Poland POLAND 2019 - Tulia - Pali się

[A-lister]

Sorry, but not surprised, that Poland didn't make it... as I said from the very beginning when the song was chosen the song was just too flat and needed repeated listens to grow... they did what they could with it live though and great costumes... should have qualified but we saw the hate towards local entries taken even further this year... juries making as usual? we'll see when the full results will get revealed...

 

[Ewigkeit]

Wow absolutely robbed.

 

[opinionsigotem]

I think the red lighting and the backdrop made it look evil and cult-like and offputting for the majority of the voting audience BUT NOT ME I absolutely loved the vibe (but also for the aforementioned reasons I did think it would be a borderline qualifier at best).

 

[GermanBango]

I thought the entire performance really really charming and I am kinda sad that they didn`t make it. Their vocals were good but I can see how people would be annoyed by the entire thing. The song was never really great so it`s a deserved non-qualification after all for me.

Song: 3/12
Performance: 4/12
Vocals: 6/12
Overall 4/12
Semi Ranking: 9 out of 17

 

[BorisBubbles]

Remember kids, do no do selfie backdrops. They catch up on you.

 

[blue00eyes]

Remember kids, do no do selfie backdrops. They catch up on you.

It's not the case. Lights were ugly, a terrible mix of red and brown plus yellow lights. It should be more like Moldova 2009 but it's just my opinion. Vocals weren't that good on TV, a mic was off but it also was predictable.
in Israel honeys
I am not surprised at all. I am wondering what we'll do next.

 

[BorisBubbles]

Send Margaret with "It's A Small World After All" and flop with that too.

 

[Ianp16]

The song was just not strong enough for it to qualify. I think this act with a more uplifting song and staging would have been more interesting.

 

[EurovisionSmile]

Something didn't work for me as they were singing and I could feel this wouldn't make it. I keep enjoying it though and they were one of the best songs of the night and they should have obviously qualified. I wouldn't be surprised if the juries killed this one off.

 

[dogmeat]

I'm pretty sure this was comfortably in televote top 10, but juries destroyed it. If that's the case, there's no point for Poland to continue participating.

 

[musicfan]

For me it was 8th best so deserving of qualifying. Something was off somehow, not sure if it was the arrangement or performance or sound.

 

[simonPL]

I'm pretty sure this was comfortably in televote top 10, but juries destroyed it. If that's the case, there's no point for Poland to continue participating.

Agreed.
I don't know if we are going to leave the contest in 2020. Maybe, together with hosting JESC, TVP will try to do something wow for the last time? Disco-polo? Ballad? My Słowianie 2.0? Personally, I don't care.

I always defended ESC from those comments that this is a plastic, freak show and no one cares about music in here, I believed there will be a place for something different, unique and people will recognise Tulia's performance. But no, they prefered San Marino or run-of-the-mill pop songs. Actually, it could be a nice surprise if jury gave us higher place than viewers, but I don't think it's going to happen. This is insane that Poland is out of top 10 in the semi with only 17 countries.

I had so little interesed in this year's contest and after results it's even lower. In general, I think that ESC is losing its uniqueness, it's not an great event for masses, just a show on night televison with impact on nothing. If this is so much great for fanbase that "daddy Serhat" did it, oh yeah, so I think that general not-so-good thoughts about level of Eurovison are really legitimized.

Well, it's really sad to watch them just right after results.

 

[Mii11]

Honestly, I get why people are upset. However, every year there are acts that have great performances/songs but do not qualify. It's nto a reason to say bad things about contest, every year is unpredictable. Sometime it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Austria had awful result in 2013, with objectively a nice song, and then they won in 2014. Portugal kept failing to qualify but won with Salvador. This is the beauty of Eurovision.

Tulia did their best but unfortunately I think TVP is to blame for the catastrophic results recently. The staging was awful, and this is typical of TVP. Had TVP invested some money into staging and choreography, I think the final outcome would be different both this year and last year. Another thing is that I believe TVP should choose their artist earlier and create a song that is suited for Eurovision. Pali Sie is a great song IMO, but it's not powerful enough for Eurovision. I think Slavic folk could have done well at Eurovision, but unfortunately not in the case of this song.

Let's hope that after November, TVP's management is going to change and hopefully TVP will make a right choice next year.

