NORWAY 2011 - Stella Mwangi - Haba Haba

[Canuck]

so happy to see this song won the nf ^.^ probably my favourite song chosen so far!!

 

[Mark-ESC14]

Norway did a good job That they picked her, it's a good song!

 

[bednar1990]

Norway's gonna win for sure... so excited, again ESC in Oslo... 12 points from Poland !!!, love this song HABA HABA !!

 

[JackBauer]

I love the song but i'm a little sad the girl cannont sing better than that.

She has a lot of energy but her singing abilities are not that great.

I think the juries will destroyed her because of that, just like they did with France last year and she may miss top 10

 

[A-lister]

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The juries should get a life though and understand that Eurovision is NOT a copy of Idol. First and foremost it's a search for the best songs.

But sadly you might be right about the juries.

 

[FallenAngelII]

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The juries should get a life though and understand that Eurovision is NOT a copy of Idol. First and foremost it's a search for the best songs.

Gee, I guess that's why they awarded Lena the win last year. Because she's such a phenomenal singer. I also guess that's why they gave Turkey 5th or whatever the year before that, because Hadise is such a stellar live vocalist.

Your vendetta against the juries is quite irrational and not really based on facts. The juries give high marks (and even victories) to artists whose live vocals are lackluster all the time. Vocal ability still plays a role in how they award their points, however. You can't enter Eurovision with horrible vocals and win. But you can enter with so-so vocals and still win. And the juries vote for the song before the vocalists all the time. Lena in 2010, Chanee and N'Evergreen in 2010, Hadise in 2009.

 

[A-lister]

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Good that you could come up with a couple of examples. I don't want to go way too off-topic, so I will not come up with all the contrary examples right now.

When I talk about juries, I judge their whole voting pattern though. The diaspora countries though are ironically getting helped by the juries aswell, dunno why.

I didn't say that the juries always vote for the best voices though, but they tend to often overlook songs in favor for voices.

 

[FallenAngelII]

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I didn't say that the juries always vote for the best voices though, but they tend to often overlook songs in favor for voices.

The fact that they don't always vote for the songs you like doesn't mean they're overlooking "good" songs in favour of vocal ability. Your taste might just not coincidence with those of the juries or even the European music industry at large.

I, for one, agree largely with the juries both years.

 

[A-lister]

The fact that they don't always vote for the songs you like doesn't mean they're overlooking "good" songs in favour of vocal ability. Your taste might just not coincidence with those of the juries or even the European music industry at large.

I, for one, agree largely with the juries both years.

Ehm?

No that's not the fact

Ironic though; because you agree with them, it's all ok then and it's a reflection of whatever you're trying to point out? lol

As for the European music industry: I have a big interest for music and was always a chart nerd. I follow trends throughout Europe, and that is why I know the biggest name in local markets that most people outside never heard of. Nice try though.

 

[FallenAngelII]

Ehm?

No that's not the fact

And your numerous examples of the juries ignoring entries with good songs but bad vocals are?

Ironic though; because you agree with them, it's all ok then and it's a reflection of whatever you're trying to point out? lol

No. I'm saying that taste is subjective.

As for the European music industry: I have a big interest for music and was always a chart nerd. I follow trends throughout Europe, and that is why I know the biggest name in local markets that most people outside never heard of. Nice try though.

Who cares about big names in local markets? The juries are supposed to vote forth songs with international appeal. That's their job. They're not supposed to vote only for what works in, say, Albania. Sure, local marketability is a part of it, but their ultimate job is to vote forth entries with international appeal.

Also, Eurovision and the juries have never been about and never will be about voting forth the entries with the biggest chart topping potential. Because idiotic entries top the charts all the time. The professional juries are supposed to vote forth entries with the best produced songs, with the best lyrics, with the best melody and then with the best vocals as one of the minor concerns (seriously, Lena won last year).

I'm sick and tired of hearing people (or maybe it's just hearing you saying it time and again) that Eurovision should be about voting for the biggest chart toppers to win.

 

[A-lister]

Who cares about big names in local markets? The juries are supposed to vote forth songs with international appeal. That's their job. They're not supposed to vote only for what works in, say, Albania. Sure, local marketability is a part of it, but their ultimate job is to vote forth entries with international appeal.

Also, Eurovision and the juries have never been about and never will be about voting forth the entries with the biggest chart topping potential. Because idiotic entries top the charts all the time. The professional juries are supposed to vote forth entries with the best produced songs, with the best lyrics, with the best melody and then with the best vocals as one of the minor concerns (seriously, Lena won last year).

I'm sick and tired of hearing people (or maybe it's just hearing you saying it time and again) that Eurovision should be about voting for the biggest chart toppers to win.

There's a huge contradiction in your reasoning:

On one hand you say juries should vote for songs with international appeal (although I don't agree that's their main job though), on the other hand you say they should not vote for "hits"...

See the contradiction??

Anyways. Back to topic.

 

[falcon1]

Sounds much better in studio version... unfortunatly Stella has much pitch problems in her live performance. However, if she can give a strong and more pitch correctly performance in Germany and the stage performance will be great then all bets are off.
You at least remember the Haba Haba part of the song hehe...

 

[15anonymous]

i really LIKE it!

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

It's okayy, 5 points .

 

[Mark-ESC14]

I really think that this song has great potential to make it to the top-5!

 

[r3gg13]

The song by itself is already catchy, add her lively performance, it equals a good song. IMO, she doesn't need a great voice to sing well this song since this is sort of like a dancy song, and I think that this sort of song is more centered on the whole performance rather than the quality of her voice. (I know that this is the Eurovision Song Contest, but still, we cannot discredit the importance of the whole performance package in an entry). Also, her voice gives the song the air that it can be sang by everyone watching the show, giving it a grass roots appeal. The lyrics is fair, but it does get repetitive. I still like it though, it makes me want to dance and sing along while she sings it

 

[adnar]

I gave 8 points. 12 points for a song, and 6 points for singing I like this song, but Stella must work on her live singing. I think she will be able to

 

[StellaStai]

Still many good feedbacks. It's so unexpected on this forum.. The mostly about the norwegian songs have been so down charactered and sometimes called sh... songs.. It's really nice to read something good about a song.

Am not sure about this song and the juries, but hope for a place in the final though..



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[paddyirl]

I like it but preferred Hanne even though Hanne isn't great live but this is a good entry from Norway.

 

[VedatiNet]

Dont like this one. I'm almost sure it wont pass the semi.