Televoting enabled during entire 2010 shows

[AlekS]

The Reference Group of the Eurovision Song Contest, the governing body of the competition, have announced moments ago that the 2010 contest will see an important novelty: viewers will be able to cast their votes from the performance of the first song.
more: http://esctoday.com/news/read/14432

what the heck :shock:

- EBU wants to milk some money
- now the beginning of the show turned out as a good draw
- So I vote for my fave song and then in a few minutes I realize that I like another one but I don't have enough money coz I've already voted. Hmmmm.
Imo there should be a limit, people shouldn't be able to send gadzillion votes for entries that appear first.

 

[aletem]

The televoting portion will be more obvious than ever.

 

[94ayd]

I'm not very keen on this. I hope many people complain about it after the results show how this new rule affects it and we don't see it from 2011 onwards one again.

 

[Milos-BC]

I didn't like this in JESC, and don't like it here either. It has much more sense to vote after all the songs are performed, but since we all know what EBU wants, i am surprised they didn't add this earlier.

 

[AlekS]

If there's no limit, it doesn't make any f-en sense.
Together with the juries that vote for their fave broadcasters (NOT entries, NOT songs but their friends (also sposors in certain cases)) or those juries/broadcasters (because people are appointed by broadcasters in other words this is broadcaster's choice, not the jury's) that give zeroes to their enemies... really, EBU provided the "most" fair voting.
So now politics and commercialism became kinda equal on ESC. Sweet
There's no point in voting. At first they reduced our share on 50%, now entries in the beginning will get more points ... no sense.
You can vote if you only want to sponsor your broadcaster and give it your money... in other cases I don't see any single reason.

 

[paddyirl]

BOOO

Crap idea, this will encourage people to vote politically even more.

Juries don't vote for friends, RTÉ have no involvement with Icelandic television and we gave them 12, rather than the UK 12.

The best ESC winners have been picked by juries alone not by televote imo, the 00s will be known as the decade of mediocre winners.

 

[AlekS]

^ :roll: not all juries are like RTÉ. + we'll never know the real reasons why they vote (or don't vote) for certain entries. But saying that all of them are fair is a bs, because you don't know it. You can only agree with them.

I don't think that 00s was a decade of mediocre winners. I like 90's and 00's equally. In both decades there were winners that sucked imo.
If the juries have to decide then force them to PAY like televoters. They organize the contest, they should pay for voting too. I'm not gonna pay for them. The voting cost money but only televoters pay for their absolutely declassified vote. F that.

 

[Sean]

wtf i thought they wanted fairer voting

 

[Morty]

Awful idea. I refuse to vote until I've seen and heard all songs.

 

[Alexu]

This is a very bad idea ....now the entries that will perform at begining will have a lot of time for receiving votes, while the ones from the end, only about 10-15 minutes...which i can't find it fair. Maybe some people will love 10 entries....but for sure they won't vote for all of them, but for the first 1 or 2 from that 10. I hope the results will be fair enough....cuz I don' t like at all, the changes that EBU has done in recent years (juries, which are worst than diaspora and neighbouring voting of the public, and televoting during entire show) :?

 

[Guest]

I thought we were going to have a completely fair voting system this year (50/50 televote/jury in the final and semi finals) but unfortunately the EBU have gone and ruined it with this stupid rule. :x

 

[DoctorX]

I haven't read a sensible explanation yet among the comments and i don't think even the members of EBU can explain why do they exactly do this? There must be sth has sensible reason apart from M.O.N.E.Y. even though it'll make it easier for diaspora-embraced countries such as mine i don't support this and i will never be. The most important thing is it was a part of excitement of the show. No anounceing 1-7 pts, digital envelopes and now this Pehh xjason
Maybe i'm too close minded but i really miss the beginning of 00s

 

[paddyirl]

I think digital envelopes was dreadful, will they be an ongoing thing or was it Channel 1's choice to do the digital envelopes.

 

[Guest]

I think they were much more exciting than the boring old paper envelopes.

 

[aletem]

This is a very bad idea ....now the entries that will perform at begining will have a lot of time for receiving votes, while the ones from the end, only about 10-15 minutes...which i can't find it fair. Maybe some people will love 10 entries....but for sure they won't vote for all of them, but for the first 1 or 2 from that 10. I hope the results will be fair enough....cuz I don' t like at all, the changes that EBU has done in recent years (juries, which are worst than diaspora and neighbouring voting of the public, and televoting during entire show) :?

Well, we can all hope to be 1st or 2nd in the running order. I don't think that matters though. I think in the Slovakian NF they had the same system last year (I believe) and the first song ended among the last and so did the second and the third. :|

 

[paddyirl]

I think they were much more exciting than the boring old paper envelopes.

How were they exciting, it also didn't look like the callout order was random, more like it was strategic and computer arranged. At least the presenters shuffled the envelopes and randomly drew the envelopes.

 

[Guest]

If I remember rightly, Turkey was drawn first in SF1 whilst Iceland actually came 1st and they were drawn last, so they were random.

 

[paddyirl]

Yes but still strategically placed.

Not completley random. Same with X Factor, the results are strategically announced although not announced in result order.

 

[ithanspain]

I have one question about that:

-The telovoting will be open for all the countries (songs) during the whole process of performances, or for example the televote for voting Spain will be open only when Spain is singing and then 15 minutes when the all countries had sing. I think is not fair to can vote since the first act the act that will sing the last and you haven't seen yet. However it's unfair for the last cause if the televoting is open during all the performances they will have less possibilites to take a high number of call, is just for time.

I think that if they want to open the televote during the entire shows, Ok do it, but only when the county is singing, or the middle-act between the country to vote and the other

 

[KilledByShoes]

I have one question about that:

-The telovoting will be open for all the countries (songs) during the whole process of performances, or for example the televote for voting Spain will be open only when Spain is singing and then 15 minutes when the all countries had sing. I think is not fair to can vote since the first act the act that will sing the last and you haven't seen yet. However it's unfair for the last cause if the televoting is open during all the performances they will have less possibilites to take a high number of call, is just for time.

I think that if they want to open the televote during the entire shows, Ok do it, but only when the county is singing, or the middle-act between the country to vote and the other

Good point.
But what bothers me the most (beside it being unfair and greedy) is the suspense-factor. I find the recap of all songs pretty cool and the 15-minutes for voting very exciting.