Switzerland SWITZERLAND 2024 - Nemo - The Code

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[Sandy]

Congratulations! I'm genuinely thrilled that Nemo won.
I liked the song, but over time, it grew on me even more, and now, my favourite has won.

 

[Sammy]

congratulations to our neighbours! The most creative act won!

 

[gingerale]

I'm so exited we won. I hope SRF will come up with a great show. Especially with great postcards which show the diversity of the country. I missed that tourism baiting stuff in recent editions.

 

[gigi_copp3]

I'm really happy with Nemo winning. Great voice, great performance, and an unconventional song.
See you in Zurich then, the contest has still some time to make us enjoy

 

[FitzyUK]

Great song that got better and better the more you listened to it. Had it 2nd last night but no surprised it won.

 

[Misterb]

Congratulations ! Best song won

 

[MAD20]

It's incredible to see the route of Switzerland through this century in Eurovision. From nearly always NQing, to providing masterpieces in 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2024, culminating with a well-deserved victory. I'm so happy for them!

 

[ag89]

It's incredible to see the route of Switzerland through this century in Eurovision. From nearly always NQing, to providing masterpieces in 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2024, culminating with a well-deserved victory. I'm so happy for them!

And this proves, once a country invests and puts an effort, everyone can win.
The Netherlands had a similar path, Greece in early 2000s, Romania was on a good road in 2000s, Italy was edging year after year etc
Every country can win.

 

[Paco Roca]

This morning I was talking to my girlfriend about Switzerland's victory. Boys and girls, the victory is deserved and for the following reasons:

1. Vocally Captain Nemo was exceptional. He managed to travel from an operatic style, to pop, to rap without worries. This was my doubt for the main event and it was brutally cancelled.
2. The staging was partly interesting (the moving platform) but also very basic and sparse. Nemo managed to fill the stage with his charisma and voice alone. It is the virtue of great artists.
3. Switzerland won not so much because they had the best song but because they have been sending artists with great voices and solid songs for years (Marius Bear was solid too - he was very underrated). And this is where one of my theories on ESC's success comes to light: the musical panorama that manages to continuously churn out quality wins. Winning percentages increase, juries respect you and the public begins to give you the right attention. Yes, it is possible to win with a beautiful and rousing song but it is rare. You can fail because of the juries (Käärijää/Loreen), you can fail because of politics (Chanel), you can fail because of a mistake (Joost Klein), you can fail because the chances of winning are 1/38 (you have to overcome 37 countries) , you can fail due to bad luck and you can fail because you weren't good at understanding that you shouldn't send a catchy song in an edition that's too loud. Those who manage to always bring quality manage to stem randomness and "inexplicably" always make themselves candidates for victory like Ukraine and Italy (I won't include Sweden which owes much of its fortune to jury intrigues). Switzerland has managed to do this and the next nation could be France (which, through ups and downs, is adjusting its aim and convincing great artists).
4. Switzerland was a perfect winner of convenience amidst the hustle and bustle.
5. Switzerland was the ideal winner for the EBU. He embodies the ideals of the broadcaster's top management. They went for quality vocals rather than the catchy sound of Baby Lasagna.

Nemo is the perfect winner and I don't think there will be any controversy like last year. Objectively it was the strongest. Then, that the song will be forgotten, will never be sung (due to the high level of difficulty) and will not have a worldwide success is a different matter. Same thought for Nemo. Whether he will remain only in the memories of us Eurofans without leaving the boundaries crossed by ABBA, Celine Dion, Måneskin and partly Ducan Lawrence, is a different matter. In the 2024 edition he was the best. Go to Geneva!

 

[Gitte]

Everyone, pls remember that Nemo is non binary and goes by they/them pronouns.

 

[gigi_copp3]

I think Eurovision should not be a contest for the "best song to sell worldwide": otherwise, Snap would have been a deserving winner in 2022 and Apollo a deserving winner in 2017.
It's not just about that: it's about song, performance, show, voice, message, luck and other external factors like politics. Nemo is between the ones that match the most with all these factors, as well as Baby Lasagna and others.
As long as politics doesn't become the main factor that decides everything (like 2022), we should be happy of every winner gets crowned. The Code is not the breakthrough hit that will appear on TikTok every three minutes, but it's still a great song with a great message sung by a great singer.
Kudos Nemo, you earned it. See ya in

 

[Realest]

The Graphic weve all been waiting for?

