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Spain SPAIN 2022 - Chanel - SloMo

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    66 26.6%
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escYOUnited

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Llegó la mami
La reina, la dura, una Bugatti
El mundo está loco con este party
Si tengo un problema, no es monetary
Yo vuelvo loquito’ a todos los daddies
Yo siempre primera, nunca secondary
Apenas hago doom, doom
Con mi boom, boom
Y le tengo dando zoom, zoom
Por Miami

Y no se confundan
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazones
Solo existe una
No hay imitaciones (Na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, morе, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suеlo, lo, lo, lo, lo (Yeah)
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)
Take a video, watch it slo mo

Te gusta todo lo que tengo
Te endulzo la cara en jugo de mango
Se te dispara cuando la prendo
Hasta el final, yo no me detengo
Take a sip of my cola-la
Un poco salvaje na-na-na
Make it go like pa-pa-pa-pa
Like pa-pa-pa-pa-pa

Y no se confundan (Y no se confundan)
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready (Yo siempre estoy ready)
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazone’
Solo existe una (Solo existe una)
No hay imitaciones (Na, na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo (Oye)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)
Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)

Y no se confundan (Y no se confundan)
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready (Yo siempre estoy ready)
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazones
Solo existe una (Solo existe una)
No hay imitaciones (Na, na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo (Oye)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Haz el dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo​
 
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Mainshow

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https://cy.hellomagazine.com/celebr...a-ekprosopos-tis-ispanias-gia-tin-eurovision/

Copy-paste los cojones.
Singing and dancing at the same time existed before Eleni went to Eurovision!!
I´ve seen such comments so often already - it is pathetic and ridiculous.

The songs are not even alike - not even close.

Not ever uptempo-bop song is a "Fuego" copy. Not even song involving guitars is a "Maneskin" copy.

The only three things they have in common: They are both female. They are great dancers. They have both brown hair.
Apparently, this is already enough for bitter gay men in their 40´s to mock Chanel and her entry.

Seriously, this is getting so frustrating.

Also, it´s really ridiculous for them - actually, because Chanel seems to be a better dancer (at least IF we compare both performances).
 

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I´ve seen such comments so often already - it is pathetic and ridiculous.

The songs are not even alike - not even close.

Not ever uptempo-bop song is a "Fuego" copy. Not even song involving guitars is a "Maneskin" copy.

The only three things they have in common: They are both female. They are great dancers. They have both brown hair.
Apparently, this is already enough for bitter gay men in their 40´s to mock Chanel and her entry.

Seriously, this is getting so frustrating.

Also, it´s really ridiculous for them - actually, because Chanel seems to be a better dancer (at least IF we compare both performances).

Wow exactly :'D
Didn't people constantly compare Eleni to Beyonce? Almost as if she did not invent singing and dancing.

And anyways, if an artist is an inspiration for other artists, what's wrong in that? Art has always worked by influences! And as @Mainshow say, the songs are very different! (Fuego is much better, tbh, but Chanel is better at dancing).
 

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Why do you think Secreto de agua is the only song that represents 'Spain's voice'? To start with, the song that recalls the most the Spanish folk is Terra. And I always thought it was a joke that Eurovision had seen many latino entries in English and just some words in Spanish... but Spain always refused to send its own. Even if one considers that Spain is not exactly a latino country, culturally speaking it's the closest one to Hispanic America in Europe. We now have the chance to send a latino entry, sung almost entirely in Spanish, performed by a Cuban-born artist, and with an outstanding staging.
It is not Secreto de Agua it is something like it. A song that is only a song. Spaniards reasons for choosing a song are distorted and always take into account many aspects beyond the song itself. Spanish fans have a need to impresl
 

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Analytical televoting:

Tanxu 46%
Rigoberta 34%
Chanel 11%

Not that "flattering" to Chanel, but hey ho...

So... Spain´s televoters awarded 135 pts in total:
20 to Chanel (96 in total)
25 to Rigoberta (91)
30 to Tanxugueiras (90)

If the televoting points have been contributed and generated like the "jury votes from these 5 individual people", the televoting points should have been looking like this:
62 to Tanxugueiras
46 to Rigoberta
15 to Chanel

and we would have got a completely different Top 3:
112 Rigoberta (66+46)
112 Tanxugueiras (60+62)
91 Chanel (76+15)

So even with a 25% televoting system, Chanel wouldn´t have won if they didn´t split the televoting votes in such a stupid way - the Spanish televoters got fooled big time and like I´ve said, they should complain and stop voting in such corrupt national finals.

BUT - again, I just want to mention that Chanel is fabulous, charming and a great performer and I wish her and Spain the best in May!
 

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As a German fan, I can totally understand the Spanish fans being angry about this and I fully support them.

Chanel is a great performer and honestly, I think she was the best option for Spain in terms of attracting foreign televoters.
However, it should not have been in the hands of a "jury" consisting of only 1 person who works in the music industry whereas the others are some TV personalities or foreigners.. one of them even "just" the head of the delegation of a country which has never won Eurovision. The people wanted "Terra" - all of them - not only the Galician voters but also people all around Spain - or "Ay Mama" at least.
After seeing all performances, I still thin kthat Chanel is the best option and that "Terra" might have failed in May (since it is not as instant and captivating and melodic as "Shum") and that "Ay Mama" could have been perceived as a joke entry by foreigners BUT it was not our decision to make.... how can we call Chanel the "representative of Spain" if she was just the "third" choice.
Also, let´s not forget that the winners of the televoting and the demoscopic jury got announced live on TV - so basically all Spanish televoters who paid 1,40€ each to make a vote witnessed that their votes didn´t mean a single thing in the end. They could have voted for Terra, for Rayden, for Ay Mama, for Xeinn, Gonzalo... it didn´t matter in the end. The televoters didn´t matter. No single Eurovision fan did matter... Chanel was the direct and absolute winner just because 5 individual people made her one - and two of them don´t even speak Spanish.. of course, they are outraged and rightfully so.

