News About Eurovision 2012

[Galandar]

MyHeartIsYours, people in western countries idealize their governments and lifestyle very much. If you look at the rest of the world then you have to see everything you bring forward in a direct connection to the local values and traditions. For instance, that is a non-sense to say that Azerbaijan is abusing gay rights. Yes I agree that there is a long way for us but you also have to admit that it is simply a society namely the people of Azerbaijan who are not that much tolerating gay rights. They don't beat or kill them but they also don't wanna see parades, actual LGBT propoganda, gay marriages etc. Imho it is a bit early for all this, it needs some time... So far that is how it is and you like it or not you have to repsect our values.

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

Do I respect the values of a country? Yes. Do I believe that human rights or gay rights are anything to do with values of a country? No. That is just an excuse used to make people feel better for the prejudice or misery some people have to suffer. It used to be the case put forward in Great Britain 5 decades ago, and it destroys people's lives. Clearly, some gay ppl are prepared to hush up and rather ignore the problem than face up to it, but I absolutely dont agree with that. The United Kingdom is probably the biggest proponent of gay rights around the world nowadays, and you have to accept that our media and people do not find situations of the likes of the man described in the BBC article to be acceptable. It's just the way it is, and thank God for that, because I know that my life is much better than it would be had the situation been any different.
But here, I was not continuing to talk about the article. I was stating that I find it amusing how the United Kingdom is being portrayed as the bad guy here for printing media articles, when I think those criticising would do much better if they took a good look at themselves. I think people are much more concerned about the rights and liberties of people than what the BBC posts on its website .

 

[AlekS]

They don't

The 1st paragraph of the article:

In May Azerbaijan will host the Eurovision Song Contest for the first time. But the excitement among Azeris is not shared by hundreds of people who are being forced out of their homes to make way for a new concert hall in the capital Baku.

Still acting blind?

"former Soviet republic" case. Here's the article:

So host countries see the competition as a major PR opportunity to boost tourism and trade - something particularly appreciated by the former Soviet Republic of Azerbaijan, squeezed into an often overlooked region between Russia, Iran and Turkey

All articles were written by 1 person.
What's the point in using USSR in geographical meaning if it doesn't exist on maps for 21 years?
Do you refer to India as a former colony too? )))

 

[AlekS]

I think people are much more concerned about the rights and liberties of people than what the BBC posts on its website .

I wish people could be concerned if those "articles" are true or not, instead of denying even what's written in them

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

The 1st paragraph of the article:
Still acting blind?

You seem to have glossed over the fact that it is the woman interviewed who said that it was because of Eurovision . And also, where's the proof that it isnt because of Eurovision, I've seen you all saying here that it was a year old, but no proof!

"former Soviet republic" case. Here's the article:

All articles were written by 1 person.
What's the point in using USSR in geographical meaning if it doesn't exist on maps for 21 years?
Do you refer to India as a former colony too? )))

As for that, the Soviet Union is Azerbaijan's history. There shouldnt be so much stigma attatched to it, the BBC make articles for British people to read. If foreign people read it then all well and good, but dont expect them to cater to anybody other than people in the United Kingdom. It's the same when people moan about our Eurovision commentary. As I said, people know where the Soviet Union was, people dont know where Azerbaijan is. So it is an adjective.
As for former colonies, incidentally they were spread all over the world so it's not so good an adjective but yes it is used when referring to countries like the Solomon Islands, Zanzibar, etc. You dont see them kicking off about it do you?

 

[AlekS]

You seem to have glossed over the fact that it is the woman interviewed who said that it was because of Eurovision . And also, where's the proof that it isnt because of Eurovision, I've seen you all saying here that it was a year old, but no proof!

Actually I gave an article from March 2011 but yeah... still going blind.
The 1st paragraph has not ANY single quote of that woman. He wrote it as a fact, if he goes like that basing just on quotes then it's not really professional. All countries have such journalists, anyway.

As for that, the Soviet Union is Azerbaijan's history. There shouldnt be so much stigma attatched to it, the BBC make articles for British people to read. If foreign people read it then all well and good, but dont expect them to cater to anybody other than people in the United Kingdom. It's the same when people moan about our Eurovision commentary. As I said, people know where the Soviet Union was, people dont know where Azerbaijan is. So it is an adjective.
As for former colonies, incidentally they were spread all over the world so it's not so good an adjective but yes it is used when referring to countries like the Solomon Islands, Zanzibar, etc. You dont see them kicking off about it do you?

They had a lil' bit different history, comparing the UK and USSR is pointless ))) Also saying such sentence and knowing that USSR made a real massacre in Baku is disgusting.
The only one who's moaning is your press, tbh when it comes to ESC it always moans
People will never know where Azerbaiajn is if you're gonna use "ex-Soviet Republic" forever (which is a pure political therm nowadays). + You said yourself that it's about today - we (you as well) have a new generation which doesn't even remember USSR

 

[Galandar]

As for former colonies, incidentally they were spread all over the world so it's not so good an adjective but yes it is used when referring to countries like the Solomon Islands, Zanzibar, etc. You dont see them kicking off about it do you?

Comparing UK ex-colonies with ex-Soviet republics is really ridiculous. UK always considered the local population in all those ex-colonies something below humans unlike Russian Empire and USSR where everybody got more or less the same rights. Moreover, UK colonies didn't have actual connetions to the main part of the empire (actual UK in Europe) and always stayed as overseas colonies while in Russian Empire and especially in USSR all the republics were integral parts of the country having borders with each other.

 

[penguinperson]

The 1st paragraph of the article:

Still acting blind?

