Russia RUSSIA 2022 - not taking part

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[GermanBango]

Honestly the one broadcaster who could probably put the most pressure on the EBU is the NDR (Germany). We are the a) ones who pay the biggest share, b) usually have the biggest audience and televoting numbers for Eurovision. Imma send a message to them asap.

So here is my message to the NDR:

Sehr geehrte Eurovision-Verantwortliche des NDR,

mit großer Bestürzung muss ich Feststellen, dass Sie sich bisweilen nicht den internationalen Forderungen zu einem Ausschluss der Russischen Rundfunkanstalt aus der EBU angeschlossen haben. Die Eurovision und insbesondere der Song Contest sind nach dem zweiten Weltkrieg ins Leben gerufen worden, um ein Zeichen für die Vielfältigkeit, Einheit und den Frieden in Europa zu setzen. Im Angesicht der aktuellen sicherheitspolitischen Lage wäre es eine Farce, wenn man Russland die Teilnahme an einem solchen Event gewährt. Der Imageschaden für die Marke Eurovision (nicht nur in Deutschland) wäre immens - die Glaubwürdigkeit der EBU und aller beteiligten Rundfunkanstalten wäre nachhaltig kompromittiert. Der russischen Machtelite sollte nicht länger gestattet werden, dass man den Song Contest als Propagandawerkzeug missbraucht. Sicherlich gibt es momentan dringlichere Angelegenheiten, aber ich erwarte von einem durch Steuern finanzierten öffentlichen Rundfunk in Deutschland, dass er sich mit unseren Freunden in der Ukraine solidarisiert und alles nötige dafür tut, um Präsident Putin seine Grenzen aufzuzeigen.
Ich bitte Sie dementsprechend eindringlich um ein deutliches öffentliches Statement diesbezüglich und um die Unterstützung entsprechender Vorstöße aus der Ukraine, Schweden und Dänemark. Sie als finanzstärkste Rundfunkanstalt innerhalb der EBU haben eine völkerrechtliche Verpflichtung gegenüber allen Menschen in Europa - nutzen Sie Ihre Stimme!

Beste Grüße

Pascal B.
Freier Journalist, Historiker & langjähriger Fan des ESC
_________________________________________________________

Dear Eurovision officials of the NDR,

to my great dismay I had to realize that you haven`t joined international calls for an exclusion of the Russian broadcaster from the EBU yet. Eurovision and especially the Song Contest have been implemented after WWII as a sign of European diversity, unity and peace. In regard to the current situation it would be farce to allow the Russian Federation a participation in such an event. The brand Eurovision would face an immense damage not only in Germany - the credibility of the EBU and all the involved broadcasters would be sustainably tarnished. The Russian elite should not be permitted to use the Eurovision Song Contest for their propaganda any longer. I understand that there are more important matters at this very moment but I expect a of you, a tax-financed public broadcaster in Germany, that you show solidarity with our Ukrainian friends and that you do everything in your power to draw a visible line for President Putin. I hereby urgently ask you for a public statement concerning the matter and for your strong support of corresponding measures pushed by your colleagues from Ukraine, Sweden and Denmark. You, as the financially strongest broadcast within the EBU, have an international obligation towards all the people of Europe - use your voice!

Best regards

Pascal B.
Free journalist, studied historian & long time fan of the ESC

 

[A-lister]

The Russian EBU-affiliated broadcasters are now spewing out such extreme propaganda and lies every minute and we would literally have to go back to Hitler and how he talked and lied about Jews (and other groups) to find historical similarities coming from big National media in Europe (I don't count Turkey here). They are literally dehumanizing Ukrainians and basically seem to be promoting a genocide on them (we should not forget that Russia already tried to extinct Ukrainians in the past), and this is a broadcaster that the EBU thinks should be sharing the Eurovision stage?

 

[Jonkonfui]

You didn’t understand what I was trying to say. Of course Sergey doesn’t want to criticize his country but why should he? Many of his fellow inhabitants are as innocent as the Ukrainians. Many Russians don’t want that war. He doesn’t want it either. It’s not just "love love peace peace" of him, because if you followed him the past years (I did, by the way) you’d see he‘s always been a kind of sunshine. He‘s not trying to spread propaganda. Of course, he‘s nice and very polite. But not in an exaggerated way to anyone. He is like he is. I don’t see any reason why he should be involved in this drama when every official statement against war counts.

