage spot for the Romanian championship and that's why we are so strong now, because high investments where made at CFR Cluj, SC Vaslui and Astra Giurgiu, clubs that almost didn't exist until 2006. There where some exceptions where Clubs like Unirea Urziceni and Otelul Galati won the league and after they got the money from UEFA Champions League the inbestor took them all and destroyed the clubs :lol:


Well I am not sure solving financial problem will change everything. We have strong sponsors and it effects slowly. Let's say we will offer Ronaldo more money than real.. Will he accept? No.. Never!
 

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Inter - Partizan 1:0 :( :( :(


I am extremely, extremely sad. This is one of the hardest defeats of my club in the last couple of years. I was hoping for only 1 point and only a tie + only a good performance and nothing more, and we could've got way more than that. Inter was actually very close to be defeated, and from what they have shown, these 3 points were lucky. But, still, they have shown why are they one of the biggest clubs in Europe. Lazar Markovic had a huge chance (actually two of them) to write his name in the golden history of our club, and the chance in the 87th minute came like the one you get when you PES or FIFA........but he missed that 1-on-1 situation with Handanovic, and then in the next attack Pallassio scores. What a brutal way to lose. I would've probably felt better if we lost 5:0.

Even though I was cursing Markovic after that last miss, the whole team of Partizan was excellent tonight. They played football against 20 x more expensive rival and were close to defeat him as well. I don't like Vermezovic as a coach but he prepared this match very well. Inter will beat us more easily in Belgrade than here, but it doesn't matter anymore. We didn't use a historical chance to make one of the biggest victories in the history of Partizan.

I am disappointed with the result and the way we lost, but not with the play of our team.

Yes dear brother it over both of us. However it is good experience for the time. I think we play just for rating score

Sadly, I knew that after the first match already. The match in Baku will decide the third place, but generally, it doesn't matter. I hope that both of us our teams will use this as a positive experience and try to win at least some more points for our countries' football. I also hope that Neftchi will enter the group stage next year as well. Same like us.

lucian-crusher said:
@Milos and Vratoslav: I know exactly what you need! You need to have a great European season, I don't know how you get that but you need to rise your ranking so your league gets a direct UEFA Champions League qualifying spot. That way people with money will invest in poor clubs knowing that if they win the Serbian\Croatian league the profit will be at a minimum of 15 million Euros.

The Romanian league was the same as yours until 2006 when we had the fantastic season with a 100 % Romanian quater-final in the UEFA Cup. That season granted a UEFA Champions League group stage spot for the Romanian championship and that's why we are so strong now, because high investments where made at CFR Cluj, SC Vaslui and Astra Giurgiu, clubs that almost didn't exist until 2006. There where some exceptions where Clubs like Unirea Urziceni and Otelul Galati won the league and after they got the money from UEFA Champions League the inbestor took them all and destroyed the clubs :lol:

Exactly, I totally agree! However, in Serbia, many clubs are still not privatized, and two biggest clubs (Partizan and Crvena Zvezda) are controlled by the state itself. We have a system that allows them to pull as much money from the club as they need. And as long as we have it that way.......only pure participation in the Champions League or the Europa League is a huge success. Also, Partizan is the only team that is doing something in Europe from :rs: teams, and not only in football. So, the only points that :rs: clubs are getting come from Partizan. Crvena Zvezda didn't enter a group stage since 2005, and I better not mention Vojvodina, Rad and the others. Vojvodina was knocked out by a team from Liechtenstein last season (Vaduz), so everything is clear :lol:

In basketball it is different. The president of our club is a club legend and he brings his own money, we have a coach that made a very good system, and that is why we are champions for 12 consecutive years there, and we even played in the final four of the 2010 Euroleague. Unlike, football, in basketball Partizan is one of the biggest clubs in Europe, and a magnet for many foreign players. Euroleague website even proclaimed our supporters as best supporters in Europe (only basketball included) :D

But, back to soccer, you are completely right. :ro: league is way above the :rs: one.

