Moldova MOLDOVA 2021 - Natalia Gordienko - Sugar

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I can't explain it but there's something going on
A crazy energy inside of me
First just a tingle, then it turned into a burn
Like fire in my blood

And now I hear my body talk, talk, talk
A taste is all, all I need
And I'm about to climb the walls
No way I'll be alone tonight

Come over, come over
I'm over doing without you
Come over, come over
Hey lover, give me some sugar

Got me addicted, so you can't take it away
Get me all satisfied

And now I hear my body talk, talk, talk
A taste is all, all I need
And I'm about to climb the walls
No way I'll be alone tonight

Come over, come over
I'm over doing without you
Come over, come over
Hey lover, give me some sugar

Just took a little kiss to show how I was missing out
Compared to you no other [?] thing to brag about
Your lips are hot and sweet, I feel it to my knees
Now I want only one sugar, sugar on my tongue
I need your kisses baby, gotta keep 'em coming
Oh-oh, oh-oh, oh-oh

Sugar​

 

[NikolaiMoller]

She got that left side finish amazing

 

[A-lister]

And listen guys, the majority of people with these conspiracy theories about Moldova's placing are from the Western countries, which I take as proof how disconnected and unfamiliar you are with the small/big local musical markets. You simply cannot understand that there are different local musical markets that exist parallel to the world's music market. Ex-YU is a huge market, where you can succeed singing in Croatian/Serbian and where singers succeed across national borders and can generate votes in all these countries based on their fame and not the quality of their songs. Allow me to give you an example: Croatian singer Severina, I think she represented country in 2005 in Athens, had a really horrible song MOJA ŠTIKLA. She got twelve 12 point from Slovenia, cuz she is a celebrity on a par with Adele, Madonna etc. here. In Slovenia everyone knows who is Severina, what she sings etc. She got those 12 points cuz of her fame in Slovenia, not because her song was good in 2005. The same is with Kirkorov - he is a family name in all ex-USSR countries. When I visited Israel, Israeli Russians were telling me about his songs and what a great singer he is. Kirkorkov generates respect cuz he is part of the Russian-speaking music market for decades and the man can actually sing, even if you dislike him. He is a big star even if you hate him. So, Moldova naturally generated attention in ex-USSR countries before ESC only because of Kirkorov, she got a lot of exposure and Natalia is known as a singer in her own right in ex-USSR. So, to sum it up for you - if you don't live in a country where you have these parallel music markets that exist across national borders in different languages than English, you will never understand why some "lousy" songs get attention and points. I cannot teach you this, you should've lived in such a country to see it for youselves, guys. That's it, here is like 90% of the answer to your shock and disgust how and why Moldova ended 13th in ESC yesterday.

You're right about the integrated market thing, but if you think Kirkorov didn't buy off some jurors then it's delusion.

Also don't come for Severina, "Moja Stikla" is one of the best ESC entries of all time!

And no, Natalia isn't a big name in the ex-USSR market, so that's not true.

I don't want to dig much deeper into the cheating aspect because it's already been discussed, but I am actually surprised EBU allowed the faking of that long tone, Natalia didn't sing that.

 

[Trece]

You're right about the integrated market thing, but if you think Kirkorov didn't buy off some jurors then it's delusion.

Also don't come for Severina, "Moja Stikla" is one of the best ESC entries of all time!

And no, Natalia isn't a big name in the ex-USSR market, so that's not true.

I don't want to dig much deeper into the cheating aspect because it's already been discussed, but I am actually surprised EBU allowed the faking of that long tone, Natalia didn't sing that.

She is actually no name

 

[A-lister]

She is actually no name

I know, I wanted to be diplomatic, after all after this year's ESC she's iconic with that longest playback note and Kirkorov's shady back-door deals

 

[Trece]

I know, I wanted to be diplomatic, after all after this year's ESC she's iconic with that longest playback note and Kirkorov's shady back-door deals

Was it play back?

 

[A-lister]

Was it play back?

I mean, if it was pre-recorded vocals and EBU allowed that then I dunno what to say

But yeah I'm pretty certain Natalia didn't sing that, maybe a backing vocalist did.

 

[innou]

Was it play back?