If you are against war, you commit. Why is he so against war? Because he says so on twitter? And this is proof enough? His country is the one initiating this war... How come he is so against war and he never mentions his own country?.
He never tells them to stop?.

 

[Jonkonfui]

If you are against war, you commit. Why is he so against war? Because he says so on twitter? And this is proof enough? His country is the one initiating this war... How come he is so against war and he never mentions his own country?.
He never tells them to stop. Let me ask you something, Lazarev's statement harms Russia in any way? Does it "help" Russia's interests? When Spain joined the war in Iraq, people against it did not just go on twitter to write speeches, they attack and criticize the Spanish government.

 

[I bims]

In the meantime, information about the allegedly upcoming inspection of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in relation to Sergey Lazarev is being forced in several telegram channels because of his position on Ukraine.

"The Ministry of Internal Affairs and the guardianship authorities are beginning to check Lazarev as an open homosexual regarding the proper care and upbringing of the child."

whaaaat

 

[Betwixt Tales]

On the main forum page, scroll down and there is a main thread called "politics".

Oh, thank you so much. I only thought there were threads about ESC on here. I didn't realize there's a whole group of threads for completely separate themes at the bottom.

 

[Franzilein]

Honestly the one broadcaster who could probably put the most pressure on the EBU is the NDR (Germany). We are the a) ones who pay the biggest share, b) usually have the biggest audience and televoting numbers for Eurovision. Imma send a message to them asap.

So here is my message to the NDR:

Sehr geehrte Eurovision-Verantwortliche des NDR,

mit großer Bestürzung muss ich Feststellen, dass Sie sich bisweilen nicht den internationalen Forderungen zu einem Ausschluss der Russischen Rundfunkanstalt aus der EBU angeschlossen haben. Die Eurovision und insbesondere der Song Contest sind nach dem zweiten Weltkrieg ins Leben gerufen worden, um ein Zeichen für die Vielfältigkeit, Einheit und den Frieden in Europa zu setzen. Im Angesicht der aktuellen sicherheitspolitischen Lage wäre es eine Farce, wenn man Russland die Teilnahme an einem solchen Event gewährt. Der Imageschaden für die Marke Eurovision (nicht nur in Deutschland) wäre immens - die Glaubwürdigkeit der EBU und aller beteiligten Rundfunkanstalten wäre nachhaltig kompromittiert. Der russischen Machtelite sollte nicht länger gestattet werden, dass man den Song Contest als Propagandawerkzeug missbraucht. Sicherlich gibt es momentan dringlichere Angelegenheiten, aber ich erwarte von einem durch Steuern finanzierten öffentlichen Rundfunk in Deutschland, dass er sich mit unseren Freunden in der Ukraine solidarisiert und alles nötige dafür tut, um Präsident Putin seine Grenzen aufzuzeigen.
Ich bitte Sie dementsprechend eindringlich um ein deutliches öffentliches Statement diesbezüglich und um die Unterstützung entsprechender Vorstöße aus der Ukraine, Schweden und Dänemark. Sie als finanzstärkste Rundfunkanstalt innerhalb der EBU haben eine völkerrechtliche Verpflichtung gegenüber allen Menschen in Europa - nutzen Sie Ihre Stimme!

Beste Grüße

Pascal B.
Freier Journalist, Historiker & langjähriger Fan des ESC
_________________________________________________________

Dear Eurovision officials of the NDR,

to my great dismay I had to realize that you haven`t joined international calls for an exclusion of the Russian broadcaster from the EBU yet. Eurovision and especially the Song Contest have been implemented after WWII as a sign of European diversity, unity and peace. In regard to the current situation it would be farce to allow the Russian Federation a participation in such an event. The brand Eurovision would face an immense damage not only in Germany - the credibility of the EBU and all the involved broadcasters would be sustainably tarnished. The Russian elite should not be permitted to use the Eurovision Song Contest for their propaganda any longer. I understand that there are more important matters at this very moment but I expect a of you, a tax-financed public broadcaster in Germany, that you show solidarity with our Ukrainian friends and that you do everything in your power to draw a visible line for President Putin. I hereby urgently ask you for a public statement concerning the matter and for your strong support of corresponding measures pushed by your colleagues from Ukraine, Sweden and Denmark. You, as the financially strongest broadcast within the EBU, have an international obligation towards all the people of Europe - use your voice!