"former Soviet republic" case. Here's the article:

All articles were written by 1 person.
What's the point in using USSR in geographical meaning if it doesn't exist on maps for 21 years?
Do you refer to India as a former colony too? )))

First is a case linking to issues about roads et al. The BBC don't even mention these events at all. I actually don't think the second article use is negative at all. I think it's saying this is what it is seen as & now they have the opportunity not to be overlooked and become noticed. People don't know where things are as oddly they don't teach places in geography anymore lol.

 

[penguinperson]

Comparing UK ex-colonies with ex-Soviet republics is really ridiculous. UK always considered the local population in all those ex-colonies something below humans unlike Russian Empire and USSR where everybody got more or less the same rights. Moreover, UK colonies didn't have actual connetions to the main part of the empire (actual UK in Europe) and always stayed as overseas colonies while in Russian Empire and especially in USSR all the republics were integral parts of the country having borders with each other.

You can't compare naval and land empires (federations or blocks) even when they existed in the same era. To be fair the UK had closer links to London than any other naval empire compared to other European empires and depending on the sort of colony it was depended on it's relationship to the UK and how integral it was.

 

[Farahim]

Azerbaijan’s Eurovision winners represented in jury in Denmark’s Eurovision national selection

Baku. Ulker Rashidgizi – APA. Azerbaijan’s Eurovision-2011 winners Eldar Gasimov and Nigar Jamal, as well as Aysel Teymurzadeh, who cam third in Eurovision-2009, well known producer and composer Isa Malikov and Dilara Kazimova, who participates in Eurovision national selections, participate in Denmark’s national selection as jury. APA reports quoting the contest’s official website the representatives from the countries which have won the contest over the last 4 years, are represented in the jury. Aleksej Vorobjov, Roger Cicero, Alexander Rybak from Norway, Peter Bergener from Germany and the others are among the jury.

Denmark is determined to get a good result in Baku and in order to do this they have found nine of the most talented artists and songwriters to fight it out for the right to represent their country when the 2012 edition of Dansk Melodi Grand Prix takes place on the 21st of January in the city of Aalborg.

http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=163632

 

[Flav]

(the Azeri media do not want us to take part in 'their contest')

That's really silly of you to say 'their contest' of cause they want you to take part as well as others. Unless it's an excuse not to participate? there're many British people work in Azerbaijan and also BP operates, they are all welcomed. in the summer all holiday resorts are full of British people (those who work there).

 

[Flav]

" I said, people know where the Soviet Union was, people dont know where Azerbaijan is. So it is an adjective"

That's true, those who don't know where Azerbaijan is, also don't know where Australia is, they think its somewhere in Africa. This was on tv not so long ago,

 

[penguinperson]

At the weekend on TV a man admitted not being able to point to America on a map and a woman picked him to go on a date with (dating show
). Words fail me.

 

[Master]

Eurovision 2012 voting rules changed

A new decision was passed concerning the Eurovision 2012 Song Contest, which will be hosted by Azerbaijan in May.

According to APA, the voting will be held in last 15 minutes. In 2010, it was decided that the voting lines should be opened from the very start of the show in order to give viewers the opportunity to vote throughout the show. This year the European Broadcasting Uniion (EBU) decided to restore the old voting system.

The decision came to force. Jury will give points to the participants due to the results of main rehearsals at the Eurovision 2012 Song Contest in Baku as it was in previous years.

 

[Galandar]

 

[croboy82]

Hm, I wonder why they changed it back?

 

[Matt]

According to eurovision.az Baku is going to open an ESC museum soon travelling through 57 years of Eurovision history.

Tentative opening date is February 15 at Baku Business Center

 

[Mickey]

Taking the heat off the BBC.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j5StcyTjpCQ_XbPxlhpOSHyKtLiQ?docId=CNG.bdc86b0030fa82c2321ddee763f718c7.2a1

 

[Galandar]

[h=1]Over 900 people participate in Eurovision promo castings[/h]


http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?...ople_participate_in_eurovision_promo_castings

 

[Pietclock]

Some EBU members expressed their concern over the recent media reports about the politicization of the contest. Some members said the following with regard to the BBC:
“BBC is carrying out large campaign against the Azerbaijani government and Eurovision Song Contest that will be held in Baku. BBC’s action is damaging Eurovision.”

so I want names. Which EBU members did criticize the BBC? And why would the BBC want to damage the ESC ?

Well I say this, because someone twittered this TV report - made by German TV (the same channel which broadcasts the ESC):

http://mediathek.daserste.de/sendun...serbaidschan-wenige-monate-vor-dem-eurovision
go to 1:13 to see what's happening there. There is a dark shadow above this year's contest to be honest.

Baku, Azerbaijan. The city governor has invited international media and high society in a palace on the outskirts. It is the solemn prelude to the euro vision song contest. But also part of the preparations: In the center of the house of the human rights activist Leyla Yunus is demolished. Unannounced and illegal. From here, fighting against corruption and building owner Yunus tyranny. She is abroad, as the bulldozers come - ten hours after the New York Times reported on their work critical of the government. There was no compensation for the house is not there. With her ​​team she is now temporarily in a small apartment come across. "I want you to know that the 'Euro Vision Song Contest' is not something that brings joy to the people of Azerbaijan," says Yunus. "He has brought new tragedies What is the vision for a concert are € -.? In a country where there is torture, political prisoners are no free elections, no freedom, no freedom, nothing!"

http://www.daserste.de/ttt/beitrag_dyn~uid,kc99mgc3c1n5edgh~cm.asp
Just to show you, it's not just the BBC ...