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NETHERLANDS 2010 - Sieneke - Ik ben verliefd, shalalie

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Re: NEDERLAND - The Netherlands 2010 - Ik ben verliefd, shalalie

AlekS said:
imho, she would finished like Soraya if the jurues were introduced in 2006.
And yes, it's also because of her song so no need in blaming diaspora. We expected something like her covers Desenchantee and Libertine but instead we got Je t'adore and it was a major turn off. If Desenchantee was on every radio here, Je t'adore totally flopped. Malta managed to come 2nd around that time (in 2005) and Ukraine came 19th (or 20th cuz we had same points w/ Sweden), where was "almighty" diaspora? Nobody prohibited Belgium to come up with a song that would be liked by majority. Kate could qualify then (from 9th or 10th position) but she wouldn't have finished higher than bottom 5, imo. Every time we finish high people find lame excuses and blame diaspora & neighbours, every time we finish lower people suddenly 4get about it. Diaspora is just one of many factors that control Eurovision and it doesn't work all the time. End of story.
Kate had fans all over Europe but even some Eastern countries voted for her and some Western gave her zeros.
As for the juries... they aren't there just to help certain countries no matter what (just like not every neighbours and diaspora btw). Find a good performance that will be liked by majority and get your high place if you care about this horse race and places so much.

As for Dutch 2010 entry... the song doesn't even stand close to Je t'adore, Kate was better, imo... lol, I'm not even talking about the level of recent ESC winners ... go figure future Dutch result. Actually the juries can bomb Dutch performance even more.

as for the Dutch local jury... all of them choose from what they have, uhm, and they don't have much this year.
Also I don't get how 1 person can represent the whole Eastern Europe :| "expert" :lol: Eastern Europe is not the only one area that votes on ESC and decides the winner so I don't like that they pay such attention to my area :evil: I'd changed her on some producer or composer cuz this is what they need right now ;)
I agree that they should better find money on improving the song (or making the new one) and developing conception of the ESC performance.


You are totally true Aleks. Another big reason why she didn't make it was that her choreography was totally changed! Many people - also here in Belgium- did not like this. I think many European wanted to see the "kniezwengel" (I don't know how to translate this but I think knee swing) but she didn't to it at all and I also thought that the choreo was a bit messy with those dancers and those microphones. I think if she used the same choreo as in Belgian NF she would get into the final.

And I really do not understand what an expert of those countries can say if a song is good or not. That expert may have a totally different opinion that the people in east european countries.
 

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Re: NEDERLAND - The Netherlands 2010 - Ik ben verliefd, shalalie

Apart from anything, the foreign juries in 2006 were Poland, Israel and Germany, and the Polish one even gave their 12 to Belle Perez so there goes that :lol:
 

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Re: NEDERLAND - The Netherlands 2010 - Ik ben verliefd, shalalie

Je t'adore is not that amazing. It would personally make my top 10 (10th, LOL! :lol: ). And yeah, the performance was rather weak. :| I still haven't heard anything of Netherlands 2010. :lol:
 

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And furthermore, don't forget that "Je T'adore" didn't even win the Belgian televote the first time it was presented in a quarterfinal, it was only after the juries brainwashed everyone that it managed to do that in the final :lol:
 

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Re: NEDERLAND - The Netherlands 2010 - Ik ben verliefd, shalalie

OMG is this how Loekz will look like tomorrow? :D so colourful :mrgreen: Its like a mix of the 80's and carnival LOL

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Misterb said:
OMG is this how Loekz will look like tomorrow? :D so colourful :mrgreen: Its like a mix of the 80's and carnival LOL

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If they win you'll have to hope that Denmark won't send Sukkerchok! :lol:

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Re: NEDERLAND - The Netherlands 2010 - Ik ben verliefd, shalalie

bitch :twisted: :lol: I hope they send Bryan Rice and i think they will, he's good :cool:

Not sure if this works but you can hear a little preview of Sieneke's version here:
http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=10614040

forward to 22:13 !
 

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Re: NEDERLAND - The Netherlands 2010 - Ik ben verliefd, shalalie

Not sure if that has been posted before but just in case

[youtube:34rc2gj3]ShNBrsWAAHU[/youtube:34rc2gj3]

this is definitely better than the original but at the same time......it's still a bad song!
 

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Re: NEDERLAND - The Netherlands 2010 - Ik ben verliefd, shalalie

And the Loekz version:

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evilperson20 said:
And the Loekz version:

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omg, this is even worse than the orginal version I think
 

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Re: NEDERLAND - The Netherlands 2010 - Ik ben verliefd, shalalie

Loekz version is :?
 

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Re: NEDERLAND - The Netherlands 2010 - Ik ben verliefd, shalalie

LOL i love the Loekz version, its a mix of Dutch music and eastern, nice pop version :) Though i want to wait untill tonight, lets see if they can give us a strong performance!

Oh and we're so going to qualify LOLOL!! Second semi, second part thank you :mrgreen:
 

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Re: NEDERLAND - The Netherlands 2010 - Ik ben verliefd, shalalie

AAAAAAAAAAAA im so f*cking nervous LOL i know its crap but its gonna be hilarious! In for a good laugh? visit www.songfestival.nl for a live stream, starts around 21:10..or eurovision.tv :D
 

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Re: NEDERLAND - The Netherlands 2010 - Ik ben verliefd, shalalie

Sieneke: pff nothing real special for me, I hope she won't win tonight;)
 

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Re: NEDERLAND - The Netherlands 2010 - Ik ben verliefd, shalalie

Vinzzent: better than sieneke, but I don't think it would be good enough to get high in Oslo
 

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Re: NEDERLAND - The Netherlands 2010 - Ik ben verliefd, shalalie

Vinzzent looks 38, Johnny Logan was very polite
 
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