Sim
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Re: NEDERLAND - The Netherlands 2010 - Ik ben verliefd, shalalie
You are totally true Aleks. Another big reason why she didn't make it was that her choreography was totally changed! Many people - also here in Belgium- did not like this. I think many European wanted to see the "kniezwengel" (I don't know how to translate this but I think knee swing) but she didn't to it at all and I also thought that the choreo was a bit messy with those dancers and those microphones. I think if she used the same choreo as in Belgian NF she would get into the final.
And I really do not understand what an expert of those countries can say if a song is good or not. That expert may have a totally different opinion that the people in east european countries.
AlekS said:imho, she would finished like Soraya if the jurues were introduced in 2006.
And yes, it's also because of her song so no need in blaming diaspora. We expected something like her covers Desenchantee and Libertine but instead we got Je t'adore and it was a major turn off. If Desenchantee was on every radio here, Je t'adore totally flopped. Malta managed to come 2nd around that time (in 2005) and Ukraine came 19th (or 20th cuz we had same points w/ Sweden), where was "almighty" diaspora? Nobody prohibited Belgium to come up with a song that would be liked by majority. Kate could qualify then (from 9th or 10th position) but she wouldn't have finished higher than bottom 5, imo. Every time we finish high people find lame excuses and blame diaspora & neighbours, every time we finish lower people suddenly 4get about it. Diaspora is just one of many factors that control Eurovision and it doesn't work all the time. End of story.
Kate had fans all over Europe but even some Eastern countries voted for her and some Western gave her zeros.
As for the juries... they aren't there just to help certain countries no matter what (just like not every neighbours and diaspora btw). Find a good performance that will be liked by majority and get your high place if you care about this horse race and places so much.
As for Dutch 2010 entry... the song doesn't even stand close to Je t'adore, Kate was better, imo... lol, I'm not even talking about the level of recent ESC winners ... go figure future Dutch result. Actually the juries can bomb Dutch performance even more.
as for the Dutch local jury... all of them choose from what they have, uhm, and they don't have much this year.
Also I don't get how 1 person can represent the whole Eastern Europe :| "expert" Eastern Europe is not the only one area that votes on ESC and decides the winner so I don't like that they pay such attention to my area :evil: I'd changed her on some producer or composer cuz this is what they need right now
I agree that they should better find money on improving the song (or making the new one) and developing conception of the ESC performance.
You are totally true Aleks. Another big reason why she didn't make it was that her choreography was totally changed! Many people - also here in Belgium- did not like this. I think many European wanted to see the "kniezwengel" (I don't know how to translate this but I think knee swing) but she didn't to it at all and I also thought that the choreo was a bit messy with those dancers and those microphones. I think if she used the same choreo as in Belgian NF she would get into the final.
And I really do not understand what an expert of those countries can say if a song is good or not. That expert may have a totally different opinion that the people in east european countries.