Poland POLAND 2016 - Michał Szpak - Colour of Your Life

[blue00eyes]

Re: POLAND 2016

It's more likely that we will leave ESC freely.
Not this year, but the next maybe, who knows..

 

[Franco]

Re: POLAND 2016

I think it's a media bubble. EBU may rise concerns about this and that, but I don't think they will kick TVP out, considering that they are far from being alone on the issue of governments' control over public broadcasters.

 

[A-lister]

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Who talked about kicking Poland out? I was actually asking how polish people perceive the newest developments in their country regarding the ESC. I'm not talking EU-politics here!. No need to take this as an opportunity to bash EBU, Sweden, the EU or who ever else....

Ehm? Do you not read your own posts in here? Please take a look at the two posts (one including political references by yourself and the other a link regarding the issue posted by another member in here) that I responded to in one single response before making responses like these thank you very much! So if you want to "bash" my response, atleast understand the context of that response first

http://www.escunited.com/threads/13580-POLAND-2016?p=1540821&viewfull=1#post1540821

 

[A-lister]

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I think it's a media bubble. EBU may rise concerns about this and that, but I don't think they will kick TVP out, considering that they are far from being alone on the issue of governments' control over public broadcasters.

There is no such thing as "non-political public broadcasters", it's even silly to think it might exist. Sure the control might be larger in some countries than in others, but the whole concept of "public media = state runned media" is that the governments/and-or parliaments in the countries have influence in one way or another.

 

[Sammy]

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Ehm? Do you not read your own posts in here? Please take a look at the two posts (one including political references by yourself and the other a link regarding the issue posted by another member in here) that I responded to in one single response before making responses like these thank you very much! So if you want to "bash" my response, atleast understand the context of that response first

http://www.escunited.com/threads/13580-POLAND-2016?p=1540821&viewfull=1#post1540821

I specifically said i'm not discussing EU-politics but the influence of polish political changes to the ESC (because that's what I want to discuss here). I even specified my first post in a second one later to be clear what I meant and I spare you to repeat myself on that.
I did not want to "bash" your post (what ever you mean by that) and if you feel offended then I'm sorry. That was not my intention.

But frankly I get a little bit tired of the fact that the slightest political statement launches a completely undifferentiated and overall lamento about the allegedly evil EU, EBU, media, or the "west" as a whole (this applies also the the "east" as a whole) that even sometimes goes into the wild conspiracy theories. (This is of course not all about you)

Why I posted my question was to get an insight perspective from Poland. I did not want to read again, what kind of manipulated country Sweden is. Of course you are free to post this here as often as you want, but as you quoted me when doing so, I felt I needed to tell you this.

But as I said, I do not really want to have this discussion, so I will not take part in it, unless you re-quote me on this matter.

 

[A-lister]

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I specifically said i'm not discussing EU-politics but the influence of polish political changes to the ESC (because that's what I want to discuss here). I even specified my first post in a second one later to be clear what I meant and I spare you to repeat myself on that.
I did not want to "bash" your post (what ever you mean by that) and if you feel offended then I'm sorry. That was not my intention.

But frankly I get a little bit tired of the fact that the slightest political statement launches a completely undifferentiated and overall lamento about the allegedly evil EU, EBU, media, or the "west" as a whole (this applies also the the "east" as a whole) that even sometimes goes into the wild conspiracy theories. (This is of course not all about you)

Why I posted my question was to get an insight perspective from Poland. I did not want to read again, what kind of manipulated country Sweden is. Of course you are free to post this here as often as you want, but as you quoted me when doing so, I felt I needed to tell you this.

But as I said, I do not really want to have this discussion, so I will not take part in it, unless you re-quote me on this matter.

Fair enough, but there were some political references in your post though, and again it wasn't solely your post I responded to (also to the article that was posted by another member).

I happen to live in this country (Poland) and I just reacted (generally) at this whole rumor that even EBU would be dragged into the whole hopla regarding Poland's supposed "lack of democracy" (and in particular I referred to the media laws here). I guess my point was just to point out the absurdity about a potential ban from ESC (if there ever would be one) and pointed out some other examples of why this would be absurd.

My response was never an attack on you, just a sole reaction to this supposed "banning".

 

[Sammy]

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Fair enough, but there were some political references in your post though, and again it wasn't solely your post I responded to (also to the article that was posted by another member).

I happen to live in this country (Poland) and I just reacted (generally) at this whole rumor that even EBU would be dragged into the whole hopla regarding Poland's supposed "lack of democracy" (and in particular I referred to the media laws here). I guess my point was just to point out the absurdity about a potential ban from ESC (if there ever would be one) and pointed out some other examples of why this would be absurd.

My response was never an attack on you, just a sole reaction to this supposed "banning".

understood.

 

[Brandt]

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The signing of a new media law in Poland has led to some media speculation that the Polish broadcaster TVP may no longer compete in the Eurovision Song Contest. The European Broadcasting Union confirmed that TVP remains a member and will participate in Stockholm as planned. Poland first entered the contest in 1994 and have yet to score a victory.
- Eurovision

http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?...on_in_eurovision_song_contest_not_in_question

 

[Yoozek]

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So EBU thought the gossips are important enough to feel the need to make an announcement that it's not true. Weird. I wouldn't care less about the government saying we won't take part. Cause we will. End of story.

 

[A-lister]

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The signing of a new media law in Poland has led to some media speculation that the Polish broadcaster TVP may no longer compete in the Eurovision Song Contest. The European Broadcasting Union confirmed that TVP remains a member and will participate in Stockholm as planned. Poland first entered the contest in 1994 and have yet to score a victory.
- Eurovision

http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?...on_in_eurovision_song_contest_not_in_question

I guess it's good to clear out any question marks, but I agree with [MENTION=12307]Yoozek[/MENTION] that even announcing this is to play the gossipers in their hand.

 

[tuorem]

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I was told that Poland was on the verge of being banned in 2015 due to display of women with non-regulatory breasts on stage back in 2014, was that true?

I WANT A STATEMENT FROM THE EBU ABOUT THAT ONE TOO!

 

[PamSwynford]

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http://www.wirtualnemedia.pl/artyku...ychska-traca-stanowiska-dobrowolski-zwolniony
Justice and Law fired the HOD and two more people who were crucial for Eurovision. :O

 

[PamSwynford]

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How to increase interest for the remix of Cleo's latest single? Just ask Donatan and include Eurovision.
https://web.facebook.com/DonDonatan...9940.190779550945558/1113103385379832/?type=3

 

[realist]

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^^^ By reading his comments to this post you can just tell he was joking (increasing interests) with this post.

Now I believe we can Officially say Cleo is not going this year.

 

[John1]

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I'm thrilled about what will Poland give us this year, they may be qualified 3 times in a row this time ?
That'll be a great proof that they're finally awoken after 2003.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

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Cleo possibly returning??

https://twitter.com/ESCinConcert/status/690652052465278976

 

[Franco]

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I cling to the hope that it may be true, that it's not just a bad joke from Donatan.
Cleo2016: yes please!

 

[tuorem]

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I don't have anything against Cleo, but no, I want a new face. and a GOOD entry first and foremost!

 

[Scooby]

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I cling to the hope that it may be true, that it's not just a bad joke from Donatan.
Cleo2016: yes please!

Her newest song (Zabiorę nas) is great

 

[Scooby]

Re: POLAND 2016

I want another one from Poland