Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Starts on the 22nd of May!
Can you specify that statement? I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to.
Can you specify that statement? I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to.
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Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Starts on the 22nd of May!
Last year you said that special conditions are going to apply this year when it comes to fair voting: to people voting mostly for new songs, to people who vote only in groups with their favorites.
You said this in the BT 2012 thread. It's possible to find this post of yours, but TBH, it's gonna be pretty difficult in those hundreds of pages.
Last year you said that special conditions are going to apply this year when it comes to fair voting: to people voting mostly for new songs, to people who vote only in groups with their favorites.
You said this in the BT 2012 thread. It's possible to find this post of yours, but TBH, it's gonna be pretty difficult in those hundreds of pages.
Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Starts on the 22nd of May!
In the past we didn't track votes and patterns but we'll be doing it this year and will paying attention closely to all the votes received and be more proactive.
In the past we didn't track votes and patterns but we'll be doing it this year and will paying attention closely to all the votes received and be more proactive.
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Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Starts on the 22nd of May!
Why you can't accept that there are people who likes mostly new music?
(i don't say about myself now)
mostly for old songs, mostly for folk songs, mostly for ballads, mostly for songs in native languages.
Why you can't accept that there are people who likes mostly new music?
(i don't say about myself now)
Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Starts on the 22nd of May!
Cause it's not in the spirit of this tournament. If somebody exclusivly likes newer or older songs that's their choice but this isn't the right game for them.
Why you can't accept that there are people who likes mostly new music?
Cause it's not in the spirit of this tournament. If somebody exclusivly likes newer or older songs that's their choice but this isn't the right game for them.
Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Starts on the 22nd of May!
And the reason why the newer song comes up more than any other issue, it's because it's the most prominent one. WE are also watching other fraudalent votes. We have seen people giving the highest more to their countries (or their favorite ones), someone just voting for the first 10 songs in teh running etc.
And the reason why the newer song comes up more than any other issue, it's because it's the most prominent one. WE are also watching other fraudalent votes. We have seen people giving the highest more to their countries (or their favorite ones), someone just voting for the first 10 songs in teh running etc.
QwaarJet
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Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Starts on the 22nd of May!
Then what is the right game for them? There is no other option. If the forum organised a game for newer songs that would be fine, but seeing as this is the only tournament of It's size, then I'll vote as I please and If I end up getting kicked out for ignoring old songs, then so be it.
Then what is the right game for them? There is no other option. If the forum organised a game for newer songs that would be fine, but seeing as this is the only tournament of It's size, then I'll vote as I please and If I end up getting kicked out for ignoring old songs, then so be it.
Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Starts on the 22nd of May!
I just don't get the "I don't like old songs" way of thinking. Where do you draw the line for what is old? Is it the instruments you don't like? The crackling noise of the recording? The style or sound of a specific genre? Each decade sounds vastly different.
For me personally the contest isn't divided into pre-2000s and the 2000s/2010s. For me there's the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s and 2010s. Each decade has amazing songs and each decade has horrible songs. I'm sure if people took the time to actually listen to the songs, look past the orchestrated old-fashioned instrumentations, lack of stage shows and whatever characteristics older entries tend to have, that they will find great melodies and (if you care about such things) wonderful lyrics and truly amazing classics. And if you'd strip away all the glitz and the dazzling glamor of modern entries, the fancy overproduced recordings and pumping beats, are you really left with timeless songs you'll want to listen to for years to come?
That so many new ESC fans seem so unwilling to listen to (and embrace) the old entries is so baffling to me. It would be the same as if The Beatles were still making records, but people today only care to listen to their latest album, not even remotely interested in their past records (and haven't even heard all of their classic songs) because "they don't like old songs", but they still call themselves Beatles fans. I don't even like the Beatles, but just wanted to draw a comparison.
I just don't get the "I don't like old songs" way of thinking. Where do you draw the line for what is old? Is it the instruments you don't like? The crackling noise of the recording? The style or sound of a specific genre? Each decade sounds vastly different.
