lucian-crusher
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Tohru voted to late in NSC 61 and that night I asked ixic if he can alow Tohru in NSC 62 because they voted and it was to late. When I saw it on the list I tought ixic accepted their entry 
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Well sorry but we can't let people in if they haven't bothered to vote before the deadline. I only said it late on cause I noticed only when I posted that you didn't vote when I checked the wiki, so sorry for being the bad guy but you'll just have to accept it I guess :/
Unless people want to allow you in, in which case I'll just be over-ruled again. Nobody ever seems to listen to me as a mod anyway...
Unless people want to allow you in, in which case I'll just be over-ruled again. Nobody ever seems to listen to me as a mod anyway...
94ayd
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I'm pretty neutral but your last post made me thing about an intereting topic: mods' opinion - how valuable is it and is it taken into consideration... 
that's true that you asked me that, but what did i answer you? "You were here in NSC59 so yes, you can". i was refering to missed editions and had no idea that you missed voting in NSC61. if you just MENTIONED what were you refering to, we would sove the problem.
people, please may you know that when you have 30 unread pm's in inbox, you cannot think about each thing individually. you were not the only one with specific situation, there were at least 10 people with that. and in all that mess somebody unfortunatelly payed badly, it was you. should i be so cruel and refuse all the demands and specific situations?
however, personally i doubt you would be allowed to vote since you failed to votes in previous edition. i'm very sorry.
lucian-crusher
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Jack is allowed to vote in REJU and in the WL!
From my personal perspective, I think Tohru has a good argument. Nations have been allowed back in the past after missing a previous final voting due to explained problems, but at the host's discretion (NSC 36 I believe).
^This is also true.
If not many people have voted, I think it would be possible to allow Tohru re-entry at this stage. However, it is all ultimately up to the host, and if ixic wishes to rigidly follow the rules, he has every right to, with no complaints.
My personal view is that perhaps Tohru's request is permissable in this instance, though I speak as a community member, not a mod
JackBauer said:
^This is also true.
If not many people have voted, I think it would be possible to allow Tohru re-entry at this stage. However, it is all ultimately up to the host, and if ixic wishes to rigidly follow the rules, he has every right to, with no complaints.
My personal view is that perhaps Tohru's request is permissable in this instance, though I speak as a community member, not a mod
it's not a problem to add Tohru at all. i am just little bit pissed off because i had no idea how people are irresponsible while applying the songs, and that is just causeing problems to the hosts (i don't mean on Tohru, but i sam really sick of all changes already). i still think that he had to explain me why he thought that he wasn't sure wether he could take part or not, especially when he saw my argument which had no sense (and it should be obvious that i didn't know what was going on).
It's very easy for people to underestimate how much work the host has to do, but a lot of people have done it before now, so they know that it's stressful to basically deal with the entire NSC community at once, and that you're only human, and one person.
Even though I've never done it before, I have utmost respect for anybody who takes on this job! It's a lot of hard work, which all pays off of course, but during the time it's important that everyone bears in mind the huge scale of the work the host has to deal with The situation with Tohru wasn't anyone's fault, as there was just perhaps some miscommunication, and it's a slightly unusual case as well
Fundamentally though, Tohru is owed a favour from the mishap in NSC 57 (which was also nobody's fault) so it probably makes sense to grant it to them here If anything, it's a perfect redemption, Tohru lost an entry in NSC 57 when they shouldn't have, but now can gain an entry in NSC 62 when they shouldn't have! (although voting problems can still be a valid excuse anyway, but it depends )
Rest assured though ixic, you're doing an excellent job, especially for being so co-operative and patient After all, you didn't know the entire Tohru story, so misunderstandings are perfectly acceptable. I'm sure the NSC community does appreciate the massive amount a host has to do, so thank you! 
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Even though I've never done it before, I have utmost respect for anybody who takes on this job! It's a lot of hard work, which all pays off of course, but during the time it's important that everyone bears in mind the huge scale of the work the host has to deal with
The situation with Tohru wasn't anyone's fault, as there was just perhaps some miscommunication, and it's a slightly unusual case as well Fundamentally though, Tohru is owed a favour from the mishap in NSC 57 (which was also nobody's fault
) so it probably makes sense to grant it to them here If anything, it's a perfect redemption, Tohru lost an entry in NSC 57 when they shouldn't have, but now can gain an entry in NSC 62 when they shouldn't have! (although voting problems can still be a valid excuse anyway, but it depends )Rest assured though ixic, you're doing an excellent job, especially for being so co-operative and patient
After all, you didn't know the entire Tohru story, so misunderstandings are perfectly acceptable. I'm sure the NSC community does appreciate the massive amount a host has to do, so thank you! 1
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dogmeat
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I've been thinking about it lately, when i ecountered some old rules discussion thread... I believe there's an unwritten rule saying that the host has the last word in rules interpretation. It sounds fair, taking into account how much work they have on their heads. Mods are people who have been in the contest for a long time, and thus they're very familiar with the rules and know how things used to be solved in the past, so their opinions are handy, especially for fresh members. but i don't think they formally play any special role... NSC works as direct democracy (with a host being temporary dictator ^^) and has no constant government, i think...I'm pretty neutral but your last post made me thing about an intereting topic: mods' opinion - how valuable is it and is it taken into consideration...
Oh, and i agree with Nati about Tohru's case.
strajker
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I also agree with Nati and i'm sorry Tohru for the NSC 57 thing I had no idea it was other language version...
I had no idea it was other language version...
Fearnavigatr
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Just for the record, the rule of disqualifying non-voters has been broken in the past. Perhaps caused by lack of attention, but also left uncorrected because let's face it, people don't honestly mind. Case in point, Effiland NSC 9.
Oh it's written alright:
However you wish to twist the formality of that paragraph, it's meant to be interpreted as "host decides", no less no more. The mod part is merely advisory.