Oh, and also, when I mentioned the regional league, I made a mistake, I didn't mean ex-yu only, I would some other countries like Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria in as well! :D
 

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UEFA Europa League:

:ro: Steaua Bucharest - Molde FK :no: 2 - 0 xfruits:
And Stuttgart drew with Copenhagen wich means we only need 2 points in the next 3 matches to achieve the qualification. And again we had the record for the highest attendance in the UEFA Europa League evening :D

UEFA Champions League:

:tr: Galatasaray - CFR Cluj :ro: 1 - 1
CFR Cluj has a great chance to finish second in the group now, as Manchester United defeated Braga, but I am really scared of the home match against Galatasaray as in the second half they where all over us and if it wouldn've been for the awful field they should've wonm like 8 - 1

Well I am not sure solving financial problem will change everything. We have strong sponsors and it effects slowly. Let's say we will offer Ronaldo more money than real.. Will he accept? No.. Never!

I don't mean players like Ronaldo because I don't think that Partizan Belgrad or Dinamo Zagreb's targets are to win a European trophy, but a UEFA Europa League Semifinal could be an achievable thing for them :lol: But you can buy good players from South America or Africa that will make your team stronger. I am looking at CFR Cluj. They practically invented players like Alvaro Pereira, who was nobody when they bought him from Uruguay. He played one year in the Romanian league and then he moved to FC Porto and was one of the key players for Uruguay in the World Cup 2010. Also, I don't know where CFR Cluj found Lacina Traore, who now is a key player for Anji. The Romanian league is really strong because the majority of the teams are at the same level, wich makes every match hard and that is why Steaua and CFR Cluj are doing so well in Europe :)
 

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^^ +1.

Also, a legendary Taribo West played in Partizan in the season 2003/2004, when we played in the Champions League, so I think it is possible to bring a bigger name for money (not Ronaldo or Messi....but there are many good players that would come to play here for a good offer).

Here are some pictures of Taribo West in Partizan :D

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And the coach of Partizan was also legendary Lothar Matheus:

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Stuttgart - FCK 0-0

This match was about as entertaining as watching wet paint dry.
We used the exact same defensive strategy as against Steua bit this time there were no stupid actions in the dying minutes. Now we have two mathes at home and a trip to Norway ahead of us, so qualification seems more than possible now
 

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Btw, I forgot to mention yesterday that I have huge respect for Javier Zanetti. Yet again he has shown that he is a real gentleman and a real sportsman. After the match he hugged our Lazar Markovic, giving him the support for that 100 % chance that he missed in 87th minute and that would make Partizan beat Inter on Giuseppe Mecca (15 seconds before we got a goal). Huge respect for Zanetti!

A pic of what I am saying from yesterday's match:

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I don't mean players like Ronaldo because I don't think that Partizan Belgrad or Dinamo Zagreb's targets are to win a European trophy, but a UEFA Europa League Semifinal could be an achievable thing for them :lol: But you can buy good players from South America or Africa that will make your team stronger. I am looking at CFR Cluj. They practically invented players like Alvaro Pereira, who was nobody when they bought him from Uruguay. He played one year in the Romanian league and then he moved to FC Porto and was one of the key players for Uruguay in the World Cup 2010. Also, I don't know where CFR Cluj found Lacina Traore, who now is a key player for Anji. The Romanian league is really strong because the majority of the teams are at the same level, wich makes every match hard and that is why Steaua and CFR Cluj are doing so well in Europe :)

Well i didn't point Partizan or Zagreb. They both are good team. But if we talk in commonly, i think financial is not help to progress instantly. Let me give you example; The sponsor like Socar which making 400 bil per month, to buy Ronaldo (or anybody) is a piece of cake (only financial side). However, is that real? no! why? the level of local Champions League. Only old guys may come but we don't need them. For example Mircha Rednik. is this guy familliar to you? He helped us a lot. we almost got most Romainians good players :D in 2010. Also We got couple players from africa, south america. we build soccer schools, stadiums, however the result zero. yeah there is couple improvement but looks like we need time. So my comment can prove that you are little bit wrong :D
 

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@Milos:
Zanetti is Zanetti... nonosting he's 39 he's still a very good player... but also a very gentleman during the match and not.
 

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^^ I agree. He is one of the rare players that is supported by so many supporters of different teams as well. I never heard a single bad word about Zanetti as a person or a player.......and I can also say only positive things. He is proving how huge he is in each match he plays. And even outside the field.
 