That big note has a name behind it! Victoria Halkitis. Also known for singing Aphrodisiac on its entirety and saving Eleftheria Eleftheriou from being a total trainwreck. She is an invisible hero!

 

[empo21]

She got that left side finish amazing

the other pop girls could neva

ps might be late but im changing my score from to

 

[Carian]

You're right about the integrated market thing, but if you think Kirkorov didn't buy off some jurors then it's delusion.

Also don't come for Severina, "Moja Stikla" is one of the best ESC entries of all time!

And no, Natalia isn't a big name in the ex-USSR market, so that's not true.

I don't want to dig much deeper into the cheating aspect because it's already been discussed, but I am actually surprised EBU allowed the faking of that long tone, Natalia didn't sing that.

He did not buy jury votes, but certainly jury members expect favors in return in their future career.

Now, as for Severina and Moja štikla, please, do not go there. That song is plain stupid and has little meaning. As someone who has grown up with Severina's music, before I was even aware of Abba's existence, I feel pretty upset when someone is lecturing me about Severina's repertoire and if Moja štikla was a good song or not. A-lister, I can quote you at least 20 Severina's hits from top of my head, sing along to majority of them, and if you want to know what is a quality song in her decades long career, I suggest you to start with something like Virujen u te. That's quality and that's Severina I adore and respect. Moja štikla was just silly, meaningless song.

I never claimed that Natalia is a star in ex-USSR, but an artist of whom ex-USSR countries have heard of.

And as for that long note, I actually agree with you on this one. It is very likely that she did not sing that. The colour of her voice is not the same.

 

[A-lister]

He did not buy jury votes, but certainly jury members expect favors in return in their future career.

Now, as for Severina and Moja štikla, please, do not go there. That song is plain stupid and has little meaning. As someone who has grown up with Severina's music, before I was even aware of Abba's existence, I feel pretty upset when someone is lecturing me about Severina's repertoire and if Moja štikla was a good song or not. A-lister, I can quote you at least 20 Severina's hits from top of my head, sing along to majority of them, and if you want to know what is a quality song in her decades long career, I suggest you to start with something like Virujen u te. That's quality and that's Severina I adore and respect. Moja štikla was just silly, meaningless song.

I never claimed that Natalia is a star in ex-USSR, but an artist of whom ex-USSR countries have heard of.

And as for that long note, I actually agree with you on this one. It is very likely that she did not sing that. The colour of her voice is not the same.

Buying or not, some sort of shady deals went on and he should be called out for it!

Ehm, it's called different taste and not "lecturing", you're actually the one trying to lecture here. I have the right to my own taste thank you very much and that song IS one of my fav ESC entries and will remain so regardless of your opinions on it so there's that

Not really, she's pretty much a no name in ex-USSR countries...

Yeah, at least we can agree on that part.

 

[Etanna]

And listen guys, the majority of people with these conspiracy theories about Moldova's placing are from the Western countries, which I take as proof how disconnected and unfamiliar you are with the small/big local musical markets. You simply cannot understand that there are different local musical markets that exist parallel to the world's music market. Ex-YU is a huge market, where you can succeed singing in Croatian/Serbian and where singers succeed across national borders and can generate votes in all these countries based on their fame and not the quality of their songs. Allow me to give you an example: Croatian singer Severina, I think she represented country in 2005 in Athens, had a really horrible song MOJA ŠTIKLA. She got twelve 12 point from Slovenia, cuz she is a celebrity on a par with Adele, Madonna etc. here. In Slovenia everyone knows who is Severina, what she sings etc. She got those 12 points cuz of her fame in Slovenia, not because her song was good in 2005. The same is with Kirkorov - he is a family name in all ex-USSR countries. When I visited Israel, Israeli Russians were telling me about his songs and what a great singer he is. Kirkorkov generates respect cuz he is part of the Russian-speaking music market for decades and the man can actually sing, even if you dislike him. He is a big star even if you hate him. So, Moldova naturally generated attention in ex-USSR countries before ESC only because of Kirkorov, she got a lot of exposure and Natalia is known as a singer in her own right in ex-USSR. So, to sum it up for you - if you don't live in a country where you have these parallel music markets that exist across national borders in different languages than English, you will never understand why some "lousy" songs get attention and points. I cannot teach you this, you should've lived in such a country to see it for youselves, guys. That's it, here is like 90% of the answer to your shock and disgust how and why Moldova ended 13th in ESC yesterday.

