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[A-lister]

Re: POLAND 2019

Some people on Polish message boards mock Moldova calling it ''disco polo'' but the thing is that ''My Lucky Day'' is better than 99% of disco-polo.

It's absolutely horrenduous stuff. Bulgarian chalga or Romanian manele that are sometimes compared to disco-polo are bafflingly sophisticated and listenable by comparison.

Moldovan entry is more Eurovision mid 00's, Schlager-Dance-Pop mixed with Balkan motives, rather than "Disco-Polo-ish" I'd say

Bulgarian chalga is actually very professional (well not all, but generally), Romanian manele however tend to be pretty amateur-ish...

These two are obviously very cheesy, but still some of the "better" Disco-Polo we can find, with a bit better production and better looking singers (who can also sing live), something like these COULD work because they are having catchy melodies at least....

 

[Iker]

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Moldovan entry is more Eurovision mid 00's, Schlager-Dance-Pop mixed with Balkan motives rather than "Disco-Polo-ish"

Bulgarian chalga is actually very professional (well not all, but generally), Romanian manele however tend to be pretty amateur-ish...

I know, Moldova does not remind me personally disco-polo all that much but I just refered to the opinion of other people on this subject.

 

[A-lister]

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I know, Moldova does not remind me personally disco-polo all that much but I just refered to the opinion of other people on this subject.

I understood Just that I disagree with those people

 

[Iker]

Re: POLAND 2019

Moldovan entry is more Eurovision mid 00's, Schlager-Dance-Pop mixed with Balkan motives, rather than "Disco-Polo-ish" I'd say

Bulgarian chalga is actually very professional (well not all, but generally), Romanian manele however tend to be pretty amateur-ish...

These two are obviously very cheesy, but still some of the "better" Disco-Polo we can find, with a bit better production and better looking singers (who can also sing live), something like these COULD work because they are having catchy melodies at least....

Well these two are among the better disco-polo songs (but I only like Czadoman's one - even the lyrics are not bad here ) but I think it would be extremely unlikely that something like this could ever be considered as our internal choice or to appear in open selection. There were some disco-polo acts that entered our selection but they've never been approved to take part in the final + afaik they were all simply horrible.

 

[Brandt]

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Oh, come on people, it's to early. I know, this is very POSSIBLE way, but let's stay positive! We don't know anything yet. Maybe this flop will change the TVP's direction of selection? Maybe some interesting artists will decide to participate because of this year result which can be very easily beaten?

You need no change. Just be as iconic as 2014 and all is well.

 

[tsegaye]

Re: POLAND 2019

Just internally select Margaret with a pop banger written by the Debs, Arash and Wrethov and they're good to go

 

[Yoozek]

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My heart be-be be-beats for Margaret, so send her, so that i can Thank You Very Much
If she goes to eurovision, i'll go ape in my cabana

Come on. We've just had a retard who can't sing a pop song.

 

[Yoozek]

Re: POLAND 2019

Soo..

Gromee's flop will lead us to no name with a dull ballad for 2019

With which we may finish TOP3 in televoting once again. It's still better to send something fast and don't qualify though, am I right?

 

[EscGeek]

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Come on. We've just had a retard who can't sing a pop song.

K, but look who got 2nd this year

Cause I'm way up and I ain’t comin' down
Keep taking me higher
Ah yeah ah yeah ah yeah, yeah ah yeah ah yeah
'Cause I'm burning up and I ain't coolin' down
Yeah I got the fire
Ah yeah ah yeah ah yeah, yeah ah yeah ah yeah

I’m hotter than fire, water can’t cool me down
Water can’t cool me do-o-own, oh oh, oh oh
I’m dancing like flames and nothing can cool me down
Watch me, I run this to-o-own, oh oh oh
No, water can’t cool me
Da-da-da-da-da-da-down
Da-da-da, no, water can’t cool me

 

[blue00eyes]

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With which we may finish TOP3 in televoting once again. It's still better to send something fast and don't qualify though, am I right?

What the hell? Did you expect Happy Prince or Monika Urlik to achieve top3 televoting?