Best regards

Pascal B.
Free journalist, studied historian & long time fan of the ESC

This is beautifully written. Did you contact them via this website? I will write them today as well, there needs to be something done.

 

[jeriswani]

When are people going to understand some broadcasters do not care about it. If they did they would be threatening to boycott the event.

 

[I bims]

Honestly the one broadcaster who could probably put the most pressure on the EBU is the NDR (Germany). We are the a) ones who pay the biggest share, b) usually have the biggest audience and televoting numbers for Eurovision. Imma send a message to them asap.

So here is my message to the NDR:

Sehr geehrte Eurovision-Verantwortliche des NDR,

mit großer Bestürzung muss ich Feststellen, dass Sie sich bisweilen nicht den internationalen Forderungen zu einem Ausschluss der Russischen Rundfunkanstalt aus der EBU angeschlossen haben. Die Eurovision und insbesondere der Song Contest sind nach dem zweiten Weltkrieg ins Leben gerufen worden, um ein Zeichen für die Vielfältigkeit, Einheit und den Frieden in Europa zu setzen. Im Angesicht der aktuellen sicherheitspolitischen Lage wäre es eine Farce, wenn man Russland die Teilnahme an einem solchen Event gewährt. Der Imageschaden für die Marke Eurovision (nicht nur in Deutschland) wäre immens - die Glaubwürdigkeit der EBU und aller beteiligten Rundfunkanstalten wäre nachhaltig kompromittiert. Der russischen Machtelite sollte nicht länger gestattet werden, dass man den Song Contest als Propagandawerkzeug missbraucht. Sicherlich gibt es momentan dringlichere Angelegenheiten, aber ich erwarte von einem durch Steuern finanzierten öffentlichen Rundfunk in Deutschland, dass er sich mit unseren Freunden in der Ukraine solidarisiert und alles nötige dafür tut, um Präsident Putin seine Grenzen aufzuzeigen.
Ich bitte Sie dementsprechend eindringlich um ein deutliches öffentliches Statement diesbezüglich und um die Unterstützung entsprechender Vorstöße aus der Ukraine, Schweden und Dänemark. Sie als finanzstärkste Rundfunkanstalt innerhalb der EBU haben eine völkerrechtliche Verpflichtung gegenüber allen Menschen in Europa - nutzen Sie Ihre Stimme!

Beste Grüße

Pascal B.
Freier Journalist, Historiker & langjähriger Fan des ESC
_________________________________________________________

Dear Eurovision officials of the NDR,

to my great dismay I had to realize that you haven`t joined international calls for an exclusion of the Russian broadcaster from the EBU yet. Eurovision and especially the Song Contest have been implemented after WWII as a sign of European diversity, unity and peace. In regard to the current situation it would be farce to allow the Russian Federation a participation in such an event. The brand Eurovision would face an immense damage not only in Germany - the credibility of the EBU and all the involved broadcasters would be sustainably tarnished. The Russian elite should not be permitted to use the Eurovision Song Contest for their propaganda any longer. I understand that there are more important matters at this very moment but I expect a of you, a tax-financed public broadcaster in Germany, that you show solidarity with our Ukrainian friends and that you do everything in your power to draw a visible line for President Putin. I hereby urgently ask you for a public statement concerning the matter and for your strong support of corresponding measures pushed by your colleagues from Ukraine, Sweden and Denmark. You, as the financially strongest broadcast within the EBU, have an international obligation towards all the people of Europe - use your voice!

Best regards

Pascal B.
Free journalist, studied historian & long time fan of the ESC

It's ridiculous that people even have to write them. 1996, the german entry didn't make it to the finals for the first time ever (which was bs, one of the best songs that year, such a bop) our broadcasters were SO pissed off by that they started to boycott the show, didn't air it as usual and that's why the BIG 5 rule was established. Like... we already changed the whole contest and had a boycott for such a dumb reason and now we have to write them to maybe say something about this situation? Wild.

 

[GermanBango]

This is beautifully written. Did you contact them via this website? I will write them today as well, there needs to be something done.