 

[Shadowfuxcs]

Delighted with Switzerland's win and it's one of the very rare occasions that I actually voted for the winner.
Juries are part of the contest for a reason, as is apparent from the final result. They have every right to boost a song, and Nemo benefitted by being one of the few to cater to both the jury and the public. A lot of people are being toxic and even homophobic/transphobic as a reaction to the win, but in truth the artistic and musical gap between Switzerland and Croatia is much larger that what was reflected in the final score.
Nemo will be a great ambassador for the contest, being the first non-binary, first publicly pro-ceasefire, first winner to not be afraid to criticise the EBU shenanigans mere minutes after their win. The song itself is one fo the strongest recent winners imo, very strong studio track that manages to blend different styles without being chaotic. Nemo's vocals were the best in the contest and the story of the song felt genuine to him, in accordance with the recent trend of winners being connected to the song instead of just receiving ready to go from a Swedish team. The staging was the most innovative of the season as well, though I would have liked to see some colour from the LEDs and more variation in the lighting.

Overall this is an amazing winner that might save this award Eurovision year, and I hope the fans with embrace it, with less complaint about why other countries didn't win.

 

[Mainshow]

I gave it in the poll and it was around my #10 to #13 in the past weeks.

I enjoy the song, I think Nemo's got a brilliant voice and they know how to play around with it (opera and rap parts).
The song is mesmerising and captivating and catchy as well - oh and very well-produced.
So kudos to SRF, Nemo and for making it happen and congrations!
I'm happy for them and all Swiss fans.

But dunno, it still feels a bit disappointing that the juries massively voted for a single entry - in fact, Nemo got more 12's than Loreen - and made a #5 in televoting win. It's somehow crazy that it was even possible despite 3 (Three!) countries getting more than 300 televoting points.

There were many other great entries to choose from (for a jury) and some picked them or for example - I just fail to see what they saw in Nemo that he won the jury vote by such a ridiculous margin.

BUT - anyway, Nemo won fair and square and I'm really happy for them and Switzerland.

 

[Ianp16]

Thank god this won and not the other song that we were worried would hi jack the whole contest.

 

[Sammy]

This goes to the german speakers here, because I encountered a difficulty throughout the day and maybe you have a solution:

When friends who are not so much into the contest asked me about the winner and also wenn I read articles about them, it struck me that im german so many words (nouns, articles, adjectives, pronouns..) are gendermarked that it either was very complicated to talk talk about Nemo or it felt really cold and unpersonal.

Look at the best translation of the sentence: „they are a fantastic singer“ I came up with.

Es ist eine fantastische (is it ok to use a female form here?) singende Person. How unnatural, impersonal and sterile! Besides it doesn‘t mean the same as singer!

„Mensch“ instead of „Person“ would already be better but still - that‘s also so unpersonal, so distanced.

And „es“ as a pronoun is the worst as it is used for things and I dont wanna call a human „it“!

I mean in english, I have no problems talking about them, but in german it really makes me uncomfortable. Not because of the effort, but because of the outcome.

How do you deal with that?

 

[SAYAY]

Thank you Switzerland My biggest favorite this year , congratulations for winning Me and my mother voted many times for Nemo from Norway

 

[CaraMia]

I didn't like it in the studio version, but the live performance completely sold it. Deserved winner.

 

[Gitte]

People who complain about nemo being only fifth in televote forget that they still scored 226 points. That's not at all a low score. The top 5 in televote simply HIJACKED the televote, all having massive scores - Nemo has 90 televote points more than Bambi who got 136 and was sixth, while there is a 111 point difference in televote between nemo (fifth) & baby lasanga (first). Last year, there was a difference of 134 between loreen and kaarija, first and second.

 

[Shadowfuxcs]

People who complain about nemo being only fifth in televote forget that they still scored 226 points. That's not at all a low score. The top 5 in televote simply HIJACKED the televote, all having massive scores - Nemo has 90 televote points more than Bambi who got 136 and was sixth, while there is a 111 point difference in televote between nemo (fifth) & baby lasanga (first). Last year, there was a difference of 134 between loreen and kaarija, first and second.

Plus, people need to understand that relative positions mean nothing, it's all about the point tally. if you score more than 200 in both jury and public, and of the scores is close to 300, then you are very likely to win.
Croatia was not a jury song and received higher amount of jury points than expected because the juror were afraid to downvote the odds favourite for another year.
Nemo received 226 votes from the public. Ducan Laurence received just a little bit more, 261, with more countries voting than this year. Yet he was 2nd and his televise score was considered acceptable for a winner. Whether Nemo came 5th, 4th (missed by 1 point) or 2nd with the tele, it doesn't matter. What matters is the gap from the televise winner. Croatia just didn't manage to be ahead enough of Switzerland with the public so Nemo won.