Things that need to go

[Ezio]

I love Eurovision, but it could even better if the following things go away for good:


- producer's draw: a computer would make it more fair and exciting

- Christer Björkman: one who is obsessed with his own country's success, should produce the national final at best and nothing more to say in the actual Eurovision

- wiwibloggs: they are overly dramatic, are too personal with the acts that it becomes cringeworthy to watch, are ripping off the music for their own profit by selling t-shirts and still are entitled to completely rip an act they are cozying up with

- hosting in English: since the commentators talk over everything anyways, the hosts could as well just speak Portuguese, French or German

- the overall design and scoreboard: the layout and colour schemes are boring and depressing, I want different fonts, different colours and a fresh new scoreboard every year, that hasn't changed since 2016

- the German jury, they all vote the same, they could just have one person be the juror

- jurors who are affiliated with record labels, which have artists in the competition, equal bias and corruption

- reporting based on odds: Odds are a big thing in the UK, maybe Spain and other smaller Western European countries. They don't tell anything much about how the majority of Europe is impressed or not, and yet every hype is based on odds

- the negativity: some Eurofans only have bad things to say about most of the other countries except their own

- the 365 days until the next contest, because the wait is just too long

 

[midnightsun]

I agree with everything apart the wiwibloggs thing (I actually like them) and the overall design... like it too.

Things that need to go imo:

- 26 participants! Way too many! Reduce to twenty but do preselections (e.g. Scandinavia, Ex-Sovjet countries, Southern Europe, Western Europe etc.) before the final. No more semi-finals. Also, it wouldn't disadvantage the prequalified 6 who never get to perform for a tv audience in the semis.

 

[Citelis]

I disagree in most of them!

However i agree that wiwibloggs is horrible page!

 

[EscGeek]

big 5

go through the semi like the rest of us

 

[simonPL]

Let the girls be on the audience! #EuqalityForAll #FemaleLivesMatter #JusticeForWoman

 

[mauve]

Agree with most of the things you said, except:

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- the 365 days until the next contest, because the wait is just too long

It's more like 270 days when the first songs are released. The monthes before an ESC are fantastic!

And as for Wiwibloggs - Somehow I agree with what you said, but it's a kind of guilty pleasure to watch at them.

 

[Realest]

 

[GianlucaTomoe]

The male singers

 

[Quent91]

- hosting in English: since the commentators talk over everything anyways, the hosts could as well just speak Portuguese, French or German

This. I feel like French is really being left away by the EBU, while it's the official language of this corporation and of the contest. Nowadays, the hosts just speak in French when it's about to present how the votes work. They even barely speak French when the countries are cited during the voting, now. I remember in 2008, Željko was a perfect host, speaking bot French and English, equally, and telling sentences only in French. This situation really changed when the nordic countries won the contest (Norway, Sweden and Denmark) in the last few years.

It's quite a pity because French is part of the soul of the contest and it must not change, in the name of globalization or whatever.

 

[crashworld]

I love Eurovision, but it could even better if the following things go away for good:


- producer's draw: a computer would make it more fair and exciting

- jurors who are affiliated with record labels, which have artists in the competition, equal bias and corruption

I agree on the first point. I feel that it's best left to the hands of artists literally to decide which position they should sing in the running order.
I feel that the argument that 4-5 songs in the similar genre perform alongside will make viewers bored is an excuse.
If a song is meant to qualify/win, they will do so no matter which position they perform in, so they need to prove us this fact.
If not, it is obvious that running order does impact a song's qualification/winning chances.

On the second point, never thought about this. But then one may argue that we should not have an artist from country B representing country A as this may result in political voting as viewers from country B will vote for country A just because the performer is from country B.

 

[Quent91]

Plus, I want to add : some years ago, the hosts had real French language lessons before the shows. I remember watching a video where the Azeri hosts learned French before the contest in Bakou.

I wonder if it's still like this, now.

 

[Vektor]

An international contest should always be in English. I HATE the Hungarian commentators, so I just turn the commentating off, but if the host were speaking in their native language I wouldn't understand a thing. Making more people dependent on their translators/commentators is not a good thing.

 

[popavapeur]

As a french native speaker I don't mind full english. I know there is some sort of tradition but a lot of people are watching the contest online now without commentators.

I don't want anything to go btw, I want MORE EUROVISION

 

[BernadetteCydonia]

The male singers

Just a reminder that you wouldn't have had Mihai Traistariu and Constantinos Christoforou on Eurovision stage if all men were removed from Eurovision history. Consider at least eating 5% of your words...

 

[GermanBango]

- all the countries that can hardly be called democracies and whose governments/regimes don't have problems with killing minorities
- people who call themselves fans but get really butthurt as soon as someone says something negative about their favorites and/or their own country's entry
- these cringe worthy greenroom interviews during the shows
- having more than two hosts
- Christer Björkman

 

[lavieenrose]

The male singers

YOU are in a thread entitled "things that need to go," wow

 

[Franco]

- The 3 minutes rule.
- The 6 people rule.


Some songs need special effects and pyros. Some songs need a bit more time. Some songs need a big chorus.
All of them should be allowed to bring out their best by the organization.
Currently, we have a system where you can have all the effects you want and more, but strictly no more time than 3 minutes, no more people on stage than 6.

We need to replace that with a points system, where each delegation is allowed a certain number of points to "buy" either special effects, or more time to perform, or more people on the stage, or some steps up or down in the running order, or some bonus on the scoreboard.

 

[Himan]

Well, I disagree on most points. I think the Swedish chef does a great job with making orders right and I don't believe a computer or draw can do that much better. I like wiwibloggs, it's not really my cup of tea, but disappear is a big word for someone who wants positivity. Better a good design from the past from Sweden, than a bad design, it costs money to do that, so you have to wait till we are in a rich country. German votes are stupid if it's true. Everyone is affiliated with something. Odds are there and are way better predictors than random apes, so it's good to report them, but you shouldn't take it to serious. If every day was festival, it wouldn't feel special, would it?

 

[burrito]

Also keep in mind that commentary is often a direct or semi-direct translation from talks in green room or with fans for example. If the host were speaking their own languages no commentator would know, let alone tv audience, what is said during the show.
As for the draw, it should be a random thing. Or at least all the songs should be divided in two categories (up-tempo and ballads, for example) and if producers decide that an uptempo song should be opening the contest, they should take a random song from up-tempo basket. If they decide that #21 should be a ballad, they reach for the ballad basket. And so on and so on, something like that.
All displays of love and affection, kisses ie. on the stage should be gone aswell imho. I write this thinking especially about (it is just so uncorfortable to watch, almost like audience should not be there as things are going a lil bit too intimate ) But it may be an unpopular opinion.

And bring the rest of Europe to the contest!

- The 3 minutes rule.
- The 6 people rule.

also this, fully agree

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

Ideally 3 minute rule would be replaced with 4 minute one, but I'm not sure 3 minute rule is working that badly to warrant all the extra time that would be needed for 4 minute performances (meaning Eurovision would finish at at least midnight in the United Kingdom and 1am in France and Germany).

I agree that 6 people should be got rid of though... 10 seems a good amount.

And while the voting is using this current system, the country spokespersons should announce the televote and the hosts announced the combined jury vote, NOT the other way round as is currently the case.