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Russia RUSSIA 2019 - Sergey Lazarev - Scream

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Mrm

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God damn I wish

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Yeah, you are just lost and forgotten.. :(
 

Alaska49

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I'm so lost
i know right? when people are putting out week old receipts and it's not even one of the two of us you know things got interesting.

i guess this is all about sergey's orientation? so: sergey is obviously gay (not that it's any of our business lol). sergey is doing a type of celebrity work where he obviously cannot come out. i understand rolling eyes when he sings or does music videos about women. i mean, i kinda cringe at most displays of public heterosexuality even when it's legit tbh. it just isn't FOR ME. but it's entirely possible to compartmentalize and enjoy something while prescinding from the parts that i don't care for. (unless those parts are shitty humanity because then i cannot lol)

let sergey have his career and his life co-exist the way he is able to. it's not really a disservice to LGBT representivity when that still has bigger battles to win. we can't ask everyone to be a revolutionary.
 

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Why does a woman in a man's music video necessarily mean love interest? It can be the idea.
He sings that he wants to stay strong and protect his SO from his own pain, so he or she doesn't see him cry, because tears are the loudest representation of emotion. In this case pain and heartbreak. To be visually strong, to represent protection over something more fragile the video creators went with a super old image of an ethereal woman. that's it.
why don't people want to look past the image to try and understand what the artist wanted to say.
You can hear that music is SUPER thought out. Every note, every sound is there for a reason. Why can't people think that the music video is as well thought out.

I also fully believe that a native English speaker knew EXACTLY what she was doing writing "i'll swallow hard". She knew exactly what it was going to sound like to 99.9% of people. She knew what kind of reaction it'll have. People are talking. They wanted people to talk.
 

Mrm

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Bravooooo [MENTION=5236]vavera4ka[/MENTION]
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zipanemagirl

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that they are actually quite successful and people (for the most part at least) do not care if they are gays. The current situation in Russia can be compared to the situation in USA army a decade ago, when they had that policy "Don't ask, don't talk". As long as you keep it to yourself that you are gay, no-one will go after you.

Exactly so. You can be gay and successful and live your life to the fullest... But just don't say it openly. It makes me very sad and I just hope someone as big as Sergey will finally say it like Ellen did in the US. Anyway, I forgot to say that I have grown to reaaly like this song after listening to it several times. Can't wait to see a live performance!
 

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Trending on Estonian YT top 10 xcheer the only Eurovision song so far

I know it's obviously thanks to our Russian population but still this already tells where our televoting 12 is going :lol:
 

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I am not entirely sure as to why this and the Dutch entries get compared so much? Sure they are both male solo ballads with dramatic elements, but the comparison stops there.

This one is, what you could expect from the "horror team", a dated, pompous and theatrical, simply a very "Eurovision-esque", type of clichéd ballad in the sense that outside of the ESC-bubble this wouldn't have a life really, where's the Dutch one at least is somewhat "on trend" with what ballads out there "in the real world" could sound like these days and thus far more relevant, unlike Scream which is just another thing tailor-made entry for ESC.Arcade at least comes across as more sincere and for sure musically more interesting without a doubt. I guess it depends on what type of music you like, for me ballads need to speak to my soul somehow, they need some sincerity, which is hard to find in the sea of bland soulless ballads we get in ESC too often unfortunately, on the contrary I can totally dig an uptempo song which even can be clichéd at times because they talk to a different part of my being and emotions which is why I could tolerate his 2016 entry (although not a fan) where's this one leaves me just empty. Another funny thing is that they are trying with the pompous and overly-dramatic thing, but the song is actually pretty bland and eventless which means they couldn't even manage to do those parts proper.

I guess if these type of clichéd pompous dated ballads float one's boat, Croatia this year is probably a better fit.
 

Alaska49

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another evidence sergey loses. alexander rybak hasn't been right once in his life after he won.
 

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Why does a worthy winner song must be successful outside the ESC bubble? I have a feeling this is NEVER important to any country. They all go for the PERFECT song to win Eurovision. Nothing else. No one ever took part in Eurovision to have a smash hit all over Europe. It's quite the opposite - some countries come up with something really SPECIAL because special has a good chance to win but not to be successful.

So I see no point in critisizing Russia that it's "too staged, too perfect". Of course it is if you wanna win.

Though they [the countries] have to attract a young(er) audience each year doesn't mean they only send radio-Europe-friendly entries. After all, the ESC bubble is still NOT the typical teenager who would listen to radio-friendly songs only.
 

Mrm

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He dousn't need to win...it is not the moat impotzant of course

Will do very good, if win great for me, if not..ok.. :) but song is magical! xlove xheart
 

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Why does a worthy winner song must be successful outside the ESC bubble? I have a feeling this is NEVER important to any country. They all go for the PERFECT song to win Eurovision. Nothing else. No one ever took part in Eurovision to have a smash hit all over Europe. It's quite the opposite - some countries come up with something really SPECIAL because special has a good chance to win but not to be successful.

So I see no point in critisizing Russia that it's "too staged, too perfect". Of course it is if you wanna win.

Though they [the countries] have to attract a young(er) audience each year doesn't mean they only send radio-Europe-friendly entries. After all, the ESC bubble is still NOT the typical teenager who would listen to radio-friendly songs only.

No it doesn't, but a tragically dated clichéd bland ballad that tries to be dramatic but doesn't even manage to capture any emotions because it's so tailor-made and insincere and sounds like something from ESC 2005... is this really what we want from a winner in 2019? It's true that most ESC winners have little to no life after the contest, but does it mean that an ESC winner needs to be dated and boring? That is how ESC looked like back in the 80's when it was a laughing stock ...

But each to their own, if people enjoy this blandness and think it's the next coming then it's obviously their choice... I for one would find it very sad if something like this even comes remotely close to winning, even in this weak year I don't even think it's worthy for qualifying to the final...
 
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