Neither Natalia nor Kirkorov are well-known in Czechia and we do not feel strong affinity with ex-USSR countries yet she got 12 points from us. And this sort of music isn't popular here either. I'm quite annoyed by it as it seems rigged, there have been suspicions of that happening before. Either that or the ex-USSR minority who live here are extremely passionate about Euroivison.

 

[Trece]

Neither Natalia nor Kirkorov are well-known in Czechia and we do not feel strong affinity with ex-USSR countries yet she got 12 points from us. And this sort of music isn't popular here either. I'm quite annoyed by it as it seems rigged, there have been suspicions of that happening before. Either that or the ex-USSR minority who live here are extremely passionate about Euroivison.

Why would minority vote for Moldova while in Russia Moldova is only 8th in televoting and from Ukraine got 0? İts fishy af, its easy to rig small countries votings

 

[Ianp16]

I know it's been mentioned repeatedly but the Moldova getting EIGHT sets of twelve televote points in the semi final is so so weird. Especially since the country with the next largest amount of 12 points from televote is Iceland with just THREE. WTF?????? So weird.

Edit: I even voted for Moldova out of sympathy as I was completely convinced she wouldn't qualify

 

[Sammy]

She is actually no name

And very deservedly!
But she gets my trophy for the most unnatural fake smile 2021 („smile or you‘re dead“)

 

[DenizESC]

Tbh this was a huge grower to me on the GF, I wish she bought the whole thing while at it

 

[A-lister]

Tbh this was a huge grower to me on the GF, I wish she bought the whole thing while at it

I think she didn't buy anything, Kirkorov on the other hand...

I wonder if Natalia even realizes this or if she's clueless about the back-door politics?

I do cross my fingers that she didn't have to do something else to get produced by Kirkorov... like please Natalia promise us you didn't sink to such lows

 

[Gera11]

Portugal, France, San Marino (inspired by Italy, not a real Televote) looks like Romanian diaspora votes.

We don't have a big diaspora in Portugal and I don't think we have that much power to influence the televote lol. Spain for example, where there are more Romanians (and Moldavians) gave Natalia a big fat 0 in the finals and 3 in semi-final. Italy also only 2p for Natalia in televote.

We barely supported our own entry through diaspora and you think we had the force to support Natalia

 

[4815162342]

Damn.. those televoting results are shady as hell. I want to point out that Moldova had the worst twitter stats during the semifinals out of all 20 qualifiers.

8x12 points is insane. I went through all semis since 2014 and the only acts that topped this were Salvador and Kristian Kostov (both 9x). Jamala or Sergey in 2016 had 'only' 6x.

Any song that received more than 3x12 points from televoters (when also not from diaspora) got points from every single country (Azerbaijan <-> Armenia the only exception).
Moldova on the other hand was dead last in three countries in the semi's televote.

 

[Slabsson79]

Neither Natalia nor Kirkorov are well-known in Czechia and we do not feel strong affinity with ex-USSR countries yet she got 12 points from us. And this sort of music isn't popular here either. I'm quite annoyed by it as it seems rigged, there have been suspicions of that happening before. Either that or the ex-USSR minority who live here are extremely passionate about Euroivison.

But there are a lot of Gastarbeiters in Czechia, e.g. from the Ukraine. But a vote for the Ukraine would have been natural, given the high quality of the song (subjective, I know)...even I have voted for Ukraine several times. I would never get the idea of voting for Moldova, and I guess the average Czech spectator would neither...

 

[VirginiaVision]

Wanted to share an interesting observation my roommate made about this song:

As heard in a lot of Eastern European pop music, the vocals of this song are in dissonance rather than harmony. Dissonance and harmony are opposites; a dissonant vocal line "clashes" with the main vocal line (forgive me for the very simplified technical explanation). The fact that Natalia's backing vocals were in dissonance may have caused her difficulty in finding and maintaining the melody (the main line).

To be clear, I don't think this magically explains Natalia's sub-par vocal performance. I do, however, think it could've played a role.