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Well i didn't point Partizan or Zagreb. They both are good team. But if we talk in commonly, i think financial is not help to progress instantly. Let me give you example; The sponsor like Socar which making 400 bil per month, to buy Ronaldo (or anybody) is a piece of cake (only financial side). However, is that real? no! why? the level of local Champions League. Only old guys may come but we don't need them. For example Mircha Rednik. is this guy familliar to you? He helped us a lot. we almost got most Romainians good players :D in 2010. Also We got couple players from africa, south america. we build soccer schools, stadiums, however the result zero. yeah there is couple improvement but looks like we need time. So my comment can prove that you are little bit wrong :D

Mircea Rednic brought to :az: good Romanian players but not great ones. The level of any league can increase if the champion winner of that league will go directly to the UEFA Champions League group stage. Look at :dk:, they had a boring league with FC Kopenhagen always on top until they got the UEFA Champions League spot. That is when Nordsjaeland won :lol:

A league is not stronger if it has good teams in it. It's stronger if it has many teams at the same level. Like if a 18th place team wins on the 1st placed team's ground and that is something normal.
 

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Mircea Rednic brought to :az: good Romanian players but not great ones.The level of any league can increase if the champion winner of that league will go directly to the UEFA Champions League group stage. Look at :dk:, they had a boring league with FC Kopenhagen always on top until they got the UEFA Champions League spot. That is when Nordsjaeland won :lol:

A league is not stronger if it has good teams in it. It's stronger if it has many teams at the same level. Like if a 18th place team wins on the 1st placed team's ground and that is something normal.

Somewhat agree, and yes we do have 6-7 team in same level. But when we go to Europe league the maximum we can kick off or 3 Qualify round and 1 time group stage. I think may be because of we don't have that much experience.
 

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Celtic 2-1 Barcelona. That is all.
 

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Good job by Celtic, and I think they deserved at least 1 point in the first match against Barca as well...

I want to point out that Manchester United has WON their group after only 4 matches. :D It was an easy group, but last season's group should also have been easy enough, so I wasn't too sure before this season started. Not too impressed by their play, but they've done enough to get the 3 points in all 4 matches, so I'm quite satisfied anyway. Not expecting them to do very well in the 2 last matches, but to advance from the 1/8-finals, they should keep the winning streak imo. :)
 

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Partizan - Inter in 2 hours :D

I expect a much tougher match for us than the one in Milano. Inter underestimated us in the first match and they thought they will get an easy victory, and have actually almost lost it as a result of this. Partizan was very close to beat Inter in Milano, but we lost the match the end. That's soccer....

Now they know that we can play an equal match against them, and I think we will have a harder task to get some points now.

I hope for a great atmosphere on the stadium and a good performance from our team. If we manage to get a point at least I will be more than happy.

These players will come out to the field:

PARTIZAN: Petrović, Miljković, Ostojić, Ivanov, Lazevski, Smiljanić, Kamara, Tomić, Saša Ilić, Lazar Marković, Aleksandar Mitrović

INTER: Handanovič, Silvestre, Cambiasso, Juan Jesus, Johnattan, Mudingayi, Guarin, Gargano, Pereira, Antonio Cassano, Rodrigo Palacio
 

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Fenerbahçe 2 - 0 AEL Limassol

And since the Marseille-Mönchengladbach has finished with a draw, we've now nearly ensured the leadership! :)
 

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UEFA Europa League:

:no: Molde FK - Steaua Bucharest :ro: 1 - 2
And now we have 10 points. We only need one point to be 100 % qualified in the European Spring.

UEFA Champions League:

:ro: CFR Cluj - Galatasaray :tr: 1 - 3
They stood no chance! Hopefully they win against Braga and finish 3rd in the group.
 

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Partizan - Inter 1:3

A good play of Partizan until we got the first goal (yet again from our foolish mistakes), after which our conception was broken. Inter played better than in the first match as I expected, and won deservedly. When they thrased Juventus with this same result, it was clear that we have nothing to look for in this match. Also, their squad is much more experienced. We have a bunch of players aged below 21, and we can't expect from one Mitrovic who is 18 years old to grapple with one Zanetti for example. However, we had our chances yet again, as Ivanov could've scored and bring Partizan to lead two times in one minute but Handanovic has yet again proven why he is one of the best goalies in the world currently. We gave our best, and I can't say anything bad to the players.

At least we scored a 300th goal in the euro cups, and that way we have soften this defeat a bit :lol: :D

EL was finished for us since long time ago, and now I only hope for some points against Neftchi and Rubin in the last match, and that's all.

We should switch back to the Serbian championship and secure the title, this competition is basically over for us.


 
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