Thank you. Yes, I did use that website.

 

[A-lister]

Tbh I lost interest in Eurovision this edition, if EBU is going to bow down to Fascist Russia, I don't want to be part of this and am even ashamed to consider myself a fan of a contest run by a publically funded, fascist loving, organization.

EBU, for Christ sake be on the right side of history! You're trashing your own brand with allowing Russia at this point. The country should have already been banned when they invaded and occupied parts of Georgia (another ESC country). How much war crimes and human rights violations and warmongering and propaganda from their EBU-affiliated broadcasters are you willing to accept EBU before you stop wanting to be associated with this fascist state?

 

[Lindon]

The final of the soccer Champions League will take place on May 28th in Paris/St. Denis and not in St. Petersburg.

The International Ski Federation (FIS) has canceled the Ski Cross World Cup in Sunny Valley near Chelyabinsk. Only Russians were at the start

Are there russian tanks in front of the HQ of the EBU?

 

[jeriswani]

You only need told watch the news to know that non of the big 5 will do anything regarding this apart from maybe Spain. Just today Italy and Germany blocked Russia from being removed from SWIFT. The contest will still go ahead with Russia part of it because a lot of the broadcasters (big 5) with the power don’t really care that much about it. They care more when little Romania isn’t paying up. The smaller broadcasters can’t do much and I doubt man of them care much either.

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

It's official, Russia will not host Champions Leauge final which will be held in Paris.

Please don't tell me that there is more conscience in a "discriminatory" and "straight male ruled" football than in EBU!

 

[A-lister]

You only need told watch the news to know that non of the big 5 will do anything regarding this apart from maybe Spain. Just today Italy and Germany blocked Russia from being removed from SWIFT. The contest will still go ahead with Russia part of it because a lot of the broadcasters (big 5) with the power don’t really care that much about it. They care more when little Romania isn’t paying up. The smaller broadcasters can’t do much and I doubt man of them care much either.

I want Sweden to withdraw, and others to follow.

Sweden might be a small country, but in terms of viewership and contribution to Eurovision we are one of the major ones. We have more viewers than much bigger countries have.

I think if broadcasters threaten to simply boycott this then EBU might "get the memo".

 

[FilipFromSweden]

I think hosting is one thing. I don’t mean to sound disrespectful towards Ukraine and their struggle but banning Russia from ESC isn’t going to solve anything. It would just give Putin & co more cultural ammunition against the west. I want the EBU to stay out of the war as much as possible, yes they’re hypocritical but that doesn’t mean they should be more hypocritical.

I wish to see no boycotts, let Eurovision be proof this year of how united we are. A boycott would just show how Russia’s evil manners divide us further.

 

[MopManMoss]

The EBU is based in Switzerland is hardly a mystery why they are being neutral just look at the countries actions to russia during all of this (non existent)

 

[A-lister]

I think hosting is one thing. I don’t mean to sound disrespectful towards Ukraine and their struggle but banning Russia from ESC isn’t going to solve anything. It would just give Putin & co more cultural ammunition against the west. I want the EBU to stay out of the war as much as possible, yes they’re hypocritical but that doesn’t mean they should be more hypocritical.

I wish to see no boycotts, let Eurovision be proof this year of how united we are. A boycott would just show how Russia’s evil manners divide us further.

I completely disagree, allowing Russia is legitimizing them. If we want to stay united, banning them is the way to go, not give them more platforms.

 

[FilipFromSweden]

I completely disagree, allowing Russia is legitimizing them. If we want to stay united, banning them is the way to go, not give them more platforms.

It’s a bit naive to think that a Russian participation in 2022 would be some great success for them in selling their narrative, at best they will come out of it with their performer having a crushed spirit

 

[I bims]

It’s a bit naive to think that a Russian participation in 2022 would be some great success for them in selling their narrative, at best they will come out of it with their performer having a crushed spirit

They will have footage of some innocent looking russian doll being booed by the evil europeans even though she just sang her beautiful little song about love and peace. And then they will give 12 points to Ukraine in the finals as a middle finger (if the Ukraine is even participating at that point. They might withdraw now or be replaced by russian puppets)
If Sergey wasn't taken out, he probably even would've made it into the Grand Final... now they will at least not qualify.