 

[Yoozek]

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K, but look who got 2nd this year

Cause I'm way up and I ain’t comin' down
Keep taking me higher
Ah yeah ah yeah ah yeah, yeah ah yeah ah yeah
'Cause I'm burning up and I ain't coolin' down
Yeah I got the fire
Ah yeah ah yeah ah yeah, yeah ah yeah ah yeah

I’m hotter than fire, water can’t cool me down
Water can’t cool me do-o-own, oh oh, oh oh
I’m dancing like flames and nothing can cool me down
Watch me, I run this to-o-own, oh oh oh
No, water can’t cool me
Da-da-da-da-da-da-down
Da-da-da, no, water can’t cool me

What have lyrics to do with actual singing of the song? My ears didn't bleed out eveerytime Eleni opened her mouth and actually it's funny you compare her to Margaret.
Eleni is the best example that all the "but"-s of Margaret saying it's hard to sing while dancing and so on, are...wait for it... bullshit. She's neither talented singer nor dancer, only having a moment of career cause kids love her. She was hardly listenable to in Sweden this year due to 90% voice coming out of the playback - meaning she'd literally sound like Yulia on stage this year. Her mic on 10% and backing vocalists' on 120%.
Say what you want about the songs Margaret has, she was never capable of delivering any of them. Which disables the "consider as a singer" button for me.
What's even worse, she can't admit to herself that she sucks as an artist and always has an excuse to why did she flop vocally. Have a look at Zlata, Tayanna, Saara and many many more, and just imagine their faces if Margaret started to sing in front of them. It would look like this:

But well, as for me we can send her in 2019 and waste a year, she'll flop hard but at least the kids will finally shut up with crying "oh, Margaret is our only hope. We have to send her"

 

[blue00eyes]

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What's even worse, she can't admit to herself that she sucks as an artist and always has an excuse to why did she flop vocally.

But well, as for me we can send her in 2019, she'll flop hard but at least the kids will finally shut up with crying "oh, Margaret is our only hope. We have to send her"

This is beyond...
She actually said she's not Beyonce and she admitted it's hard for her to sing it, stop telling lies. Anyway, you can easily find her Melfest performance with vocals only and she is good enough, didn't sound as bad as Yulia and didn't even flop with juries, so another lie from you.
Calling everyone around, that disagree with you, 'kids' is exactly what makes you 'a kid'..

 

[Yoozek]

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What the hell? Did you expect Happy Prince or Monika Urlik to achieve top3 televoting?

Did you expect Szpak to achieve top3 televoting? Cause I did not. He sold that shit of a song. He sold it perfectly with strong vocals. So had Monika, I don't remember Happy Prince tbh. They all would deliver, though. Unlike Lukas who from the start sucked as a singer in this duo.

 

[EscGeek]

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What have lyrics to do with actual singing of the song? My ears didn't bleed out eveerytime Eleni opened her mouth and actually it's funny you compare her to Margaret.
Eleni is the best example that all the "but"-s of Margaret saying it's hard to sing while dancing and so on, are...wait for it... bullshit. She's neither talented singer nor dancer, only having a moment of career cause kids love her. She was hardly listenable to in Sweden this year due to 90% voice coming out of the playback - meaning she'd literally sound like Yulia on stage this year. Her mic on 10% and backing vocalists' on 120%.
Say what you want about the songs Margaret has, she was never capable of delivering any of them. Which disables the "consider as a singer" button for me.
What's even worse, she can't admit to herself that she sucks as an artist and always has an excuse to why did she flop vocally.

But well, as for me we can send her in 2019, she'll flop hard but at least the kids will finally shut up with crying "oh, Margaret is our only hope. We have to send her"

I'm comparing these two songs because some of the authors are the same and the lyrics are very similar.
And her vocals are totally fine if she has a right song
And yes, you absolutely have to send her so kids like me will shut up about it. The sooner, the better

 

[blue00eyes]

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Did you expect Szpak to achieve top3 televoting? Cause I did not. He sold that shit of a song. He sold it perfectly with strong vocals. So had Monika, I don't remember Happy Prince tbh. They all would deliver, though. Unlike Lukas who from the start sucked as a singer in this duo.

I didn't expect it too but I won't naively believe any ballad with strong voice can reach it.. We will flop 9/10 tries using that formula. I would like to add that ballads do better in semis, they somehow sink in finals, so all of our ballads could go through but then 20-26th place awaits.