"S!ster" were "Sh!sters" but at least, our televoters decided it - not the head of delegation from Moldova, a notorious stage director from Greece, and three people who somehow work for NDR.

Just a little remark on a point that I think is possibly more important than it could seem - the demoscopic jury ranked Chanel above Rigoberta.
While I respect (and to a great extent, share) the view of "people have to pay some hard money (in this case) and actually be invested in the process, so let's value televote above anything else as the will of the people"... any national televote is always bound to be influenced by the pre-existing fanbase bias, so it makes sense to at least somehow counterbalance that (something of particular importance to us Czechs ;) ). To me, the demoscopic jury is a good way to go - if done right, it is a much better way of measuring what any given nation's tastes are and what does it actually want. It has "jury" in the name, but honestly it's more about actual people.

All this to say that
1. Chanel is not the third choice of the Spanish people, she is joined-second together with Rigoberta (if you sum up televote + demoscopic points).
2. "Chanel was the direct and absolute winner just because 5 individual people made her one" doesn't apply, because had for instance the demoscopic jury swapped her position with Rigoberta's, the latter would've been the winner.

I am not a big friend of traditional jury (especially when only consisting of only 5 members) and in this case it was imo overpowered (we also can't exclude political motivation, probably on the contrary)... But at the same time, it is not the "single responsible evil".
 

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Following this philosophy, we should patent the Spanish language so nobody else in Eurovision can use it :lol:
please do so!!! This way, Karolina can come up with a better entry for the Polish national final! "Mufff" is so basic.

+ I´m tired of hearing mamacita, senorita, chica and so on in every second generic pop song nowadays.
 

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I'm totally against International jurors in any National Final, so you really have a point... In National Final juries should be NATIONAL, full stop. Sanremo has an Italian jury, yet Måneskin won. FdC has a fully portuguese jury, yet Sobral won. So what's the point of having an International jury in NF's? If the package is good, it will be voted Internationally anyway when it goes to Eurovision.
I very much welcome foreign jurors in our National Final and am superglad we have none of our own. As the :cz: tank is small and basically everyone knows everyone, the bias would've been way too strong if it were otherwise - leaving little place for any new talent to break out.
Sure, with bigger countries it can be a different story... Perhaps.
 

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But why then televoting existed at all in the NF.. They received almost 200 000 votes from ppl, almost for nth... That "professional" Icelandic/Austrian jury should decide for the whole Spain, without televoting.. :/
Would you like similar thing to happen in FdC, despite your votes, maybe? I wouldn't.. ;)
The portuguese public has a love/hate relationship with the jury panel, but it's good to remember that without them Portugal would have never won Eurovision in 2017, as this was what the public thought was the best song for Eurovision at the time:


The Spanish public may be up at arms against the judges, but Rigoberta and Tanxugueiras would have tanked on eurovision, and it is true that Spain has a lot of time to change and improve the staging and even revamp the songs, but at this moment the only one with a complete package and that proved that she is 100% ready for Eurovision is Chanel, she has the moves, she has the voice and she also has the personality to be an eurobubble fan favorite and that is what really matters
 
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Jonkonfui

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I hate Eurovision fans 💀
What?? Like that? In general?? Look darling we Spanish eurofans work really hard to be the most hated of them all so please project your hate only to us...They get all the points let us have all the hate pleaaaase???
 

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Okay, so i find it hard to place this one, there's good and bad to it. First off, i don't think it is so much a "Fuego"-type entry, which is something i absolutely hate by the way, i find this kind of darker, more mystical and almost sinister in a way. Anyway, i'm not sure where to place this one yet. Performance is good, sure, the dancing really works and somehow doesn't feel tacked on or gimmicky, great musical production but the chorus and overall melody is the weakest part.

It's just nothing new or special, and stylistically outdated as many here have already commented. I really got a feeling this might just "disappear" among similar entries in the final and barely break into top 20, despite many stating that it was one of the best uptempo entries of the night etc. ,that often doesn't translate into a good placement, especially for a country like Spain.

Had it been from, say, Cyprus or Serbia it might get more attention, but we don't even know yet, but in the current situation i just don't see many getting enthusiastic about Spain's entry no matter what it is. This could be a Luca Hänni-style turning point for Spain, but it might as well be another bottom finish.
 

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This song hasn't made any impression on me in its studio version and wasn't one of my favourites (I liked Postureo, Terra and Make you stay), but damn... that live performance is fire! I wasn't expecting a boppy Spain rising from the ashes of this NF, and some Galician representation would've been nice in May, but now I'm here for this entry. xheat

:10: xdance
 

b4ld3r

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Maybe this was the best outcome after all? The song with the most ESC-friendly package gets sent to Turin (hopefully making Spain escape the bottom five), while both Rigoberta and Tanxugueiras get radio hits (hopefully making more artists want to take part in the next edition).
 
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