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A-lister

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

oh sorry for my english i mean if Conchita goes in finally and albania, crno gora, san marino are out probabily in the 2015 they are withrew

Huh? What are you even on about?

Homophobia? So one must support a talentless desperate bearded drag act otherwise they're "homophobic"? xshrug

I don't even get what this has to do with the San Marinese thread xshrug
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

oh sorry for my english i mean if Conchita goes in finally and albania, crno gora, san marino are out probabily in the 2015 they are withrew

Not only are YOU being very offensive towards those countries right now. A fake drag has nothing to do with Homosexuality at all. In fact, I think Conchita will only bring harm towards it. Besides that, who are you to label San Marino etc as Homophobic while Valentina actually spoke out in favour for homosexuals, and without any evidence to back up your stand. You also called Spain and Italy etc homophobic. You can only call them homophobic if they were whining at what, Blue? Gordon? Idk who because of them being gay. Not because of some attentionseeking man who dresses as a woman with a beard and thus doesn't identify with any gender. Scuze moi for ranting, but this grinds my gears. xfacepalm
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Not only are YOU being very offensive towards those countries right now. A fake drag has nothing to do with Homosexuality at all. In fact, I think Conchita will only bring harm towards it. Besides that, who are you to label San Marino etc as Homophobic while Valentina actually spoke out in favour for homosexuals, and without any evidence to back up your stand. You also called Spain and Italy etc homophobic. You can only call them homophobic if they were whining at what, Blue? Gordon? Idk who because of them being gay. Not because of some attentionseeking man who dresses as a woman with a beard and thus doesn't identify with any gender. Scuze moi for ranting, but this grinds my gears. xfacepalm

Thank you!

If anything, desperate acts like Conchita, are just enforcing prejudices and are hardly making life better for gays in general... more the opposite!
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Thank you!

If anything, desperate acts like Conchita, are just enforcing prejudices and are hardly making life better for gays in general... more the opposite!

x2!!

how does a men dressed as a women will help lgbt people? i mean, full respect for the ones who do it but... the problem is that people who do that tend to be on the spotlight instead of "normal" (i'm not saying conchita and drags arent normal,ok?) gay guys. Thank god we start seeing more gays like Neil Patrick Harris and Tom Daley.
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

x2!!

how does a men dressed as a women will help lgbt people? i mean, full respect for the ones who do it but... the problem is that people who do that tend to be on the spotlight instead of "normal" (i'm not saying conchita and drags arent normal,ok?) gay guys. Thank god we start seeing more gays like Neil Patrick Harris and Tom Daley.

Agree for the most part, but Tom Daley is Bi and not gay.

Also, Conchita has nothing to do with gay people. This is all about the effect it has on trans people and these effects are not good. Just enforcing stereotypes.
 

mono

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Agree for the most part, but Tom Daley is Bi and not gay.

Also, Conchita has nothing to do with gay people. This is all about the effect it has on trans people and these effects are not good. Just enforcing stereotypes.

it still helps lgbt community...

anyway, i dont think tv stations will actully withdrew because of Conchita, but i can imagine a lot of them not giving points to it. Lets just hope something comes out of it. Above all this is a music competion and i would love to see a show where there is more than one favourite.
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Valentina Monetta, the Sammarinese singer, represented San Marino in the 2012 and 2013 Eurovision Song Contest. She was unsuccessful in qualyifying to the Final on both occasions but has been chosen to represent San Marino for a third consequetive time next May in Copenhagen.

She has sent us a message to tell her fans about a special Christmas present which she will be presenting tomorrow, 24 December 2013. No clues have been given concerning what this treat will be.

The answer will be given at 20.45 CET by watching RTV San Marino's Christmas show Tombola di Natale.
You can watch the show either on their website Web TV - PROGRAMMI

esctoday.com
 

RainyWoods

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

xheat
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

we'll probably know everything but her actual song xwait
 

RainyWoods

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

I actually hope SONGS will be revealed and then they can listen to fan feedback and make a decision from there. I'd die if her album was randomly released. Would be the best Christmas present ever:eek:
 

QwaarJet

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Any news on tonight's programme? Has it started?
 

theCONWEL

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Does anyone know if anything's happened? I just turned the stream on and they're doing the lottery, so I'm a bit confused :lol:
 
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