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Narmina

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Re: No internal selections allowed starting from ESC 2012?

I'm against the ban of internal selections. I prefer when the song and the singer is selected by professional jury. This year we had a public selection process and lost some amazing singers during it. Happy that Eldar & Nigar went to the final. So I hope it won't be truth
 

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Re: No internal selections allowed starting from ESC 2012?

I agree with this rule. The public should have a saying which song to represent the country. I think the turkish fans will like that rule ;)

Yes yes and yes! I'm sick of that dictatorship of TRT (our broadcaster). We want national final. But this is only us. Every country has right to choose the best way for themselves. Internal selections work better for some countries such as UK, France.
 

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Re: No internal selections allowed starting from ESC 2012?

I saw that interview in its original source.
It was taken out of context and this is just a (stupid, I must say) wishful thinking of certain officials.

EBU didn't confirm anything.
 

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Re: No internal selections allowed starting from ESC 2012?

This is stupid, how will Bosnia choose? xD

I remember there was some NF few years ago when, in the one moment, all lines have been dead! :lol:
 

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Apparently, they discuss on escforum.net that there is a video showing Svante nr2 comfirming that... that's the end of several countries (:sk:, :hu:, :sm:, :ad:, :by:,...)
 

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YES! That all i wanted for years... I guess its a rumor, but is worth to believe on my side :D Wish it turns out to be true....
 

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I'm against this rule :( Many countries won't be able to hold a national final :( and thus will withdraw and we'll have an ESC with 30 or less countries :(
 

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Actually almost all the small countries like Albania, Macedonia, Moldova, Baltic countries hold NFs. It'll probably make a difference only for San Marino and will encourage Turkey France and some other internaloholics to give public a chance on their own representatives.. It's wrong if it started to be discussed because of the only internal selection of UK in years, when France, Turkey and some others keep doing it for years. But it seems all positive for my country for me :)
 

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Re: No internal selections allowed starting from ESC 2012?

Imo, certain countries like the UK, France and Belgium make their best choices when they select internally.

xwoo Our scandals will never end :D :D :D

ps. Turkey will be the next Ukraine in terms of fuss around the NFs. I think like Jamala - few days ago she said if Turkey has a NF it will cause neverending scandals every year ))) (also it's nice to see that she follows different NFs).
 

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I'd consent all possible fuss just for having a more democratic way of choosing :D

^Why did she state something like that suddenly BTW? :lol
 

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^ Not suddenly, she was on a talk show dedicated to ESC and she's been asked if Turkey asked her to represent them... she said no but even if she's been asked by TRT she wouldn't said yes ... then she said that TRT decides everything without asking people, if they asked people they would received even bigger scandals than here )))
Then she said that she wants to represent Ukraine only and other stuff...

ps. Believe me, even if it's democratic way you'll still see people who are going to scream that it's bought, it's all set up etc., other performer should have been chosen instead of that wh-re/*************** then you'll get a different attitude of European fans saying that we should boycott Turkey because of such selection (like ordinary bs is not enough) etc etc etc...
 

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Re: No internal selections allowed starting from ESC 2012?

I like to watch NFs, but it wouldn´t be good, when it will be a compulsory.
Many small countries - f.e. San Marino - won´t be able to hold a NF, i think.
 

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Re: No internal selections allowed starting from ESC 2012?

Dont give up EBU. im with you with all my heart :D
 

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Re: No internal selections allowed starting from ESC 2012?

I think a more democratic way in order to choose the ESC singers it's a solutiion.
 

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Re: No internal selections allowed starting from ESC 2012?

Has this actually been confirmed then? I sincerely hope not, stupid decision (with the exception of Turkey who should at least have a NF at some point!)
 

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Re: No internal selections allowed starting from ESC 2012?

How can forcing each country to hold an NF be a democratic solution? Using democracy as an argument is imo very contradicting. I'm against it (if you haven't figured that out already).

Every broadcaster should have their freedom to choose their entry the way they want to, whether it be from dozens and dozens of semi- and quarterfinals or just doing it internally. Anything else is just stupid...EBU can't dictate which way is the right one and definitely shouldn't.

I know this will sound almost blasphemic to most of you, but National Festivals are quite overrated. Very often the best songs are found internally, so I'd actually encourage more countries to do it internally, even my own country.
 

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Re: No internal selections allowed starting from ESC 2012?

I think it´s a good rule considering how broadcasters order songs - like Azerbaijan every year turn to Sweden to have a tailormade winning candidate. Let´s face it - all of Azerbaijan´s Swedish songs wouldn´t even have made it past Melodifestivalen semi finals. In this respect, allowing audiences a say in who´s representing them will maybe counter this somehow and hopefully result in more "national" songs...?
 

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Re: No internal selections allowed starting from ESC 2012?

How can forcing each country to hold an NF be a democratic solution? Using democracy as an argument is imo very contradicting. I'm against it (if you haven't figured that out already).

Every broadcaster should have their freedom to choose their entry the way they want to, whether it be from dozens and dozens of semi- and quarterfinals or just doing it internally. Anything else is just stupid...EBU can't dictate which way is the right one and definitely shouldn't.

I know this will sound almost blasphemic to most of you, but National Festivals are quite overrated. Very often the best songs are found internally, so I'd actually encourage more countries to do it internally, even my own country.

Totally agree. xcheers
 
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