 

[Yoozek]

Re: POLAND 2019

This is beyond...
She actually said she's not Beyonce and she admitted it's hard for her to sing it, stop telling lies. Anyway, you can easily find her Melfest performance with vocals only and she is good enough, didn't sound as bad as Yulia and didn't even flop with juries, so another lie from you.
Calling everyone around, that disagree with you, 'kids' is exactly what makes you 'a kid'..

Why do you think I called you a kid? I've been to our '16 selections and 99% of her fanbase there were kids. On facebook there are 95% kids commenting on her posts. She has a kid army, just like the way Melovin had a teenagers army in Ukraine this year and the previous one.

And well, if you admit it's hard to sing, why the hell you keep tryin'? Shouldn't you try to learn it first? Go watch Lady Gaga 7 years ago and now. That's what you get if you don't waste your time on tv ads and other shit just to make quick money and instead, you keep improving yourself. My grandfather had a saying that "even a pig can learn how to dance if you teach it hard enough". Margaret is not trying at all, she's not getting better at all thus she's a no-go for me. Just a random pretty doll who can't do anything properly but has an urge to put her ass everywhere she can just to get a bit of attention and applause. And money. End of story.

 

[Yoozek]

Re: POLAND 2019

I didn't expect it too but I won't naively believe any ballad with strong voice can reach it.. We will flop 9/10 tries using that formula. I would like to add that ballads do better in semis, they somehow sink in finals, so all of our ballads could go through but then 20-26th place awaits.

Since 2014 we had
- 3 ballads and 100% success of qualifying with one TOP3 in televote (even the juries didn't put us through we still always qualified cause we had more points from televote)
- 1 folk song and 100% success of qualifying with TOP5 in televote
- 1 uptempo song you were all crazy about and 0% success of qualifying (cause being 10th in televote, worst since 2011 was not enough with the juries chopping us again)

Repeat. We totally do better, and gonna do better with everything that is not a ballad. And well. Bye.

 

[blue00eyes]

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^ as someone said statistics shouldn't be used for predictive purposes. None of songs from KE'18 had better potential than Gromee and I am happy we went with it instead of another ballad that would probably qualify and then be a pee break and bottom 5. We trird something else and it didn't work. Simple as that.

I like Margaret's music, but I am not crazy about her though.. So I felt like 'a kid' as I was her supporter in 2016..
I just can't read comments like she can't sing, she can't dance, she is stupid..
With less demanding song she can do pretty well. Of course she has to work on her vocals but it is exactly what she is doing. We won't see her in the nearest future in KE anyway so let's leave it like this.

 

[A-lister]

Re: POLAND 2019

^ as someone said statistics shouldn't be used for predictive purposes. None of songs from KE'18 had better potential than Gromee and I am happy we went with it instead of another ballad that would probably qualify and then be a pee break and bottom 5. We trird something else and it didn't work. Simple as that.

Actually, a revamped version of Ifi Ude's song would have probably qualified, and might have even ended up top. 10 with the juries, so I have to disagree with that statement.

However the rest would all flop hard, and that included the other ballads that were just shite tbh and If people honestly think such generic dated amateur crap like Monika Urlik or Isabell Otrebus would have qualified, then they're truly mistaken, because such entries would struggle even in ESC 2001.

Margaret for sure would do better than those ballads, in fact based on her performance in MF, I think she might have even qualified to the final with "In My Cabana", she's obviously not a very good live singer, but the overall package presented in MF was better than the trainwreck Gromee/Lukas presented in ESC (I don't refer to the song itself, more the bad vocals combined with one of the worst staged performances of whole ESC'18).

 

[blue00eyes]

Re: POLAND 2019

Actually, a revamped version of Ifi Ude's song would have probably qualified, and might have even ended up top. 10 with the juries, so I have to disagree with that statement.

A revamped version that never existed and never will be, I can't recall any Polish entry that has been revamped (except cutting "My Słowianie" into 3min). I agree it had a lot of potential, but that's it. Ukraine we are not.

I like "Delirium", if Isabell sang it exactly like in the studio version she would've qualified unless she ruined the staging with clothes, awkward "dance" or make-up.