Poland POLAND 2019 - Tulia - Pali się

[A-lister]

Agreed.
I don't know if we are going to leave the contest in 2020. Maybe, together with hosting JESC, TVP will try to do something wow for the last time? Disco-polo? Ballad? My Słowianie 2.0? Personally, I don't care.

I always defended ESC from those comments that this is a plastic, freak show and no one cares about music in here, I believed there will be a place for something different, unique and people will recognise Tulia's performance. But no, they prefered San Marino or run-of-the-mill pop songs. Actually, it could be a nice surprise if jury gave us higher place than viewers, but I don't think it's going to happen. This is insane that Poland is out of top 10 in the semi with only 17 countries.

I had so little interesed in this year's contest and after results it's even lower. In general, I think that ESC is losing its uniqueness, it's not an great event for masses, just a show on night televison with impact on nothing. If this is so much great for fanbase that "daddy Serhat" did it, oh yeah, so I think that general not-so-good thoughts about level of Eurovison are really legitimized.

Well, it's really sad to watch them just right after results.

Honestly, I get why people are upset. However, every year there are acts that have great performances/songs but do not qualify. It's nto a reason to say bad things about contest, every year is unpredictable. Sometime it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Austria had awful result in 2013, with objectively a nice song, and then they won in 2014. Portugal kept failing to qualify but won with Salvador. This is the beauty of Eurovision.

Tulia did their best but unfortunately I think TVP is to blame for the catastrophic results recently. The staging was awful, and this is typical of TVP. Had TVP invested some money into staging and choreography, I think the final outcome would be different both this year and last year. Another thing is that I believe TVP should choose their artist earlier and create a song that is suited for Eurovision. Pali Sie is a great song IMO, but it's not powerful enough for Eurovision. I think Slavic folk could have done well at Eurovision, but unfortunately not in the case of this song.

Let's hope that after November, TVP's management is going to change and hopefully TVP will make a right choice next year.

Actually, I agree with both of your (although contradictory) points...

Eurovision should be more about celebrating actual musical diversity, to not be afraid to send something daring and to showcase your culture through music... the juries (mostly) seem to be put here to make it a standardized Pop contest instead which is very sad and goes against the whole purpose.

On the other hand, the song itself was a wrong pick, not because it was ethno, just because it lacked and TVP do fail in this department. I however don't think this year's staging was that bad, 2018 was a trainwreck though stage-wise but TVP just doesn't understand this it seems. I wonder if the rumor that alot of artists don't want to enter because of TVP's political affiliation these days is true? That could explain some, however even with the previous government the national selection and the entries to ESC were mediocre, underwhelming and badly presented.

 

[Citelis]

However Jon Ola said that juries and televoting agreed on 8/10 qualifiers so maybe Tulia were outside top 10 on both juries and televoting. Will be really interesting to learn that on Sunday.

 

[Realest]

Without this was pretty sure outside Top10 I guess. had a horrible Draw this Year.
But if they were in the TV-Top10 than it would be extremely unfair if Juries killed them again.

 

[0scar]

The staging of this one was horrible. Totally didn’t fit the song and the shots and camera angles were weird. Expected already that it didn’t qualify

 

[CypriotGirl]

This was my favorite from semi final 1 and it didn't make it. Shame

But I guess that it's a type of song that only ESC fans find good. I talked to non-ESC fans and didn't like it. I can see why it failed.

 

[Malagant]

Well, this ESC-fan did not like this song at all, sorry (but a mate also watching last night did, so it's a matter of taste as always I think).

 

[joao]

Tulia have the 2nd most watched performance from last night on youtube. I'm pretty sure the jury destroyed it.

 

[musicfan]

This x1000 times. Unfortunately, except for Germany, I think in many Western countries like the UK there is anti-Polish sentiment and juries do vote Poland down. It's really disgusting and unfair but what can we do

....lol

 

[CypriotGirl]

Well, this ESC-fan did not like this song at all, sorry (but a mate also watching last night did, so it's a matter of taste as always I think).

My conclusion about appealing to mostly ESC fans was because this song, before it was chosen to represent Poland in ESC, took part in NSC (contest of this forum, where ESC fans take part and vote) and won. And that people who are not ESC fans didn't find it appeal in general, with my discussions about last night's semi and saying that my favorite didn't qualify, everybody found it very weird that I liked that song. Of course, I didn't mean every ESC fan likes it (I can see a lot of 0s in the voting here) and that no person who isn't ESC fan would like it.

 

[Stargazer]

I think had they sent something a bit more... melodic (for lack of a better word), I think it would have done better. Their singing style isn't for everyone and combine that with a song like Pali się, it was probably a turn off for a lot of people. That song made their singing sound more "screachy" and ear-grating, for the uninitiated. I personally love the singing technique, but like I said, it certainly isn't for everyone.

A song like this one below would have fit Eurovision much better, in my opinion. And would have been a clear 12 pointer for me. Pali się was underwhelming, unfortunately.

 

[Citelis]

Tulia have the 2nd most watched performance from last night on youtube. I'm pretty sure the jury destroyed it.

Youtube views mean nothing because Poland has by far the bigger population than every other country in SF1. If you see recent comments most of them are in Polish. However i believe too that juries hated it.

 

[Preuss]

I'm devastated that Poland didn't go through - I really wanted them to go through last night and I find their voices and performance so magical and captivating
It's a pity if juries were the reason why they didn't go through

 

[Preuss]

I think I've watched the performance more times than the others combined lol

 

[Milos-BC]

I was hopeful but I am not surprised with this outcome They were really good though and this was such an authentic performance.


The juries probably placed it at the bottom but I am curious to see how the televoters reacted.

 

[mauve]

I was hopeful but I am not surprised with this outcome They were really good though and this was such an authentic performance.


The juries probably placed it at the bottom but I am curious to see how the televoters reacted.

Same thought here. In this case, I really would love to know how the Jury and how the televoters voted. And I am really sad, they didn't make it. this entry was in my top 5.

 

[A-lister]

I think had they sent something a bit more... melodic (for lack of a better word), I think it would have done better. Their singing style isn't for everyone and combine that with a song like Pali się, it was probably a turn off for a lot of people. That song made their singing sound more "screachy" and ear-grating, for the uninitiated. I personally love the singing technique, but like I said, it certainly isn't for everyone.

A song like this one below would have fit Eurovision much better, in my opinion. And would have been a clear 12 pointer for me. Pali się was underwhelming, unfortunately.

Agreed, the problem isn't that it was folk or this type of singing... rather the song was flat.

I said from the get go they needed something with more "oomph" (lack of better words) and with more vocal diversity (maybe some solo vocal parts?) and yeah more "melodic" as you put it...

I am not a particular big fan of this group, I think the subtle rock with folk singing doesn't really work for me, and it doesn't help that their sound is generally flat, I'd rather have folk singing with more real folk music then...

Something like Kapela Warszawa would be much better imo, this is beautiful and soulful:

 

[BorisBubbles]

I actually think Tulia died because of the staging lol. Selfie backdrop + NO change in act (althoguh you already have a very repetitive song to begin with) + the title is "it's on fire" but there's... zero fire on the actual stage = instant semifinal death.

I mean the song isn't for everyone but add in some dynamism and literal fire and it becomes a possible qualifier instead of unwitting SF fodder.

 

[digitaldude]

Only 2 points away from qualifying, sad they were in my top 5.

 

[ApEsc]

I voted for this song in the semifinals, a pity that did not go up. More suited to the final than many countries that came to my mind.

 

[Yoozek]

60/60 from people and jury. 2 points to advance. Close call.