 

[Preuss]

I'm devastated that they didn't qualify - after Australia they had the performance and song I enjoyed the most actually

 

[Carian]

In any case, regardless of whether they deserved or not to qualify, I must say I just remembered that many people were saying few years ago that Poland always qualifies only cuz of its huge diaspora. But since they didn't qualify two years in a row, I guess that those qualifications weren't only cuz of the Polish diaspora... I wish that all those Polish haters from years ago would read my post now.

 

[Citelis]

The whole thing with diaspora voting about many countries makes no sense anymore. Poland is hated by juries is the sad reality.

 

[Mii11]

The whole thing with diaspora voting about many countries makes no sense anymore. Poland is hated by juries is the sad reality.

This x1000 times. Unfortunately, except for Germany, I think in many Western countries like the UK there is anti-Polish sentiment and juries do vote Poland down. It's really disgusting and unfair but what can we do

 

[simonPL]

Well, I am not saying a bad things about the contest, but let's face it - Eurovison doesn't give us a new music artists for years, not even a one-hit-wonders. What is the last a really huge ESC hit? Heroes? Euphoria? I'm saying that I am more like "its-not-about-the-song" team now, e.g. after this semi the most memorable parts are: shock after San Marino being announced (not even a song that was declaimed btw), bdsm from Iceland, a host and his story about being gay thanks to Dana Internatonal and showing for 2 minutes straight a shirtless photo of Spanish guy to the camera.

I agree about TVP's preparation to the contest which is very poor. I also know that staging was too dark and maybe outfits a little bit weird. But those things shouldn't have such impact to the final voting and at least so called "proffesional" juries should see what's behind those veils. I know, I may take it a little bit personally, but I tottaly get why our entry form last year flopped. This years result is for me just unfair and it's maybe the last straw for me as a viewer or even a fan.

We can write a book "Poland vs juries on ESC", but this is another story and we don't know the results from this year, so maybe the viewers killed us this time
And I am curious how jury from Israel placed our song.

 

[A-lister]

The whole thing with diaspora voting about many countries makes no sense anymore. Poland is hated by juries is the sad reality.

It does make sense in some cases, but sure with juries onboard SOME countries get picked on (regardless of what they send) and Poland is one of their targets apparently.

 

[Mii11]

Well, I am not saying a bad things about the contest, but let's face it - Eurovison doesn't give us a new music artists for years, not even a one-hit-wonders. What is the last a really huge ESC hit? Heroes? Euphoria? I'm saying that I am more like "its-not-about-the-song" team now, e.g. after this semi the most memorable parts are: shock after San Marino being announced (not even a song that was declaimed btw), bdsm from Iceland, a host and his story about being gay thanks to Dana Internatonal and showing for 2 minutes straight a shirtless photo of Spanish guy to the camera.

I agree about TVP's preparation to the contest which is very poor. I also know that staging was too dark and maybe outfits a little bit weird. But those things shouldn't have such impact to the final voting and at least so called "proffesional" juries should see what's behind those veils. I know, I may take it a little bit personally, but I tottaly get why our entry form last year flopped. This years result is for me just unfair and it's maybe the last straw for me as a viewer or even a fan.

We can write a book "Poland vs juries on ESC", but this is another story and we don't know the results from this year, so maybe the viewers killed us this time
And I am curious how jury from Israel placed our song.

Oh ok, sorry, I misunderstood! I get what you mean now, I think that's right, outside of Eurovision bubble most people do not listen to Eurovision artists at all and they do not achieve any international mainstream success. I think part of this doesn't have anything to do with the songs itself, just that we live in times where American music (and culture, really) dominates and we are forced to listen to American songs in English regardless whether we want to. There are not that many European artists that are popular worldwide (or even European-wide), except for some British artists and some notable exceptions. It's sad really but that's the reality we live in.

And I agree with you about disliking some of the things about the contest. I really dislike what Kan did with Euroivision this year. It seems very camp (in an artificial kind of way) and forced and honestly I'm exhausted of the gay host, Dana International and that Eurovision became 'sexualised' in a way that it seems more like a gay show rather than a song contest. I get why equality is important, I'm part of LGBT culture myself, but honestly I have no interest in seeing people pushing tongues down their throats in a music competition.

Yes we can unfortunately. It's really upsetting how juries treat Poland and it's ironic at the same time that a contest that promotes 'equality' would allow this. I honestly think juries should be scrapped.