For me personally the contest isn't divided into pre-2000s and the 2000s/2010s. For me there's the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s and 2010s. Each decade has amazing songs and each decade has horrible songs. I'm sure if people took the time to actually listen to the songs, look past the orchestrated old-fashioned instrumentations, lack of stage shows and whatever characteristics older entries tend to have, that they will find great melodies and (if you care about such things) wonderful lyrics and truly amazing classics. And if you'd strip away all the glitz and the dazzling glamor of modern entries, the fancy overproduced recordings and pumping beats, are you really left with timeless songs you'll want to listen to for years to come?
That so many new ESC fans seem so unwilling to listen to (and embrace) the old entries is so baffling to me. It would be the same as if The Beatles were still making records, but people today only care to listen to their latest album, not even remotely interested in their past records (and haven't even heard all of their classic songs) because "they don't like old songs", but they still call themselves Beatles fans.
I don't even like the Beatles, but just wanted to draw a comparison.There was the 21st century game last year, which I'm sure will be back this year. And if you feel that one wasn't or isn't satisfactory, you could always try and get people to start up a proper new songs tournament.
Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Starts on the 22nd of May!
Group 1 is up. It's time to start this party
Check the first post for additional info.
Group 1 is up. It's time to start this party
Check the first post for additional info.
Steffan
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Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Round 1 - Group 1
Voted! ^^ Just one tiny remark, could you change the Greece 2010 video to a vid of their performance on ESC and not in their National Final... You used this one last year too...
Anyways, here are some stats like last year:
TOP5 (in chronological order):
1973 2006 2007 2008 2010
TOP10 (by decades):
1950s - 1
1960s - /
1970s - 1
1980s - 1
1990s - 1
2000+ - 6
Voted! ^^ Just one tiny remark, could you change the Greece 2010 video to a vid of their performance on ESC and not in their National Final... You used this one last year too...
Anyways, here are some stats like last year:
TOP5 (in chronological order):
1973 2006 2007 2008 2010
TOP10 (by decades):
1950s - 1
1960s - /
1970s - 1
1980s - 1
1990s - 1
2000+ - 6
Anastasia15
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Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Round 1 - Group 1
Voted!
My Top 5 (alphabetically by country):
1956 1995 2010 2013 1996
Voted!
My Top 5 (alphabetically by country):
1956 1995 2010 2013 1996
Terry
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Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Round 1 - Group 1
Just sent my votes. This will be my first time voting in this tournament as I wasn't around when the previous tournaments were going on.
Just sent my votes. This will be my first time voting in this tournament as I wasn't around when the previous tournaments were going on.
Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Starts on the 22nd of May!
Lol, are you kidding?
Last year there was the 21st century game hosted by daniels, there was Hele's best non-top 10 song 21st century game, there was the best song from the past 2 years game, and finally there was a game where 2 songs were facing each other and you had to choose (also 21st century).
So before you say something like this, do some research. I'm sure that most (if not all) of these games will be back this year as well.
Lol, are you kidding?
Last year there was the 21st century game hosted by daniels, there was Hele's best non-top 10 song 21st century game, there was the best song from the past 2 years game, and finally there was a game where 2 songs were facing each other and you had to choose (also 21st century).
So before you say something like this, do some research. I'm sure that most (if not all) of these games will be back this year as well.
Terry
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Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Round 1 - Group 1
You may find this site quite helpful for that:
Nul Points The Eurovision Tribute Site!
It contains a lot of statistics and stuff.
You may find this site quite helpful for that:
Nul Points The Eurovision Tribute Site!
It contains a lot of statistics and stuff.
alca
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Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Round 1 - Group 1
I'm so excited! Seeing that list again!
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I'm so excited! Seeing that list again!
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EurovisionSmile
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Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Round 1 - Group 1
Steffan and Aigars, the corrections have been made. Thanks for telling!
Steffan and Aigars, the corrections have been made. Thanks for telling!
EurovisionSmile
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Re: The Big Tournament 2013 - Round 1 - Group 1
Top 5 in alphabetical order:
2005 2006 1995 1996 1997
Statistics:
90's - 4 songs
00's - 3 songs
10's - 2 songs
60's - 1 song
Top 5 in alphabetical order:
2005 2006 1995 1996 1997Statistics:
90's - 4 songs
00's - 3 songs
10's - 2 songs
60's - 1 song