Turkey TURKEY 2024 - not taking part

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[Ewigkeit]

I think we're coming back???

 

[12Pointsgoto.....]

I think we're coming back???

Where are you getting this information from

 

[Ewigkeit]

Where are you getting this information from

My intuition

 

[doctormalisimo]

Bodrum 2025 incoming

 

[HarryUK]

Big 5: *exists*
Turkey: *toys remain out of pram*

 

[Mainshow]

Turkey doesn´t care about the Big 5 rule at all.

 

[ESC94]

As long as Erdogan is in power we won´t see again.

 

[Leydan]

Big 5: *exists*
Turkey: *toys remain out of pram*

Their withdrawal had nothing to do with that, it was all to do with the policies of a certain president - who will hopefully be out of office in a few weeks.

Turkeys return would be awesome, they have such a great music scene. I lowkey dislike most of their recent ESC entries though

 

[HarryUK]

Their withdrawal had nothing to do with that, it was all to do with the policies of a certain president - who will hopefully be out of office in a few weeks.

Turkeys return would be awesome, they have such a great music scene. I lowkey dislike most of their recent ESC entries though

I’ve read otherwise before but it’s probably down to him too. Do we really think he’ll get voted out though? Dictators don’t tend to let that happen

 

[Eidechse]

Despite Turkey returning to esc is wishful thinking, their music scene has grown by a mile in the last 10 years. We can wait and see what the politics will be like in the foreseeable future.

 

[DanielLuis]

I’ve read otherwise before but it’s probably down to him too. Do we really think he’ll get voted out though? Dictators don’t tend to let that happen

They couldn't flat out say they were out because their government told them not to compete, so they come up with that ridiculous excuse. It's pretty obvious what the real reason is though.

 

[EscGeek]

If you do come back, i want Serhat

 

[SpiritofKeiino]

I remain hopeful that they will return in 2024. I liked many of their entries.

 

[Judas]

I remain hopeful that they will return in 2024. I liked many of their entries.

It depends on the elections which is ironically the day after the Eurovision final. If Erdoğan gets elected again, it means no Turkey for at least another 5 years. If he loses, then it is practically guaranteed that Turkey is coming back. It has once been mentioned by the opposition that Eurovision is within their interests among other things.

 

[JenJen94]

Fingers crossed Turkey does make a return, that would be great!

 

[hijirio]

I think we're coming back???

God forbid

 

[Mainshow]

Erdogan will win again.

Aren´t Turkish people in Germany (who are VERY conservative and VERY supportive of Erdogan) allowed to vote for 7 days?
Erdogan will probably get another 75%+ from them - Diaspora Turkish people may be the deciding factor once again

 

[ESC94]

To be honest I wasn´t a big fan of most of their entries since 2000.

 

[Judas]

Erdogan will win again.

Aren´t Turkish people in Germany (who are VERY conservative and VERY supportive of Erdogan) allowed to vote for 7 days?
Erdogan will probably get another 75%+ from them - Diaspora Turkish people may be the deciding factor once again

It is getting more politic-central than Eurovision so I am not sure if this is the right place to discuss it but Turks living in Germany should not be an absolute indicator of the election results. Truth be told, the most unqualified and conservative Turks immigrated to Germany so their image there is way worse than the Turks around the world and, obviously, in Turkey. So that means a big majority of them will forever support right or far-right candidates.

But the situation in Turkey is much different. The western-minded people do not vote for Erdoğan because of his ideologies, and now his not-fanatic supporters are turning their backs to him because of the economy getting horribly worse. The only problem is that the opposition's candidate is the least supported favorite opposition (Kılıçdaroğlu) since other choices (Yavaş, İmamoğlu) were more likely to win against Erdoğan, so that is the only handicap here but that does not guarantee anything.

Given the fact that Erdoğan got 52% of the votes in 2018 and now he has lost supporters in the past 5 years, one can argue that Erdoğan will be elected again. The "undecided" people will play a major role in the result, hence why it is more complicated to predict now.